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War on Christmas, 2016

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And this time, the godless heathens are taking on the Peanuts... :ohno:

Damn, pesky, constitutition.... :ohno:
One of the most poignant scenes in “A Charlie Brown Christmas” is when Linus stands on a stage and recites a passage from the Holy Bible describing the Christmas story.

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior which is Christ the Lord. That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown,” Linus said.

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It really does sum up the true meaning – the true reason for the holiday season – the birth of our Lord.

Dedra Shannon, a staffer at Patterson Middle School in Killeen, Texas, was so inspired by the scene she decided to use images to decorate the door to the nurse’s office.

The decorations included a picture of Linus, the scrawny Christmas tree and that classic passage of dialogue about the true meaning of the holiday.

The decorations were installed on December 5. On December 7, Ms. Shannon was confronted by the school’s principal.

“She said, ‘please don’t hate me, but unfortunately you’re going to have to take your poster down,” Ms. Shannon said. “I’m disappointed. It is a slap in the face of Christianity.”

The principal went on to explain that the poster violated the U.S. Constitution.
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I'M OUTRAGED!!!

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Are we winning?
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Charlie Brown sucks anyways. Has he been shot yet?

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Ibanez wrote:Are we winning?
Pretty sure we're all losers. :kisswink:
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bandl wrote:Charlie Brown sucks anyways. Has he been shot yet?
Not black..........so :?
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bandl wrote:Charlie Brown sucks anyways. Has he been shot yet?

What kind of an asshole didn't like Charlie Brown?

Good grief...
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Poor Christians. Such persecution.
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Vidav wrote:Poor Christians. Such persecution.

True dat! Its awesome to be a Christian!
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This war is coming to an end bitches!

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kalm wrote:Damn, pesky, constitutition.... :ohno:
And further down the rabbit hole goes klam.
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:Damn, pesky, constitutition.... :ohno:
And further down the rabbit hole goes klam.

The rabbit hole of constructionism and original intent. :lol:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Vidav wrote:Poor Christians. Such persecution.

True dat! Its awesome to be a Christian!
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Grizalltheway wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

True dat! Its awesome to be a Christian!
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Nope, but thats in Minnesota and Cleveland after the Cavs won the title.......................
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kalm wrote:And this time, the godless heathens are taking on the Peanuts... :ohno:

Damn, pesky, constitutition.... :ohno:
One of the most poignant scenes in “A Charlie Brown Christmas” is when Linus stands on a stage and recites a passage from the Holy Bible describing the Christmas story.

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior which is Christ the Lord. That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown,” Linus said.

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It really does sum up the true meaning – the true reason for the holiday season – the birth of our Lord.

Dedra Shannon, a staffer at Patterson Middle School in Killeen, Texas, was so inspired by the scene she decided to use images to decorate the door to the nurse’s office.

The decorations included a picture of Linus, the scrawny Christmas tree and that classic passage of dialogue about the true meaning of the holiday.

The decorations were installed on December 5. On December 7, Ms. Shannon was confronted by the school’s principal.

“She said, ‘please don’t hate me, but unfortunately you’re going to have to take your poster down,” Ms. Shannon said. “I’m disappointed. It is a slap in the face of Christianity.”

The principal went on to explain that the poster violated the U.S. Constitution.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: And further down the rabbit hole goes klam.

The rabbit hole of constructionism and original intent. :lol:
I'm sure the founders wrote the first amendment with Christmas decorations in schools in mind. :lol:

If ever there was a constitutional principle that was fabricated, it's the freedom from religion. :nod:
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Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote:

The rabbit hole of constructionism and original intent. :lol:
I'm sure the founders wrote the first amendment with Christmas decorations in schools in mind. :lol:

If ever there was a constitutional principle that was fabricated, it's the freedom from religion. :nod:
They were actually quite clear on not having a theocracy where the government had a voice regarding religion.

It's mostly harmless, but this...is more of a proclamation that a decoration...

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior which is Christ the Lord. That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown,”

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kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:
I'm sure the founders wrote the first amendment with Christmas decorations in schools in mind. :lol:

If ever there was a constitutional principle that was fabricated, it's the freedom from religion. :nod:
They were actually quite clear on not having a theocracy where the government had a voice regarding religion.

It's mostly harmless, but this...is more of a proclamation that a decoration...

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior which is Christ the Lord. That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown,”

:nod:
Christmas is a Federal holiday too, so there's that.

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Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
They were actually quite clear on not having a theocracy where the government had a voice regarding religion.

It's mostly harmless, but this...is more of a proclamation that a decoration...

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior which is Christ the Lord. That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown,”

:nod:
Christmas is a Federal holiday too, so there's that.
Great! We need more time off for our workers.

And I celebrate it too.
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She was chastised for participating in her religion, at the same time a Muslim student could have walked by wearing a headscarf in the same building. The constitution reads that people should be allowed to participate in their religion without government interference, just as much as the Muslim student should be allowed to participate in their religion by wearing a headscarf. Now if the principle ordered all teachers to put up Christmas posters, or all students be required to wear religious headscarves, that would violate the constitution.
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Gil Dobie wrote:She was chastised for participating in her religion, at the same time a Muslim student could have walked by wearing a headscarf in the same building. The constitution reads that people should be allowed to participate in their religion without government interference, just as much as the Muslim student should be allowed to participate in their religion by wearing a headscarf. Now if the principle ordered all teachers to put up Christmas posters, or all students be required to wear religious headscarves, that would violate the constitution.
A atudent wearing a head scarf is different than a school official putting up a printed poster. Both from an authority/government representative standpoint and a speech standpoint.
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kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:She was chastised for participating in her religion, at the same time a Muslim student could have walked by wearing a headscarf in the same building. The constitution reads that people should be allowed to participate in their religion without government interference, just as much as the Muslim student should be allowed to participate in their religion by wearing a headscarf. Now if the principle ordered all teachers to put up Christmas posters, or all students be required to wear religious headscarves, that would violate the constitution.
A atudent wearing a head scarf is different than a school official putting up a printed poster. Both from an authority/government representative standpoint and a speech standpoint.
How about a teacher wearing a headscarf then?

The poster still doesn't represent the schools view on religion, it still just represents the individual U.S. citizens view on their religion.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote:
A atudent wearing a head scarf is different than a school official putting up a printed poster. Both from an authority/government representative standpoint and a speech standpoint.
How about a teacher wearing a headscarf then?

The poster still doesn't represent the schools view on religion, it still just represents the individual U.S. citizens view on their religion.
I find the whole thing stupid
but
Is it a private school or a federally funded school..?
It is not a surprising that Gil can't quite grasp the situation
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Chizzang wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
How about a teacher wearing a headscarf then?

The poster still doesn't represent the schools view on religion, it still just represents the individual U.S. citizens view on their religion.
I find the whole thing stupid
but
Is it a private school or a federally funded school..?
It is not a surprising that Gil can't quite grasp the situation
Can you please explain what I am missing versus condescending comments about what I am saying. Does the constitution not prevent the government (principal), from interfering with a person's practice of their religion?

I'm not surprised we are looking at this situation from two different view.
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