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Do noble/heroic actions exempt elected officials from all criticism? Is John Lewis exempt because he did some courageous things 50 years ago? Is John McCain exempt because of things he did 50 years ago? At what point do we say what have you done for me lately?

HI54UNI wrote:Do noble/heroic actions exempt elected officials from all criticism? Is John Lewis exempt because he did some courageous things 50 years ago? Is John McCain exempt because of things he did 50 years ago? At what point do we say what have you done for me lately?

Great question and it shouldn't. Lewis was grandstanding and got caught for it. Trump did his thing which gave me a chuckle...and now the left is losing their shit over it and the media is clickbaiting up a storm.

kalm wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:Do noble/heroic actions exempt elected officials from all criticism? Is John Lewis exempt because he did some courageous things 50 years ago? Is John McCain exempt because of things he did 50 years ago? At what point do we say what have you done for me lately?

Great question and it shouldn't. Lewis was grandstanding and got caught for it. Trump did his thing which gave me a chuckle...and now the left is losing their **** over it and the media is clickbaiting up a storm.

McCain has been Senator Douchebag ever since he lost the Presidency in 2008. You can certainly credit a person's past good deeds but call them out when appropriate.

Term limits! Term limits, I say!

HI54UNI wrote:Do noble/heroic actions exempt elected officials from all criticism? Is John Lewis exempt because he did some courageous things 50 years ago? Is John McCain exempt because of things he did 50 years ago? At what point do we say what have you done for me lately?

0 seconds, and maybe donks need to remember how quickly they went from giving W an extended standing ovation after 9/11 to calling him da debbil.

The only thing the media will do regarding criticism, is to lump criticism, even false stuff, upon Trump.

Yeah, Trump, "fired" the National Guard General, according to the Washington Post.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... d-general/

Who's John Lewis..?

From all accounts I've read, McCain was a poor student (riding the legacy coat tail) at USNA and a below average pilot. He was shot down after requesting some hot seat time to boost his resume.

Yes, he spent long, terrible time as a POW and for that should get his rightful due for medals and veteran benefits, but beyond that he's proven to be a privileged perpetual turd. We're well past any post-POW honeymoon sympathy period with him.

HI54UNI wrote:Do noble/heroic actions exempt elected officials from all criticism? Is John Lewis exempt because he did some courageous things 50 years ago? Is John McCain exempt because of things he did 50 years ago? At what point do we say what have you done for me lately?

They aren't. Previous acts of heroism or courage don't exempt you from being criticized. Acts of heroism isn't a blank check for future comments/actions.

93henfan wrote:From all accounts I've read, McCain was a poor student (riding the legacy coat tail) at USNA and a below average pilot. He was shot down after requesting some hot seat time to boost his resume.

Yes, he spent long, terrible time as a POW and for that should get his rightful due for medals and veteran benefits, but beyond that he's proven to be a privileged perpetual turd. We're well past any post-POW honeymoon sympathy period with him.

I believe he graduated dead last in his class and wouldn't have flown from a carrier if his daddy weren't an admiral. Basically a military version of Trump: born on third base and thinks he hit a triple

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

A black John McCain

houndawg wrote:

93henfan wrote:From all accounts I've read, McCain was a poor student (riding the legacy coat tail) at USNA and a below average pilot. He was shot down after requesting some hot seat time to boost his resume.

Yes, he spent long, terrible time as a POW and for that should get his rightful due for medals and veteran benefits, but beyond that he's proven to be a privileged perpetual turd. We're well past any post-POW honeymoon sympathy period with him.

I believe he graduated dead last in his class and wouldn't have flown from a carrier if his daddy weren't an admiral. Basically a military version of Trump: born on third base and thinks he hit a triple

Except for the fact that he did in fact fly from a carrier

(and land on it)

you would be correct - but his obvious ability to do so without becoming a permanent decoration on that carrier pretty much invalidates what you said


oh and McCain's an asshole

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

aparently he's a congresscritter whose careere path went like this:


march for civil rights, got beat up

...many years pass.... fade out of memory....

criticize Drumpf

fade out of memory...,

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

He used to run the United Mine Workers back in the day

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

He is Elijah Cummings. It's the same person worth 2 votes. It's how the Dems roll.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

He is Elijah Cummings. It's the same person worth 2 votes. It's how the Dems roll.

