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Ivytalk wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/22/man ... ssion=true
And you’re loving it.

Because Trump.
I'm ok with it.

As a first-world nation, we should continue to contract away from manufacturing and focus on higher-paying jobs in the services industries. Let third-world nations and robots do the dirty stuff.

And if some Americans can't keep up with the times, well that's capitalism. :coffee:

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And you’re loving it.

Because Trump.
I'm ok with it.

As a first-world nation, we should continue to contract away from manufacturing and focus on higher-paying jobs in the services industries. Let third-world nations and robots do the dirty stuff.

And if some Americans can't keep up with the times, well that's capitalism. :coffee:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Higher paying service industries? Like hooking and waitressing?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I'm ok with it.

As a first-world nation, we should continue to contract away from manufacturing and focus on higher-paying jobs in the services industries. Let third-world nations and robots do the dirty stuff.

And if some Americans can't keep up with the times, well that's capitalism. :coffee:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Higher paying service industries? Like hooking and waitressing?
No, like education and healthcare and technology and energy and finance and consulting and hospitality and almost everything that has to do with providing a service.

You know, about 80% of our jobs and annual GDP. :?

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∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Higher paying service industries? Like hooking and waitressing?
No, like education and healthcare and technology and energy and finance and consulting and hospitality and almost everything that has to do with providing a service.

You know, about 80% of our jobs and annual GDP. :?
Education? Seriously? Do you KNOW what 90% of people in education make?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I'm ok with it.

As a first-world nation, we should continue to contract away from manufacturing and focus on higher-paying jobs in the services industries. Let third-world nations and robots do the dirty stuff.

And if some Americans can't keep up with the times, well that's capitalism. :coffee:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Higher paying service industries? Like hooking and waitressing?
It's the Leftsist plan, that way more folks will be dependent on the gubmint and thus vote for more free shit. :coffee:

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mainejeff2 wrote:
SDHornet wrote: It's the Leftsist plan, that way more folks will be dependent on the gubmint and thus vote for more free shit. :coffee:
Hey....gubmint subsidies are the only thing keeping many Red State populations stable. Without bailouts & entitlements to agriculture and energy industries......America's bread basket and oil states would be very different places. :thumb:
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Ivytalk wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/22/man ... ssion=true
And you’re loving it.

Because Trump.
The point is that the idea that Trump improved the economy is nonsense. Whether it's good or bad as a matter for the country isn't the point. It's a bit of information that will at least HOPEFULLY make SOME people understand that there hasn't been a positive change in the direction of the Economy due to Trump being elected.

The idea that we need to keep Trump for reasons related to the Economy needs to be disabused. Anything that does that is a positive.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And you’re loving it.

Because Trump.
The point is that the idea that Trump improved the economy is nonsense. Whether it's good or bad as a matter for the country isn't the point. It's a bit of information that will at least HOPEFULLY make SOME people understand that there hasn't been a positive change in the direction of the Economy due to Trump being elected.

The idea that we need to keep Trump for reasons related to the Economy needs to be disabused. Anything that does that is a positive.
You’re right. I mean, apparently every OTHER president in our lifetimes just chose NOT to break 50, 60 and 70 year-old economic records. ANYBODY could have done it. Hell, Obama could have done it...just didn’t want to, right? :rofl: :rofl:
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Good. Maybe learn to tell woke mobs to go to hell instead of bending over backwards to them and then this won't work.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
The point is that the idea that Trump improved the economy is nonsense. Whether it's good or bad as a matter for the country isn't the point. It's a bit of information that will at least HOPEFULLY make SOME people understand that there hasn't been a positive change in the direction of the Economy due to Trump being elected.

The idea that we need to keep Trump for reasons related to the Economy needs to be disabused. Anything that does that is a positive.
You’re right. I mean, apparently every OTHER president in our lifetimes just chose NOT to break 50, 60 and 70 year-old economic records. ANYBODY could have done it. Hell, Obama could have done it...just didn’t want to, right? :rofl: :rofl:
AZ, John is going to ignore that because the data shows that Trump just maintained the good thing that Obama started. Trump can't get credit for keeping it going in the face of headwinds and for breaking those records, the credit belongs to Obama.

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Who let JSO on CNN? Just when the Leftards couldn't get any more "leftard", this happens:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Somebody needs to re-take a HS world history class again. :ohno:

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mainejeff2 wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Who let JSO on CNN? Just when the Leftards couldn't get any more "leftard", this happens:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Somebody needs to re-take a HS world history class again. :ohno:
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So...

A Trump - Tocqueville comparison was inevitable, right?

https://www.city-journal.org/democracy- ... ocqueville

I think there’s some truths in there for everybody


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CID1990 wrote:So...

A Trump - Tocqueville comparison was inevitable, right?

https://www.city-journal.org/democracy- ... ocqueville

I think there’s some truths in there for everybody


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The left misses the point that gubment doesn't create anything and is funded by taking stuff from those who do. Don't get me wrong, we need gubment to provide essential services, protect our interests, to referee, provide a basic safety net and a safe environment where producers can produce and all can pursue their dreams and be held accountable equally according to their gifts.

