Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[kalm]

Yawn. You were taking shots at my posting RS articles from years ago within the last few weeks. It’s ok...I forgive you.

All I said was that Taibbi jumped in to throw a little shade at the media (true), that he's your dude (true), and that if anyone ought to know about media shenanigans, it would be a guy who has the misfortune of working at an outlet that nuked its own credibility (TRUE).

Does that look a little better or are you still triggad?

And I was just flipping you shit because you’ve gone to the RS well many times on me and Taibbi was pretty much the only reason I linked to RS and he gets it right most of the time.

It’s not always about giving, CID. Sometimes you need to receive.

(No homo)

[CID1990]

All I said was that Taibbi jumped in to throw a little shade at the media (true), that he's your dude (true), and that if anyone ought to know about media shenanigans, it would be a guy who has the misfortune of working at an outlet that nuked its own credibility (TRUE).

Does that look a little better or are you still triggad?

And I was just flipping you **** because you’ve gone to the RS well many times on me and Taibbi was pretty much the only reason I linked to RS and he gets it right most of the time.

It’s not always about giving, CID. Sometimes you need to receive.

(No homo)

Actually its RT I’ll never let you live down

It was your “Sarah Palin was a great pick” moment

In this case, I was just pointing out that you like Taibbi

Edit: speaking of Taibbi - how much do you agree with him here? He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left


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[CID1990]

double post

[kalm]

And I was just flipping you **** because you’ve gone to the RS well many times on me and Taibbi was pretty much the only reason I linked to RS and he gets it right most of the time.

It’s not always about giving, CID. Sometimes you need to receive.

(No homo)

Actually its RT I’ll never let you live down

It was your “Sarah Palin was a great pick” moment

In this case, I was just pointing out that you like Taibbi

Edit: speaking of Taibbi - how much do you agree with him here? He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left


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Pretty sure I acknowledged RT's shortcomings. That's what adults do...admit when they're wrong. They also let things go.

[CAA Flagship]

He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left

Journalism Dies in Self-Importance
As Ted Koppel has recognized, today’s media embrace the darkness of their own biases.

https://www.city-journal.org/media-bias

[Chizzang]

I would hope that everyone agrees that Trump being cleared of collusion is actually a good thing...
I mean, right..?

Don't we all want that outcome..?
I can't quite understand why any self respecting American would want any other outcome

Hate the guy all you want - but this is actually a good day

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Thanks fir educating us'n fat gun toting rednecks we appreciate all that you do!

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[CID1990]

Some people sure seem to be in mourning right now

Some idiot at ABC (I think it was) talking about how Trump is going to “weaponize” the Mueller report... that’s rich irony there

All kinds of narratives being tested right now... I wonder which one they’ll settle on? Our own CS canary in the coal mine is usually when Jellytreep StWronge repeats the same one twice


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[Pwns]

I would hope that everyone agrees that Trump being cleared of collusion is actually a good thing...
I mean, right..?

Don't we all want that outcome..?
I can't quite understand why any self respecting American would want any other outcome

Hate the guy all you want - but this is actually a good day

I'm going to borrow Charles Krauthammer's "guard rails of democracy" metaphor.

I think there are some on the left that are more afraid that guard rails will hold up against Trump than that they will give. If Trump doesn't do irreparable damage to the system it's much harder to justify tearing it down.

If Trump leaves without really having made himself the most powerful president ever then all of the talk of expanding the supreme court or abolishing the electoral college or the senate in the media and even in some politicians looks more ridiculous.

[CID1990]

I would hope that everyone agrees that Trump being cleared of collusion is actually a good thing...
I mean, right..?

Don't we all want that outcome..?
I can't quite understand why any self respecting American would want any other outcome

Hate the guy all you want - but this is actually a good day

all of the talk of expanding the supreme court or abolishing the electoral college or the senate.

Remember - these are people like treep..

people who also like to talk about “norms”



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[SDHornet]

all of the talk of expanding the supreme court or abolishing the electoral college or the senate.

Remember - these are people like treep..

people who also like to talk about “norms”



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lolz

[AZGrizFan]

phpBB [video]

It just NEVER gets old!!

[Baldy]

And I was just flipping you **** because you’ve gone to the RS well many times on me and Taibbi was pretty much the only reason I linked to RS and he gets it right most of the time.

It’s not always about giving, CID. Sometimes you need to receive.

(No homo)

Edit: speaking of Taibbi - how much do you agree with him here? He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left


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Patiently waiting for the answer to this question...

[kalm]

Edit: speaking of Taibbi - how much do you agree with him here? He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left


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Patiently waiting for the answer to this question...

