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No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:02 pm
by JohnStOnge
Talking about this exchange:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... b7afc68537

Here's a report from the day before the election on a poll estimating how Trump would've done vs. Obama:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... er-clinton
The result: Obama would clobber Trump and Romney would trounce Clinton.

Obama can’t run for a third term, but if he could he’d beat Trump by 12 percentage points, 53 percent to 41 percent, according to the poll. Romney would defeat Clinton by 10 percentage points.
If you're wondering, that poll had Clinton up by 3 percentage points over Trump in the popular vote. She beat him by 2.1 percentage points in the popular vote. If you want to think Trump could win in the electoral college while losing by something like 12 percentage point in the popular vote, go ahead.

This bears upon a problem for the "right" with Trump winning. They are interpreting it as a repudiation of the policies of the "left." It's not that. It's a unique situation in which the opposing candidate was under FBI investigation for much of the election, etc., etc. Note the part of the quote above saying that Romney would've beaten Clinton much worse than Trump did.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:08 pm
by Chizzang
JohnStOnge wrote:Talking about this exchange:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... b7afc68537

Here's a report from the day before the election on a poll estimating how Trump would've done vs. Obama:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... er-clinton
The result: Obama would clobber Trump and Romney would trounce Clinton.

Obama can’t run for a third term, but if he could he’d beat Trump by 12 percentage points, 53 percent to 41 percent, according to the poll. Romney would defeat Clinton by 10 percentage points.
If you're wondering, that poll had Clinton up by 3 percentage points over Trump in the popular vote. She beat him by 2.1 percentage points in the popular vote. If you want to think Trump could win in the electoral college while losing by something like 12 percentage point in the popular vote, go ahead.

This bears upon a problem for the "right" with Trump winning. They are interpreting it as a repudiation of the policies of the "left." It's not that. It's a unique situation in which the opposing candidate was under FBI investigation for much of the election, etc., etc. Note the part of the quote above saying that Romney would've beaten Clinton much worse than Trump did.
Agreed,
Obama would have likely won the presidential election
and yes he was trolling the Trump camp - and they shot back immediately - as expected

But all that crap aside
After 8 years we need a new president regardless of who it is

:nod:

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:44 pm
by 93henfan
Hillary would have beat Trump too.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:14 pm
by Bronco
Time Trump gets done with BHO's legacy they will have to empty out his library

Actually a good question what is in Obama's library? Vacation photos?


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Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:41 pm
by mrklean
Obama would have beat the crap out of Trump. Not even close. But in the end we will never know.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:42 pm
by Vidav
Bronco wrote:Time Trump gets done with BHO's legacy they will have to empty out his library

Actually a good question what is in Obama's library? Vacation photos?


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Vacation photos from W's library?

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:54 am
by Baldy
JohnStOnge wrote:Talking about this exchange:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... b7afc68537

Here's a report from the day before the election on a poll estimating how Trump would've done vs. Obama:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... er-clinton
The result: Obama would clobber Trump and Romney would trounce Clinton.

Obama can’t run for a third term, but if he could he’d beat Trump by 12 percentage points, 53 percent to 41 percent, according to the poll. Romney would defeat Clinton by 10 percentage points.
If you're wondering, that poll had Clinton up by 3 percentage points over Trump in the popular vote. She beat him by 2.1 percentage points in the popular vote. If you want to think Trump could win in the electoral college while losing by something like 12 percentage point in the popular vote, go ahead.

This bears upon a problem for the "right" with Trump winning. They are interpreting it as a repudiation of the policies of the "left." It's not that. It's a unique situation in which the opposing candidate was under FBI investigation for much of the election, etc., etc. Note the part of the quote above saying that Romney would've beaten Clinton much worse than Trump did.
That's not what the exit polls say. :dunce:

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:11 am
by Ibanez
Vidav wrote:
Bronco wrote:Time Trump gets done with BHO's legacy they will have to empty out his library

Actually a good question what is in Obama's library? Vacation photos?


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Vacation photos from W's library?
Right. I don't care if Obama took some time to clear his head. The President has a lot of stress and burden on his shoulders. And if think he just puts an Out of Office on his email and then checks out, then you're just a special type of stupid. He's never off the job. He's on duty 24/7. Shit, if the POTUS can do a better job from Crawford, Hawai'i or Camp David, then that's where he needs to be.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:43 am
by andy7171
It doesn't really matter, because ... term limits. Is JSO now supporting removing term limits?

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:45 am
by 89Hen
JSO just grasping for anything here.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:25 am
by ASUG8
FDR and Kennedy would have crushed Obama, but in the end....

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Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:37 am
by ASUG8
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Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:41 am
by ASUG8
andy7171 wrote:It doesn't really matter, because ... term limits. Is JSO now supporting removing term limits?
And the Electoral college, but only in this case. :coffee:

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:47 am
by andy7171
ASUG8 wrote:
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Seriously. Why can't I see videos anymore???

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Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:23 am
by Ivytalk
Everyone on the Poli Board should make a New Year's resolution to ignore John SupertrollOnge's political posts in 2017 -- and beyond. :twocents: See my siggy.

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:10 pm
by SDHornet
93henfan wrote:Hillary would have beat Trump too.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:notworthy: :notworthy:

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:50 pm
by Chizzang
Ivytalk wrote:Everyone on the Poli Board should make a New Year's resolution to ignore John SupertrollOnge's political posts in 2017 -- and beyond. :twocents: See my siggy.
But... he's my favorite poster


:ohno:

Re: No,Trump, you would not have beaten Obama

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:27 am
by TheDancinMonarch
Ibanez wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Vacation photos from W's library?
Right. I don't care if Obama took some time to clear his head. The President has a lot of stress and burden on his shoulders. And if think he just puts an Out of Office on his email and then checks out, then you're just a special type of stupid. He's never off the job. He's on duty 24/7. ****, if the POTUS can do a better job from Crawford, Hawai'i or Camp David, then that's where he needs to be.
This kind of rational thinking will just never pass muster.