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

CAA Flagship wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Who's John Lewis..?

He is Elijah Cummings. It's the same person worth 2 votes. It's how the Dems roll.

I'm not kidding- when CNN reported on the story and showed video of him I thought it was Elijah Cummings and CNN had somehow screwed up

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
I believe he graduated dead last in his class and wouldn't have flown from a carrier if his daddy weren't an admiral. Basically a military version of Trump: born on third base and thinks he hit a triple

Except for the fact that he did in fact fly from a carrier

(and land on it)

you would be correct - but his obvious ability to do so without becoming a permanent decoration on that carrier pretty much invalidates what you said


oh and McCain's an asshole

I didn't say he couldn't learn to do it, I'm saying that a better pilot got screwed out of a slot by the admiral's son. Very few other pilots would have had the opportunity to lose four or five aircraft either. (And yes they weren't all his fault, but at least one was a straight up joyride that would have grounded anybody else).

which McCain is an asshole?

Fucking partisan hack.

John Lewis to skip inauguration for second time in congressional career

Georgia Rep. John Lewis’ absence at the inauguration of Donald Trump on Friday will mark the second time he has skipped an inauguration since he was elected to Congress 30 years ago.

President-elect Trump is not, in Lewis’ view a “legitimate president,” he told NBC’s Chuck Todd last week, a comment which aroused a predictable response from Mr. Trump -- a trio of angry tweets. At the time, Lewis said it would be the first time he’d be skipping an inauguration as a congressman, but in fact, there was another missed inauguration -- also a protest -- and that was the 2001 swearing in of President George W. Bush.

“His absence at that time was also a form of dissent,” Lewis’ communications director, Brenda Jones, told CBS News’ Walt Cronkite in an email. “He did not believe the outcome of the election, including the controversies around the results in Florida and the unprecedented intervention of the US Supreme Court, reflected a free, fair and open democratic process. “

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-lewis- ... al-career/

Not showing up is a classier way to show your disapproval than shouting 'YOU LIE' at the President during the speech, imo.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not showing up is a classier way to show your disapproval than shouting 'YOU LIE' at the President during the speech, imo.

I don't disagree. But the point is that he is over-grandstanding, and got caught.
Bottom line is that there will be no impact on the inauguration with his lack of attendance.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not showing up is a classier way to show your disapproval than shouting 'YOU LIE' at the President during the speech, imo.

Well, that depends. If the guy is outright lying, then he should be called out on it.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not showing up is a classier way to show your disapproval than shouting 'YOU LIE' at the President during the speech, imo.

I get they are disappointed, but the partisanship in this country makes zero sense to me (logically. I get it, but it's illogical to me.) Trump was elected fairly (until proven otherwise) according to our constitution. The same constitution that's elected the previous 44 people. I understand the issues people have with the Electoral College (although, it only seems to be a problem with Democrats aren't elected) but the process has worked as designed in the 58 presidential elections we've held. 5 of those are cases where the winner of the popular vote lost the Electoral Vote. Democracy has worked. Don't attend the inauguration, that's fine. Who cares? But to say he is illegitimate based on zero facts is just ridiculous. It was as ridiculous when the conservatives bitched in 2008/09 about Obama being a Kenyan and it's ridiculous today. Based on current facts, he was elected fair and square.

Clinton was the worst candidate they could've run. They were more focused on making history then running the best candidate.

CAA Flagship wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not showing up is a classier way to show your disapproval than shouting 'YOU LIE' at the President during the speech, imo.

I don't disagree. But the point is that he is over-grandstanding, and got caught.
Bottom line is that there will be no impact on the inauguration with his lack of attendance.

I know a couple that are sitting with our US Congressman at the inauguration. They are soooooooooooooooooooo excited.


I think more to witness the event than anything else.