Good read and he may be right on this topic.

Does that mean they were initially fully in the tank for the right on WMD’s?

[Winterborn]

Patiently waiting for the answer to this question...

Good read and he may be right on this topic.

Does that mean they were initially fully in the tank for the right on WMD’s?

Just giving you shit.

[SDHornet]

Patiently waiting for the answer to this question...

Good read and he may be right on this topic.

Does that mean they were initially fully in the tank for the right on WMD’s?

Well, same dude that lied to Congress about WMD's is the same guy the silent coup folks put in charge of taking down the Trumpster. Small world eh?

[kalm]

Good read and he may be right on this topic.

Does that mean they were initially fully in the tank for the right on WMD’s?

Well, same dude that lied to Congress about WMD's is the same guy the silent coup folks put in charge of taking down the Trumpster. Small world eh?

Yeah...Taibbi was talking about the media.

[kalm]

Good read and he may be right on this topic.

Does that mean they were initially fully in the tank for the right on WMD’s?

Just giving you shit.

I’m liberal and keep an open mind....so t his wont be the last time you can accuse me of this.....

[CID1990]

Actually its RT I’ll never let you live down

It was your “Sarah Palin was a great pick” moment

In this case, I was just pointing out that you like Taibbi

Edit: speaking of Taibbi - how much do you agree with him here? He’s pretty much calling the media what I’ve been calling them: fully in the tank for the left


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Pretty sure I acknowledged RT's shortcomings. That's what adults do...admit when they're wrong. They also let things go.

I agree.

I always make it my personal policy to make a full mea culpa when I’m wrong about something.




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[kalm]

Pretty sure I acknowledged RT's shortcomings. That's what adults do...admit when they're wrong. They also let things go.

I agree.

I always make it my personal policy to make a full mea culpa when I’m wrong about something.




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Do ya.

[CID1990]

I agree.

I always make it my personal policy to make a full mea culpa when I’m wrong about something.




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Do ya.

Prove me wrong.


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[JohnStOnge]

I'm sure you guys have all figured out by now that there is a long way to go on this thing. The only way it's going to be over is if Barr releases the entire report, un redacted, to at least one House committee.

Also, this thing where people think there is "no evidence" of "collusion" because Mueller did not find sufficient evidence to bring criminal charges at the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for conspiracy is willfully ignorant. That's not what it means. It means Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence to make a criminal charge.

We don't know, for instance, if there is sufficient evidence to meet the preponderance of the evidence standard. But if there is, that's enough for the House to have a field day if they get their hands on the information.

Bottom line is that at this point it would be best to just give all of the information to the House and let the games begin. If there's nothing there the House will either recognize it or they'll make fools of themselves. If there is something there, like a preponderance of the evidence for example, the American People should know about it. They should also know about it if the President didn't do anything criminal but did things that are unethical. And if he didn't they should know that to.

They, we, should get the full story.

[Col Hogan]

I'm sure you guys have all figured out by now that there is a long way to go on this thing. The only way it's going to be over is if Barr releases the entire report, un redacted, to at least one House committee.

Also, this thing where people think there is "no evidence" of "collusion" because Mueller did not find sufficient evidence to bring criminal charges at the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for conspiracy is willfully ignorant. That's not what it means. It means Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence to make a criminal charge.

We don't know, for instance, if there is sufficient evidence to meet the preponderance of the evidence standard. But if there is, that's enough for the House to have a field day if they get their hands on the information.

Bottom line is that at this point it would be best to just give all of the information to the House and let the games begin. If there's nothing there the House will either recognize it or they'll make fools of themselves. If there is something there, like a preponderance of the evidence for example, the American People should know about it. They should also know about it if the President didn't do anything criminal but did things that are unethical. And if he didn't they should know that to.

They, we, should get the full story.

So, if AG Barr releases the entire report, unredacted as you demand, will you defend him breaking Federal law by doing that?

It has been succinctly outlined several time why the report cannot be fully released...yet you demand federal law be ignored so you can read everything...

[JohnStOnge]

So, if AG Barr releases the entire report, unredacted as you demand, will you defend him breaking Federal law by doing that?

It has been succinctly outlined several time why the report cannot be fully released...yet you demand federal law be ignored so you can read everything...

My understanding is that there are ways to do it in conformity with the law. My understanding is that Barr could, for example, ask a judge to clear releasing Grand Jury information to Congress. If the judge clears it it'll be fine.

How about this: If it can be legally done, do you support doing it?

[JohnStOnge]

LOL! If you've been paying attention you realize by now that that's not the case.