Obama Pardons
Obama Pardons
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I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
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Leonard Peltier
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Himself and Holder for fast and furious deaths of 500 Mexicans and Brian Terry
Bowe Bergdahl...better not
Joanne Chesimard cop killer hiding in Cuba
Bill Cosby
Hillary
I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
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Leonard Peltier
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Himself and Holder for fast and furious deaths of 500 Mexicans and Brian Terry
Bowe Bergdahl...better not
Joanne Chesimard cop killer hiding in Cuba
Bill Cosby
Hillary
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. Al Swearengen
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Most of that list is "not black enough" to get a pardon from BrObama
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Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence.
Now, curious to see if Assange agrees to be extradited.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 2787059713
Now, curious to see if Assange agrees to be extradited.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 2787059713
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Yep, just like Brady and Belicheat are too white for you to care about them breaking the rules.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Most of that list is "not black enough" to get a pardon from BrObama
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I would care but they didnt do anything different than any other team in the NFL so....................Grizalltheway wrote:Yep, just like Brady and Belicheat are too white for you to care about them breaking the rules.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Most of that list is "not black enough" to get a pardon from BrObama
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"Pres. Obama pardons retired Gen. James Cartwright, charged with making false statements during a federal leak investigation.
he leaked classified information on the Iran Cyberattack
he leaked classified information on the Iran Cyberattack
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Assange said if Manning was pardoned, he'd come out of the embassy...that didn't happen, so I doubt he'll come out...Skjellyfetti wrote:Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence.
Now, curious to see if Assange agrees to be extradited.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 2787059713
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Leonard Peltier should be pardoned, don't think he shot the agents.
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Has Cosby been charged with any federal crimes or are they all state allegations? President can only pardon/grant clemency for federal crimesBronco wrote:-
I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
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Col Hogan wrote:Assange said if Manning was pardoned, he'd come out of the embassy...that didn't happen, so I doubt he'll come out...Skjellyfetti wrote:Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence.
Now, curious to see if Assange agrees to be extradited.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 2787059713
He said if he granted him clemency - not pardon.
Pardoning him AND commuting his sentence are BOTH granting him clemency.
And, yes... of course he is not going to leave the embassy. He was just trolling on Twitter with no intention of actually backing any of it up. Kinda like someone else...
Edit:
Nevermind. He may actually do it (still doubt it, though.
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You forgot Mumia.Bronco wrote:-
I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
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Leonard Peltier
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Himself and Holder for fast and furious deaths of 500 Mexicans and Brian Terry
Bowe Bergdahl...better not
Joanne Chesimard cop killer hiding in Cuba
Bill Cosby
Hillary
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What federal charges has Hillary been found guilty of?
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There are provisions for blanket pardons where a conviction or even a formal charge are not necessary.Vidav wrote:What federal charges has Hillary been found guilty of?
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CID1990 wrote:There are provisions for blanket pardons where a conviction or even a formal charge are not necessary.Vidav wrote:What federal charges has Hillary been found guilty of?
Yep...see Nixon
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Via ABC:
President Barack Obama has granted clemency to Oscar Lopez-Rivera who has been in federal prison since 1981.
Lopez-Rivera grew up in Chicago and was convicted of seditious conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government when he was a member of the Puerto Rican independence group FALN.
and 10 More Gitmo folks were releasedWASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama shortened the sentences of 209
prisoners and pardoned 64 individuals on Tuesday, the White House said.
With his term in office set to end on Friday, Obama has now commuted the
sentences of 1,385 people and granted a total of 212 pardons.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oba...
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Not released. Moved out of Gitmo.Bronco wrote:
and 10 More Gitmo folks were released
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Count so far
Bush transfers or releases 500
Obama transfers or releases 193
Bush transfers or releases 500
Obama transfers or releases 193
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That one might set off a real shitstorm, if it happens.CID1990 wrote:You forgot Mumia.Bronco wrote:-
I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
--
Leonard Peltier
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning
Himself and Holder for fast and furious deaths of 500 Mexicans and Brian Terry
Bowe Bergdahl...better not
Joanne Chesimard cop killer hiding in Cuba
Bill Cosby
Hillary
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I'm still surprised that Trump didn't tap him for VPtribe_pride wrote:Has Cosby been charged with any federal crimes or are they all state allegations? President can only pardon/grant clemency for federal crimesBronco wrote:-
I thought he would have released his list of pardons by now
This is my list
I hope I'm wrong but I went with what would tick off the most people
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Why?kalm wrote:Pardoning Manning was a good thing.
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The military was being about the prosecution of the war and civilian death totals. She exposed that albeit while breaking the law, owned it, apologized and did 7 years including solitary.Ivytalk wrote:Why?kalm wrote:Pardoning Manning was a good thing.
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Let's be honest, the main reason for the commutation of the sentence was the gender switch and the military's refusal to house her in a prison according to her new gender.kalm wrote:The military was being about the prosecution of the war and civilian death totals. She exposed that albeit while breaking the law, owned it, apologized and did 7 years including solitary.Ivytalk wrote: Why?
As for the crime, hey, once you're in the military there's a chain of command to follow to expose what had to be exposed here. There were plenty of ways to bring to light the military's faults without going so far outside the command that going to WikiLeaks represented. And you're ignoring that with all that she stole and gave to WikiLeaks, only about 1% of it dealt with the military's misdeeds.
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And she served enough time IMO.GannonFan wrote:Let's be honest, the main reason for the commutation of the sentence was the gender switch and the military's refusal to house her in a prison according to her new gender.kalm wrote:
The military was being about the prosecution of the war and civilian death totals. She exposed that albeit while breaking the law, owned it, apologized and did 7 years including solitary.
As for the crime, hey, once you're in the military there's a chain of command to follow to expose what had to be exposed here. There were plenty of ways to bring to light the military's faults without going so far outside the command that going to WikiLeaks represented. And you're ignoring that with all that she stole and gave to WikiLeaks, only about 1% of it dealt with the military's misdeeds.
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You mean more of a shitstorm than the 8 years of obvious hostility to street cops?Ivytalk wrote:That one might set off a real shitstorm, if it happens.CID1990 wrote:
You forgot Mumia.
Count me as cynical, but I don't think that's ever been a deterrent for this administration.
BTW I could be wrong, but does anyone want to avatar bet me on this pardon/commutation?
Keep in mind that Van Jones is a hardcore Mumia supporter, as is Obama's original nominee to DOJ, Debo Adegbile.
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