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Postby houndawg » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:32 am

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Jesus you're exasperating - I keep telling you to think big but you 're apparently under-equipped. Wether there is there there doesn't matter - and there is there there obviously. The trick is to keep this going until the election - Comey owes the Donks an October Surprise there - if you impeach Tromp the Republican Party has time to recover. The trick is to keep dripping it out until the conks have to deep six him themselves or go down in the undertow of his sinking ass. Thats some chess playing there; I think they just need to sit back and let Pelosi manage that process. :nod:


That's some great long game there, let the GOP have a full four year Presidential term, and then really stick it to them in the next Presidential cycle. I mean, they only gave up two SCOTUS picks while they were crafting this master strategy.

To me, if there was serious crimes committed in pursuit of the election and in the election (and I'm not including the shady financial stuff which has probably always been there for Trump, I'm talking stuff to throw an election to his favor) then it's a travesty of justice and our democracy that we're going to go a whole 4 years, and maybe more (because these things really take time dawgie says) investigating it before we bring it, and the principles in it and not just bit players, to prosecution.

The vast majority of stuff that's been indicted so far has had little to do with the election, and almost none of it to do with rigging the election. If we find out in 2020 that there's been proof of a rigged election, and we've been investigating it since before the 2016 election even happened (remember, this stuff was being looked at well in advance of Mueller even getting involved and in the spring and summer before that election even happened) then that's a stolen 4 years, cute political games aside. And if there wasn't any rigging of an election, then there's the other scary proposition of the precedent of a sitting President and his party beginning an investigation that will carry over in the administration of the next President of a different party. We all hope that Trump is just that exception and these crazy steps are just in response to a once in a lifetime development, but in the era of outrage 24/7 by the partisans on both sides, maybe this is the new normal we're establishing.


Get a grip, there, Mildred. They didn't craft anything like master strategy, other than "it's her turn" and now we're all paying the price. I'm saying that's how they should play the cards they hold right now; the Senate won't convict and he'll come out in better shape than he went in like one of those youtube vids of the whale being dragged down entangled in the fishing net. Unless they have something that can nullify the election and void all of his decisions of course.
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Postby CID1990 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:43 am

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That's some great long game there, let the GOP have a full four year Presidential term, and then really stick it to them in the next Presidential cycle. I mean, they only gave up two SCOTUS picks while they were crafting this master strategy.

To me, if there was serious crimes committed in pursuit of the election and in the election (and I'm not including the shady financial stuff which has probably always been there for Trump, I'm talking stuff to throw an election to his favor) then it's a travesty of justice and our democracy that we're going to go a whole 4 years, and maybe more (because these things really take time dawgie says) investigating it before we bring it, and the principles in it and not just bit players, to prosecution.

The vast majority of stuff that's been indicted so far has had little to do with the election, and almost none of it to do with rigging the election. If we find out in 2020 that there's been proof of a rigged election, and we've been investigating it since before the 2016 election even happened (remember, this stuff was being looked at well in advance of Mueller even getting involved and in the spring and summer before that election even happened) then that's a stolen 4 years, cute political games aside. And if there wasn't any rigging of an election, then there's the other scary proposition of the precedent of a sitting President and his party beginning an investigation that will carry over in the administration of the next President of a different party. We all hope that Trump is just that exception and these crazy steps are just in response to a once in a lifetime development, but in the era of outrage 24/7 by the partisans on both sides, maybe this is the new normal we're establishing.


Get a grip, there, Mildred. They didn't craft anything like master strategy, other than "it's her turn" and now we're all paying the price. I'm saying that's how they should play the cards they hold right now; the Senate won't convict and he'll come out in better shape than he went in like one of those youtube vids of the whale being dragged down entangled in the fishing net. Unless they have something that can nullify the election and void all of his decisions of course.


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Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:02 am

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Jesus you're exasperating - I keep telling you to think big but you 're apparently under-equipped. Wether there is there there doesn't matter - and there is there there obviously. The trick is to keep this going until the election - Comey owes the Donks an October Surprise there - if you impeach Tromp the Republican Party has time to recover. The trick is to keep dripping it out until the conks have to deep six him themselves or go down in the undertow of his sinking ass. Thats some chess playing there; I think they just need to sit back and let Pelosi manage that process. :nod:

I read an article today that Brennan thinks indictments will come down this Friday.


The Friday after would be so much more poetic. :D
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Postby UNI88 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:16 am

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Ibanez wrote:I read an article today that Brennan thinks indictments will come down this Friday.


The Friday after would be so much more poetic. :D
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Postby GannonFan » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:00 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote:I read an article today that Brennan thinks indictments will come down this Friday.


The Friday after would be so much more poetic. :D


Would it? I mean, if you follow that all the way out, does Pence get to fill the role of Augustus Caesar and end up ushering out the last vestiges of the Republic? The Ides of March was just the Battle of the Bulge moment for Julius's most strident enemies - it didn't end well for any of them.
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:43 pm

Should have predicted that response. :lol:


Relax, Professor Ganny. I don't think Trump will literally get knifed in the back next week.
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Postby Ibanez » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:27 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Should have predicted that response. :lol:


Relax, Professor Ganny. I don't think Trump will literally get knifed in the back next week.

No...I wouldn't expect anything next week. If something BIG were to happen, I don't think Mueller would want it it to occur March 15th. Too much drama. :twocents:
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Postby Grizalltheway » Thu Mar 07, 2019 3:36 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Should have predicted that response. :lol:


Relax, Professor Ganny. I don't think Trump will literally get knifed in the back next week.

