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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:44 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Randy Credico and Jerome Corsi subpoenaed for Friday.

O/U on Stone's time in the barrel?

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:18 pm
by SDHornet
Lordy!

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:23 am
by Skjellyfetti
hmmm. searched for it... but, all i found was the guy tucking that into an extended rant on hannity

https://www.google.com/search?q=digenov ... 82&bih=774

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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:46 am
by houndawg
93henfan wrote:There went any ounce of credibility from Cohen, as if he had any anyway.

Just making up stories he thinks Mueller would want to hear. Wow.
:rofl:

You wish. He's giving Mueller chapter and verse or he goes to jail. Just like Trump's accountant. :thumb:

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:00 am
by 93henfan
No worries.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:02 am
by ∞∞∞
houndawg wrote:
93henfan wrote:There went any ounce of credibility from Cohen, as if he had any anyway.

Just making up stories he thinks Mueller would want to hear. Wow.
:rofl:

You wish. He's giving Mueller chapter and verse or he goes to jail. Just like Trump's accountant. :thumb:
I'd like to imagine that Cohen is the most credible person in this entire thing - not because of the man himself, but the paper trail he left behind as well as possible recordings.

Unless Cohen has been making up everything for decades... :coffee:

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:19 am
by SeattleGriz
Big discussion if today is the day Trump asks for the FISA memos to be released. If Trump does ask, does Rosenstein and Fray allow that to happen, or do they use the "methods and sources" to block?

Interesting the Senate Intelligence group has seen all of the unredacted information and they have allowed this to continue without shutting it down one way or another.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:20 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote: Image
I KNEW it!!! :lol: :lol:

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:27 am
by Skjellyfetti
SeattleGriz wrote:Big discussion if today is the day Trump asks for the FISA memos to be released. If Trump does ask, does Rosenstein and Fray allow that to happen, or do they use the "methods and sources" to block?

Interesting the Senate Intelligence group has seen all of the unredacted information and they have allowed this to continue without shutting it down one way or another.
President can declassify anything he wants. They can try to pursuade him about revealing sources and methods... but, he can still declassify if he wants. It's out of their control.

Re: RE: Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:36 am
by SeattleGriz
Skjellyfetti wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Big discussion if today is the day Trump asks for the FISA memos to be released. If Trump does ask, does Rosenstein and Fray allow that to happen, or do they use the "methods and sources" to block?

Interesting the Senate Intelligence group has seen all of the unredacted information and they have allowed this to continue without shutting it down one way or another.
President can declassify anything he wants. They can try to pursuade him about revealing sources and methods... but, he can still declassify if he wants. It's out of their control.
My bad, should have been more clear. The process requires Coats, Rosenstein and Fray to sign off on the process.

None of them seem too keen on making their own groups look bad. Will they fight any of the information release would have been a better question.

Re: RE: Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:40 pm
by Skjellyfetti
SeattleGriz wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
President can declassify anything he wants. They can try to pursuade him about revealing sources and methods... but, he can still declassify if he wants. It's out of their control.
My bad, should have been more clear. The process requires Coats, Rosenstein and Fray to sign off on the process.

None of them seem too keen on making their own groups look bad. Will they fight any of the information release would have been a better question.
Wrong.

The President can just declassify it. It's probably not going to often be a good thing for them to do so unilateraly... and, they should certainly seek consultation from their senior intelligence advisors... but, a President can declassify anything he wants and the approval of Coats, Wray or Rosenstein is not required.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:55 am
by houndawg
∞∞∞ wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:rofl:

You wish. He's giving Mueller chapter and verse or he goes to jail. Just like Trump's accountant. :thumb:
I'd like to imagine that Cohen is the most credible person in this entire thing - not because of the man himself, but the paper trail he left behind as well as possible recordings.

Unless Cohen has been making up everything for decades... :coffee:

I can't wait to hear what Trump's accountant has to say. :lol:

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:55 am
by CID1990
houndawg wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: I'd like to imagine that Cohen is the most credible person in this entire thing - not because of the man himself, but the paper trail he left behind as well as possible recordings.

Unless Cohen has been making up everything for decades... :coffee:

I can't wait to hear what Trump's accountant has to say. :lol:
About Russia?

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:06 am
by Pwns

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:08 am
by 93henfan
Precisely. Russia is loaded with hot sluts. If they were trying to bargain with sex, they wouldn’t send this:

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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:30 am
by Skjellyfetti
Meh. That wasn't part of her charges - part of the reasoning to keep her jailed pre-trial. We'll see if judge lets her out. Doubt it.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:21 pm
by Skjellyfetti
And, the judge rules in the government's favor. Butina remains on jail pending trial. :thumb:

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:58 pm
by GannonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:And, the judge rules in the government's favor. Butina remains on jail pending trial. :thumb:
You do realize they kept her because she's a flight risk, not because she's already been judged, correct? This might be a case the government just strikes out on.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:14 pm
by Skjellyfetti
GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:And, the judge rules in the government's favor. Butina remains on jail pending trial. :thumb:
You do realize they kept her because she's a flight risk, not because she's already been judged, correct? This might be a case the government just strikes out on.
Yes. Did i say anything differently?

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:23 pm
by GannonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
You do realize they kept her because she's a flight risk, not because she's already been judged, correct? This might be a case the government just strikes out on.
Yes. Did i say anything differently?
Sort of, when you said ...
Skjellyfetti wrote: Meh. That wasn't part of her charges - part of the reasoning to keep her jailed pre-trial.
. Again, she's a flight risk to a country where they couldn't extradite her, hence why she's in jail until the trial.

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:43 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Yes, and the part about her exchanging sex for influence was in the government's motion to hold her. It was part of their argument.

I agree that she was being held primarily because she's a flight risk and the sex for influence part doesn't matter much. That was my point.... And why I thought the judge would rule the way she did...

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:08 pm
by css75
Skjellyfetti wrote:Yes, and the part about her exchanging sex for influence was in the government's motion to hold her. It was part of their argument.

I agree that she was being held primarily because she's a flight risk and the sex for influence part doesn't matter much. That was my point.... And why I thought the judge would rule the way she did...
About the only one she could influence for sex would be Bill Clinton.


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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:19 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Put a high power rifle in her hand and she's Red Hat red meat.

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Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:15 pm
by CAA Flagship
Dammit, Jelly. Where are you?

Ex-Trump aide Manafort close to plea deal with Mueller
U.S. President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is close to reaching a plea deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... op+News%29

Re: Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:34 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Waiting to see what the terms are.

I don't think Manafort will cooperate and I don't think he will get much of a reduced sentence. My guess is he just wants to get it over with and wants as little evidence made public as possible.

But, I'd love to be wrong. Would never have expected Cohen to flip and implicate Trump months ago... :lol: