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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:13 pm
by Baldy
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
He cited taxes and "soaring labor costs."
* labour

He must be a Brit.
Or an Aussie/Kiwi. They can't spell to good neither.

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:57 pm
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Right, but that doesn't mean they're on par or higher than they are here.
Sure...but the gap may be closing to the extent where it's a push.

I was making a broader sarcastic point about globalization. Quit being an 89... :)
It would be a good thing if we end up not having such wide differences in labor costs, especially when it's China's going up and ours not going down. It takes that variable out of the equation in terms of where companies choose to site their businesses, and it has a knock down effect that Chinese people begin to worry less about where their next meal will come from and worry more about things we care about like clean water/clean air, etc. Besides, competing on a level playing field isn't a bad thing.

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:24 pm
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Sure...but the gap may be closing to the extent where it's a push.

I was making a broader sarcastic point about globalization. Quit being an 89... :)
It would be a good thing if we end up not having such wide differences in labor costs, especially when it's China's going up and ours not going down. It takes that variable out of the equation in terms of where companies choose to site their businesses, and it has a knock down effect that Chinese people begin to worry less about where their next meal will come from and worry more about things we care about like clean water/clean air, etc. Besides, competing on a level playing field isn't a bad thing.
Fair enough points.

So one could say we've been making the world great again...

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:35 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:It would be a good thing if we end up not having such wide differences in labor costs, especially when it's China's going up and ours not going down. It takes that variable out of the equation in terms of where companies choose to site their businesses, and it has a knock down effect that Chinese people begin to worry less about where their next meal will come from and worry more about things we care about like clean water/clean air, etc. Besides, competing on a level playing field isn't a bad thing.
Fair enough points.

So one could say we've been making the world great again...
Why you mother fucker...
89Hen wrote:Our wages aren't going down. China not being able to undermine our wages because theirs are going up is a good thing kalm.
kalm = crickets

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:53 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
Fair enough points.

So one could say we've been making the world great again...
Why you mother fucker...
89Hen wrote:Our wages aren't going down. China not being able to undermine our wages because theirs are going up is a good thing kalm.
kalm = crickets
:mrgreen:

I'm still trying to make the 1990's Clintonian argument for the democracy spreading virtues of global capitalism jive with the original spirit of this thread.

It's a daunting task and I'm just trying to keep as open a mind as you... :thumb:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:54 pm
by 93henfan
Happy Trump Year!

Only two weeks until Martin Luther Trump, Jr Day!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:58 pm
by CAA Flagship
93henfan wrote:Happy Trump Year!

Only two weeks until Martin Luther Trump, Jr Day!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then, next month is Valentrump's Day. :lol:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:05 am
by Ibanez
Lawmakers and senior US intelligence officials drew a line in the sand for Donald Trump on Thursday, presenting a united front on their conclusion that Russia is a major threat to the United States and was behind election hacking -- a conclusion the President-elect has refused to accept.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought Obama wanted us to call the 1980s and return their foreign policy... :suspicious:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:16 am
by SDHornet
Ibanez wrote:
Lawmakers and senior US intelligence officials drew a line in the sand for Donald Trump on Thursday, presenting a united front on their conclusion that Russia is a major threat to the United States and was behind election hacking -- a conclusion the President-elect has refused to accept.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought Obama wanted us to call the 1980s and return their foreign policy... :suspicious:
"I do think public trust and confidence in the Intelligence Community is crucial" both in the US and in other countries that rely on US intelligence, James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Uh...wasn't that trust lost when we invaded Iraq and found no WMD? :? :lol:

Oh and Russia is our greatest ally. :rofl:
That will never get old. :D

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:48 am
by BDKJMU
Chizzang wrote:Indiana citizens will now pay $7,000,000 in annual tax incentives for 800 Carrier jobs to stay in Indiana...

:rofl:

"We certainly don't want to take as our guide to creating jobs special tax breaks for a company that earned $7.5 billion in profits last year, got $6 billion in defense contracts, paid its top five executives $50 million, in order to preserve 1,000 out of 2,100 jobs," said Shapiro.

"It's essentially a transfer from the taxpayers of Indiana, who are providing these tax breaks, to the shareholders of United Technology plus those 1,000 workers. That's really not a model for creating jobs across America," he added..."
There you go again. Equating government confiscating less $$ from a company somehow = the citizens paying that company.. :dunce:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:10 am
by kalm
BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Indiana citizens will now pay $7,000,000 in annual tax incentives for 800 Carrier jobs to stay in Indiana...

:rofl:

"We certainly don't want to take as our guide to creating jobs special tax breaks for a company that earned $7.5 billion in profits last year, got $6 billion in defense contracts, paid its top five executives $50 million, in order to preserve 1,000 out of 2,100 jobs," said Shapiro.

"It's essentially a transfer from the taxpayers of Indiana, who are providing these tax breaks, to the shareholders of United Technology plus those 1,000 workers. That's really not a model for creating jobs across America," he added..."
There you go again. Equating government contiscating less $$ from a company somehow = the citizens paying that company.. :dunce:
The old "keeping more of your money" meme is fun. Unless it's offset by spending cuts and every business in the state gets the same tax cut, it's also meaningless. :coffee:

Like it or not, states have to balance budgets and "the people"
have debt obligations that can't be ignored or kicked down the road unlike the Feds (conks are suppose to appreciate this).

Otherwise it's just government picking winners and losers and increases the tax burden on businesses and people who don't get the cuts.

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:49 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: There you go again. Equating government contiscating less $$ from a company somehow = the citizens paying that company.. :dunce:
The old "keeping more of your money" meme is fun. Unless it's offset by spending cuts and every business in the state gets the same tax cut, it's also meaningless. :coffee:

Like it or not, states have to balance budgets and "the people"
have debt obligations that can't be ignored or kicked down the road unlike the Feds (conks are suppose to appreciate this).

Otherwise it's just government picking winners and losers and increases the tax burden on businesses and people who don't get the cuts.

(
Speaking of the tax burden, Indiana had a $50M surplus last fiscal year and has about $2.25B in reserves, so there's that.

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:05 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
The old "keeping more of your money" meme is fun. Unless it's offset by spending cuts and every business in the state gets the same tax cut, it's also meaningless. :coffee:

Like it or not, states have to balance budgets and "the people"
have debt obligations that can't be ignored or kicked down the road unlike the Feds (conks are suppose to appreciate this).

Otherwise it's just government picking winners and losers and increases the tax burden on businesses and people who don't get the cuts.

(
Speaking of the tax burden, Indiana had a $50M surplus last fiscal year and has about $2.25B in reserves, so there's that.
Good on them!

I hope the tax relief...trickles down some small businesses. :thumb:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:44 am
by CAA Flagship
DJIA is within a hair of 20k right now.

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:17 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Stanley Black and Decker will build Craftsman tools in the US...bringing them back from overseas. Cites Trump's border tax was part of the reason.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/201 ... /96192526/



TRUMP WINS...AGAIN!!!

^^^^ Hey Libs...and Obama/Hillary supporters...and Chizzy...you're going to get sick of hearing that line repeated again, and again, and again. :rofl:

Making America Great Again!



































But, but, but, but Russia might have wanted Trump to win...

LOOK...squirrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:41 pm
by CAA Flagship
Cluck U wrote: LOOK...squirrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:14 pm
by 89Hen
Cluck U wrote:But, but, but, but Russia might have wanted Trump to win...

LOOK...squirrels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Russia = Benghazi

my how the tables have turned. :lol:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:11 pm
by Chizzang
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:52 pm
by houndawg
SDHornet wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/ ... index.html


I thought Obama wanted us to call the 1980s and return their foreign policy... :suspicious:
"I do think public trust and confidence in the Intelligence Community is crucial" both in the US and in other countries that rely on US intelligence, James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence, told the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Uh...wasn't that trust lost when we invaded Iraq and found no WMD? :? :lol:

Oh and Russia is our greatest ally. :rofl:
That will never get old. :D
I thought it was getting caught flat-footed by the collapse of the Soviet Union? :?

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:55 pm
by houndawg
CAA Flagship wrote:DJIA is within a hair of 20k right now.
Praise be upon Obama, the compassionate, the merciful!

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:25 am
by kalm
“The wealthy are going to create tremendous jobs. They’re going to expand their companies,” Trump asserted during the first presidential debate. “They’re going to bring $2.5 trillion back from overseas, … to be put to use on the inner cities and lots of other things, and it would be beautiful.” During the third debate he promised that “We’re going to start hiring people, we’re going to bring the $2.5 trillion that’s offshore back into the country. We are going to start the engine rolling again.”
Well what...in...the...hell...

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/cor ... 1#comments

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:36 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
“The wealthy are going to create tremendous jobs. They’re going to expand their companies,” Trump asserted during the first presidential debate. “They’re going to bring $2.5 trillion back from overseas, … to be put to use on the inner cities and lots of other things, and it would be beautiful.” During the third debate he promised that “We’re going to start hiring people, we’re going to bring the $2.5 trillion that’s offshore back into the country. We are going to start the engine rolling again.”
Well what...in...the...hell...

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/cor ... 1#comments
Hey, I'm all for "wealth management opportunities"! :thumb:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:22 pm
by Bronco
Funny that the Gov of Florida called Trump after the airport shooting

May have tried BHO 1st but was probably napping getting ready for his late night party last night

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:46 am
by houndawg
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Sure...but the gap may be closing to the extent where it's a push.

I was making a broader sarcastic point about globalization. Quit being an 89... :)
It would be a good thing if we end up not having such wide differences in labor costs, especially when it's China's going up and ours not going down. It takes that variable out of the equation in terms of where companies choose to site their businesses, and it has a knock down effect that Chinese people begin to worry less about where their next meal will come from and worry more about things we care about like clean water/clean air, etc. Besides, competing on a level playing field isn't a bad thing.
Global minimum wage - $15/hr. :coffee:

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:08 am
by 93henfan
Trump just stopped in front of the cameras at Trump Tower while seeing off the Alibaba founder. Priceless dialogue with a reporter:

Reporter: How is the confirmation process going?
Trump: The hearings are going great!
Reporter: The hearings haven't started yet.
Trump: Great!!

:lol: