Championship Subdivision Football | FCS Football | Stadiums | Blogs | Forums

Grizalltheway wrote:Vlad accusing someone of having a Cold War mindset?

CID1990 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:Vlad accusing someone of having a Cold War mindset?

Trying to add basket case former Soviet republics isn't a Cold War mindset?

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment
By Matt Taibbi

In an extraordinary development Thursday, the Obama administration announced a series of sanctions against Russia. Thirty-five Russian nationals will be expelled from the country. President Obama issued a terse statement seeming to blame Russia for the hack of the Democratic National Committee emails.

"These data theft and disclosure activities could only have been directed by the highest levels of the Russian government," he wrote.

Russia at first pledged, darkly, to retaliate, then backed off. The Russian press today is even reporting that Vladimir Putin is inviting "the children of American diplomats" to "visit the Christmas tree in the Kremlin," as characteristically loathsome/menacing/sarcastic a Putin response as you'll find.

This dramatic story puts the news media in a jackpot. Absent independent verification, reporters will have to rely upon the secret assessments of intelligence agencies to cover the story at all.
Many reporters I know are quietly freaking out about having to go through that again. We all remember the WMD fiasco.

"It's déjà vu all over again" is how one friend put it.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/fe ... ks-w458439

Bronco wrote:Even the Rolling Stone knows Obama puts the lame in duck

Good comments at the end of their story

Headline at the top on Drudge:
PUTIN LAUGHS OFF OBAMA
RUSSIANS MOCK 'POLITICAL CORPSE'
'ANGRY AND SHALLOW-BRAINED'

Trump Tweets

Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart!
12:41 PM - 30 Dec 2016

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment
By Matt Taibbi

In an extraordinary development Thursday, the Obama administration announced a series of sanctions against Russia. Thirty-five Russian nationals will be expelled from the country. President Obama issued a terse statement seeming to blame Russia for the hack of the Democratic National Committee emails.

"These data theft and disclosure activities could only have been directed by the highest levels of the Russian government," he wrote.

Russia at first pledged, darkly, to retaliate, then backed off. The Russian press today is even reporting that Vladimir Putin is inviting "the children of American diplomats" to "visit the Christmas tree in the Kremlin," as characteristically loathsome/menacing/sarcastic a Putin response as you'll find.

This dramatic story puts the news media in a jackpot. Absent independent verification, reporters will have to rely upon the secret assessments of intelligence agencies to cover the story at all.
Many reporters I know are quietly freaking out about having to go through that again. We all remember the WMD fiasco.

"It's déjà vu all over again" is how one friend put it.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/fe ... ks-w458439

Grizalltheway wrote:

CID1990 wrote:

Trying to add basket case former Soviet republics isn't a Cold War mindset?

It is. That's why I find it funny that the Ruskies are accusing Obama of having one.

CID1990 wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
It is. That's why I find it funny that the Ruskies are accusing Obama of having one.

?

I left "to NATO" out of my question.

We never left the Cold War mindset, and it has not only gotten us to where we are, but it could also be the reason that we even know the name Vladimir Putin outside of intel circles.

Bronco wrote:Even the Rolling Stone knows Obama puts the lame in duck

Good comments at the end of their story

Headline at the top on Drudge:
PUTIN LAUGHS OFF OBAMA
RUSSIANS MOCK 'POLITICAL CORPSE'
'ANGRY AND SHALLOW-BRAINED'

Trump Tweets

Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart!
12:41 PM - 30 Dec 2016

Something About This Russia Story Stinks

Nearly a decade and a half after the Iraq-WMD faceplant, the American press is again asked to co-sign a dubious intelligence assessment
By Matt Taibbi

In an extraordinary development Thursday, the Obama administration announced a series of sanctions against Russia. Thirty-five Russian nationals will be expelled from the country. President Obama issued a terse statement seeming to blame Russia for the hack of the Democratic National Committee emails.

"These data theft and disclosure activities could only have been directed by the highest levels of the Russian government," he wrote.