No...I wouldn't expect anything next week. If something BIG were to happen, I don't think Mueller would want it it to occur March 15th. Too much drama. :twocents:

How many Americans even know/remember the significance of that date? :?

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:11 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Should have predicted that response. :lol:


Relax, Professor Ganny. I don't think Trump will literally get knifed in the back next week.

No...I wouldn't expect anything next week. If something BIG were to happen, I don't think Mueller would want it it to occur March 15th. Too much drama. :twocents:


Yeah... trying to predict what Mueller is going to do is a fool's errand.

Only relatively safe wager is that it will be on a Friday. :lol:
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Postby Ibanez » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:00 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote:No...I wouldn't expect anything next week. If something BIG were to happen, I don't think Mueller would want it it to occur March 15th. Too much drama. :twocents:


Yeah... trying to predict what Mueller is going to do is a fool's errand.

Only relatively safe wager is that it will be on a Friday. :lol:

Well yeah- that is when indictments are handed down.


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Postby BDKJMU » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:38 am

So the senstences Mueller has gotten so far have ranged in months and weeks to no time at all. Manafort has been the biggest comviction so far, and he just senteced to a whopping 47 months..

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Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:15 am

BDKJMU wrote:So the senstences Mueller has gotten so far have ranged in months and weeks to no time at all. Manafort has been the biggest comviction so far, and he just senteced to a whopping 47 months..

What does that matter? :dunce:

That isn't sound logic.

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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:15 pm

Nellie Ohr.

She's the creator of the Steele Dossier. Just needed Steele to take her information and launder it before giving it to FBI or reporters.

Just read through some of the Bruce Ohr testimony. Not looking good for the "deep state". There are going to be some back room deals to save face.
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Postby BDKJMU » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:51 pm

SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:



:rofl:

Yeah this is from some Foxnews shill, but this pretty much sums up this Cohen show:



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"President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen told House investigators this week that staff for Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., traveled to New York at least four times to meet with him for over 10 hours immediately before last month’s high-profile public testimony, according to two sources familiar with the matter -- as Republicans question whether the meetings amounted to coaching a witness."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cohen- ... ee-hearing

This just shows how the coached testimony of a proven liar was a complete partisan charade.. :nod:

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:07 pm

Did he and Schiff forge the documents?

It's not his testimony that's damning...
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Postby JohnStOnge » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:43 pm

BDKJMU wrote:[
"President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen told House investigators this week that staff for Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., traveled to New York at least four times to meet with him for over 10 hours immediately before last month’s high-profile public testimony, according to two sources familiar with the matter -- as Republicans question whether the meetings amounted to coaching a witness."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cohen- ... ee-hearing

This just shows how the coached testimony of a proven liar was a complete partisan charade.. :nod:


Ok. Am I correct in thinking that Cohen's public testimony was before the House Oversight Committee and not the House Intelligence Committee?

I heard some news about the meetings with Intelligence Committee Staff on the radio and wondered at the time what the big deal was.

And I go back to why Cohen is a "proven liar:" He is a "proven liar" because he lied about Trump trying to get a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow under circumstances where Trump had been claiming that he had nothing going on with respect to Russia.
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Postby houndawg » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:21 am

CID1990 wrote:This is like the only situation in the history of forever where you will find leftists viewing a lawyer named Cohen as credible


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Whether or not I find him credible isn't relevant, he's at least as big a liar as trump - what is relevant is the signature on the checks that he wrote to keep the porno stars quiet during his campaign. Or the fact that the reason Mueller is involved is because Moscow Don went on national TV and told Lester Holt that he fired Comey because "this Russia thing is a made up story".
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Postby houndawg » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:32 am

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Get a grip, there, Mildred. They didn't craft anything like master strategy, other than "it's her turn" and now we're all paying the price. I'm saying that's how they should play the cards they hold right now; the Senate won't convict and he'll come out in better shape than he went in like one of those youtube vids of the whale being dragged down entangled in the fishing net. Unless they have something that can nullify the election and void all of his decisions of course.


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Postby Ibanez » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:45 am

BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:



:rofl:

Yeah this is from some Foxnews shill, but this pretty much sums up this Cohen show:



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"President Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen told House investigators this week that staff for Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., traveled to New York at least four times to meet with him for over 10 hours immediately before last month’s high-profile public testimony, according to two sources familiar with the matter -- as Republicans question whether the meetings amounted to coaching a witness."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cohen- ... ee-hearing

This just shows how the coached testimony of a proven liar was a complete partisan charade.. :nod:

Oh- was Schiff I’m Trump Tower when his son was meeting with Russians or when he was directing Cohen to cover up his affairs?


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Postby SDHornet » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:14 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:Nellie Ohr.

She's the creator of the Steele Dossier. Just needed Steele to take her information and launder it before giving it to FBI or reporters.

Just read through some of the Bruce Ohr testimony. Not looking good for the "deep state". There are going to be some back room deals to save face.

But jellybelly assured us that there is no such thing as the "Deep State".

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Postby SDHornet » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:05 pm

Pelosi shelves impeachment barring the Mueller Report containing anything "compelling and overwhelming", and Schiff also walking impeachment back....hmmmm...

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:39 pm

SDHornet wrote:Pelosi shelves impeachment barring the Mueller Report containing anything "compelling and overwhelming", and Schiff also walking impeachment back....hmmmm...


That's not what she said.
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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:42 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Pelosi shelves impeachment barring the Mueller Report containing anything "compelling and overwhelming", and Schiff also walking impeachment back....hmmmm...


That's not what she said.


Start spinning, bro. :rofl:
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:44 pm

Ok. I'll post her full quote as my "spin"... bro.

This is news. I'm going to give you some news right now because I haven't said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I've been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over


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