Manufacturing is a big deal. If you don't think manufacturing jobs can pay well, examine Boeing's annual report. Manufacturing by and large is not negatively impacted by raising the minimum wage as service industries are.

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mainejeff2 wrote:
LeadBolt wrote:.....and all can pursue their dreams and be held accountable equally according to their gifts.
How can everyone be held accountable "equally" if you are basing it on their "gifts" (whatever that means)?
The fact that you don't understand that is the problem.

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LeadBolt wrote:
mainejeff2 wrote:
How can everyone be held accountable "equally" if you are basing it on their "gifts" (whatever that means)?
The fact that you don't understand that is the problem.
What a bullshit answer. Be a man and answer the question.


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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So...

A Trump - Tocqueville comparison was inevitable, right?

https://www.city-journal.org/democracy- ... ocqueville

I think there’s some truths in there for everybody


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The same could be said of Paul Besch at Spokane Falls Community College (the Oxford of Palouse high schools with ash trays) :mrgreen:
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CID1990 wrote:So...

A Trump - Tocqueville comparison was inevitable, right?

https://www.city-journal.org/democracy- ... ocqueville

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Holy shit is that a tremendous read. Thanks for posting it CID!

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ps Don't tell Citadelgrad that we have a democracy. :lol:
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Ibanez wrote:
LeadBolt wrote:
The fact that you don't understand that is the problem.
What a bullshit answer. Be a man and answer the question.


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Ok Jack___, we are all created equal under the law, but we are not all created equal in terms of talents, interests, drive, resources, physical ability, etc.

Gubment is to provide an atmosphere where we are all free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as each individual sees fit for themselves. It is not the job of gubment to guarantee equal outcome for all.

The gubment should guarantee equal rights for all people, not special rights for any particular group in trying to tip the scales in one direction or another..

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Ibanez wrote: What a bullshit answer. Be a man and answer the question.


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Ok Jack___, we are all created equal under the law, but we are not all created equal in terms of talents, interests, drive, resources, physical ability, etc.

Gubment is to provide an atmosphere where we are all free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as each individual sees fit for themselves. It is not the job of gubment to guarantee equal outcome for all.

The gubment should guarantee equal rights for all people, not special rights for any particular group in trying to tip the scales in one direction or another..
Good to see you're backing down from your opening line:
"The left misses the point that gubment doesn't create anything and is funded by taking stuff from those who do."
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kalm wrote:
LeadBolt wrote:
Ok Jack___, we are all created equal under the law, but we are not all created equal in terms of talents, interests, drive, resources, physical ability, etc.

Gubment is to provide an atmosphere where we are all free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as each individual sees fit for themselves. It is not the job of gubment to guarantee equal outcome for all.

The gubment should guarantee equal rights for all people, not special rights for any particular group in trying to tip the scales in one direction or another..
Good to see you're backing down from your opening line:
"The left misses the point that gubment doesn't create anything and is funded by taking stuff from those who do."
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As usual, we seem to have a bit of a difference in interpretation.

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LeadBolt wrote:
kalm wrote:
Good to see you're backing down from your opening line:



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As usual, we seem to have a bit of a difference in interpretation.
Government creates things, some big, some small, all the time. Government created the Columbia Basin Reclamation Project which the private sector has benefited from in a thousand ways. Government recreated a Spokane River that once again sustains a healthy population of native Redband Rainbow trout.

While government is indeed funded by taxing those who create things, those creators also benefit from those taxes. But government also is also slightly funded by takers (both wealthy and poor) who create practically nothing.

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LeadBolt wrote:
Ok Jack___, we are all created equal under the law, but we are not all created equal in terms of talents, interests, drive, resources, physical ability, etc.

Gubment is to provide an atmosphere where we are all free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as each individual sees fit for themselves. It is not the job of gubment to guarantee equal outcome for all.

The gubment should guarantee equal rights for all people, not special rights for any particular group in trying to tip the scales in one direction or another..
As philosophically spot on ^ as this is... and it is
it lacks the Practical, Cynical and Eventual surrendering of the said "neutral atmosphere"

as power concentrates in the hands of one group... and it always does
Feel free to call that group "those that help themselves'' if that makes you feel better

but as it concentrates under one groups control
that group will construct a legal system modified for them exclusively
and not only will it defend them it will embolden them further
for the concentration of even greater power

Epstien / Trump / Clinton / Koch / etc.

They can do whatever the fuck they want with virtually zero accountability
and not because "Things are Equal" as your fantasy Democratic Republic 101 story suggests

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LeadBolt wrote:
Ibanez wrote: What a bullshit answer. Be a man and answer the question.


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Ok Jack___, we are all created equal under the law, but we are not all created equal in terms of talents, interests, drive, resources, physical ability, etc.

Gubment is to provide an atmosphere where we are all free to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as each individual sees fit for themselves. It is not the job of gubment to guarantee equal outcome for all.

The gubment should guarantee equal rights for all people, not special rights for any particular group in trying to tip the scales in one direction or another..
I'm the jackass? You're the guy that couldn't answer a question without a smartass remark . :roll:
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