Russia at first pledged, darkly, to retaliate, then backed off. The Russian press today is even reporting that Vladimir Putin is inviting "the children of American diplomats" to "visit the Christmas tree in the Kremlin," as characteristically loathsome/menacing/sarcastic a Putin response as you'll find.

This dramatic story puts the news media in a jackpot. Absent independent verification, reporters will have to rely upon the secret assessments of intelligence agencies to cover the story at all.
Many reporters I know are quietly freaking out about having to go through that again. We all remember the WMD fiasco.

"It's déjà vu all over again" is how one friend put it.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/fe ... ks-w458439

Bronco wrote:-
I don't like Progressives-Commies-socialists so neo-dems of all colors and creeds

If I was on Trumps team I would have the Russian punk band Pussy Riot play one of the inauguration balls.

Also when he takes away federal funds from sanctuary cities he should apply their money to building the wall.

Ivytalk wrote:Obama is the whiniest pussy of all of our lame-duck, outbound, soon-to-be-ex presidents.

SDHornet wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:Obama is the whiniest pussy of all of our lame-duck, outbound, soon-to-be-ex presidents.

Obama is acting like that kid throwing a tantrum when his parents are dragging him out of the toy store when he isn't getting the toy he wants.

JohnStOnge wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Obama is acting like that kid throwing a tantrum when his parents are dragging him out of the toy store when he isn't getting the toy he wants.

So, what do you think is the proper response on the part of a President if it is determined that the Russians make an active effort to, through cyber attack, interfere with a United States Presidential election?

93henfan wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
So, what do you think is the proper response on the part of a President if it is determined that the Russians make an active effort to, through cyber attack, interfere with a United States Presidential election?

Use a stronger password? Don't click on links from goggle.com? Crack down on private servers being used to process classified information? Prevent Secretaries of State from directing their uncleared foreign-born maids to print and handle classified emails when nobody is around watching them?

Just throwing things out there.

JohnStOnge wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Obama is acting like that kid throwing a tantrum when his parents are dragging him out of the toy store when he isn't getting the toy he wants.

So, what do you think is the proper response on the part of a President if it is determined that the Russians make an active effort to, through cyber attack, interfere with a United States Presidential election?

Grizalltheway wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
?

I left "to NATO" out of my question.

We never left the Cold War mindset, and it has not only gotten us to where we are, but it could also be the reason that we even know the name Vladimir Putin outside of intel circles.

But Vlad has? That was my original point in calling the tweet hypocritical.

JohnStOnge wrote: So, what do you think is the proper response on the part of a President if it is determined that the Russians make an active effort to, through cyber attack, interfere with a United States Presidential election?

JohnStOnge wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Obama is acting like that kid throwing a tantrum when his parents are dragging him out of the toy store when he isn't getting the toy he wants.

So, what do you think is the proper response on the part of a President if it is determined that the Russians make an active effort to, through cyber attack, interfere with a United States Presidential election?

houndawg wrote:He's white too!

Ibanez wrote:Plus, it isn't the nefarious emails and actions taken by the DNC that upsets the President and Democrats - it's the fact that they've been shown for the pieces of crap that they are.

Cluck U wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Plus, it isn't the nefarious emails and actions taken by the DNC that upsets the President and Democrats - it's the fact that they've been shown for the pieces of crap that they are.

Exactly.

Russia is a distraction...period.

The US involves itself in everyone else's elections...and we get our panties in a bunch when some other country tries to influence ours? By revealing the truth about the DNC trying to influence the election for Hillary over Bernie?

How much money did the Saudis give Clinton? How much money did the Saudis give the DNC? Is that not influence? Where's the outrage?

Russia is only our enemy if we make them our enemy.

Oh, Turkey and Russia agree on a cease fire in Syria...without Obama. Without Europe.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? How can that be?

Trump is correct...let those countries figure their crap out among themselves. No need for us to be so involved in that mess.

Clowns like JSO and McCain are stuck in the 1950's and 60's.

Pwns wrote:Imagine if the roles were reversed...if Republicans were trying to blame hacks on the RNC on an election loss with tenuous evidence..

Russia is only our enemy if we make them our enemy.