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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:59 am

Ivytalk wrote:
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Not all. Only 3 of the 7. :coffee: :coffee:

You have 7 sisters? :shock:

No wonder you’re so crabby: you had to fight to get to the crapper for 18 years. :lol:


Seven OLDER sisters. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

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Postby Ivytalk » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:02 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:You have 7 sisters? :shock:

No wonder you’re so crabby: you had to fight to get to the crapper for 18 years. :lol:


Seven OLDER sisters. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

3 Donks
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Postby Ibanez » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:45 pm

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Third, AZ is incorrect, the Steele Dossier wasn't the catalyst. Multiple investigations, including one by the Republican House has said as such.



Hold up, pip squeak. :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand: I NEVER said the dossier was the catalyst. I said:

AZGrizFan wrote:You have no problem that the entire report/investigation was based on a flawed/false premise? He should just go quietly into the night regardless? Would you?


To which YOU replied/assumed:

Ibanez wrote:Are you talking about the Steele Dossier?

Mueller's report cites Papadopoulos and supposed Russian involvement in the DNC leaks prompted the investigations. The Dossier didn't initiate the investigation no matter how much Sean Hannity and Trump want you to believe.



To which I then replied:

AZGrizFan wrote:And who developed the dossier? What prompted/initiated the investigation?


Nowhere did I say I believed the dossier was the catalyst. In fact, I asked specifically WHAT prompted the investigation?

I must've confused you with someone else. Sorry bud.

You assumed that I
AZGrizFan wrote:You have no problem that the entire report/investigation was based on a flawed/false premise? He should just go quietly into the night regardless? Would you?


I did assume you were talking about the dossier b/c that seems to be the talking point that people hold on to.


I must've gotten thrown off by you quoting my post and asked a question which was answered in the post you quoted.
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Postby Ibanez » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:45 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Seven OLDER sisters. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

3 Donks
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Must be a helluva Thanksgiving for the AZGF clan! Do you need to rent a Legion hall? :D

With that many kids, i'd say the Knights of Columbus hall. :coffee:
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Postby Ibanez » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:47 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Are you talking about the Steele Dossier?

Mueller's report cites Papadopoulos and supposed Russian involvement in the DNC leaks prompted the investigations. The Dossier didn't initiate the investigation no matter how much Sean Hannity and Trump want you to believe.

Trump surrounded himself by shady people. Are you familiar with Operation Crossfire Hurricane?


Besides, if you had something like the Steele Dossier given to you, don't you think you'd want to take it seriously and verify or disprove it's contents? The dossier was correct about some things like Russian interference in the election, the Kremlin being responsible for the DNC hacked emails and Wikileaks. I think the Golden Showers is the only thing in the dossier that's either unproven or false. Just about everything else is factually correct in one way or another.


And who developed the dossier? What prompted/initiated the investigation?


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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 pm

Ibanez wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And who developed the dossier? What prompted/initiated the investigation?


In case you missed it. :kisswink:


Yes. In response to YOU specifically mentioning the dossier. :kisswink: :kisswink:
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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:39 pm

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Ivytalk wrote:Must be a helluva Thanksgiving for the AZGF clan! Do you need to rent a Legion hall? :D

With that many kids, i'd say the Knights of Columbus hall. :coffee:


They used to be fun. Until my three sisters developed horrible cases of TDS. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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Postby Winterborn » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:48 pm

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Ibanez wrote:With that many kids, i'd say the Knights of Columbus hall. :coffee:


They used to be fun. Until my three sisters developed horrible cases of TDS. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:


On a scale of 1 to JSO how bad is it?


I am pretty fortunate that in my family (5 siblings) we all agree that Trump is a POS (our arguments are on how big of one he is). Our discussion usually revolve around the current small business environment and the markets. Throw in a few history topics and that is vast majority of what is discussed when we all get together.
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Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:25 pm

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They used to be fun. Until my three sisters developed horrible cases of TDS. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:


On a scale of 1 to JSO how bad is it?


I am pretty fortunate that in my family (5 siblings) we all agree that Trump is a POS (our arguments are on how big of one he is). Our discussion usually revolve around the current small business environment and the markets. Throw in a few history topics and that is vast majority of what is discussed when we all get together.


Oh, they make JSO look like child's play. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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Postby Ibanez » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:07 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
In case you missed it. :kisswink:


Yes. In response to YOU specifically mentioning the dossier. :kisswink: :kisswink:

I see, now.


Yeah, I brought it up because all I’ve heard on this board by Republicans was the dossier being the false information that started the investigation, contrary to facts. I don’t recall who kept promoting that idea. Probably some apologist like AG, BDK or SD.








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Postby Ibanez » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:08 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Winterborn wrote:
On a scale of 1 to JSO how bad is it?


I am pretty fortunate that in my family (5 siblings) we all agree that Trump is a POS (our arguments are on how big of one he is). Our discussion usually revolve around the current small business environment and the markets. Throw in a few history topics and that is vast majority of what is discussed when we all get together.


Oh, they make JSO look like child's play. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Haha damn.

In my family( 5 siblings) everyone but I voted for Trump because he wasn’t Clinton. But they’re all tired of shit.


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Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:16 am

Hey! Just like Carter Page! A supposed evil Russian actually turns out to be a State department informant.

Boy, how does Mueller keep getting it wrong.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... department
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Postby Chizzang » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:08 pm

What this forum needs is a good: Bush/Hitler thread...
there's a lot of meat on that bone

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Postby Ibanez » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:14 pm

Chizzang wrote:What this forum needs is a good: Bush/Hitler thread...
there's a lot of meat on that bone

:geek:

I think we can make a generic "American President/Hitler" thread. I'm told by some Republican friends that Obama was Hitler.

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Postby Chizzang » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:45 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:What this forum needs is a good: Bush/Hitler thread...
there's a lot of meat on that bone

:geek:

I think we can make a generic "American President/Hitler" thread. I'm told by some Republican friends that Obama was Hitler.

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That is irrefutable !

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Postby CID1990 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:13 pm

Speaking of bones

You might want to “bone” up on the history of Nazi Germany before wading in

Otherwise you’ll be making silly talk like,

Sudetenland = Iraq


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Postby SDHornet » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:48 pm

Ibanez wrote:First, stop saying collusion. That's not a crime here (that's more like Verizon and Sprint trying to set prices or something.). It's conspiracy. Words are important and let's use them correctly.

Nope. Media was pimping this failed narrative as Russian Collusion. I'll continue to use that term. And yes, I understand collusion is not a crime.
Second, I agree that the goal posts were moved but I never for one moment thought the MUELLER investigation was about impeachment. Sure, the underlying motive behind anything the Democrats have done are to that effect. But I don't think the Trump Administrations own investigation had impeachment in mind.

Huh? Muellers' recent presser was a wink and a nod towards impeachment. Even blind ass jellybelly saw that. Muellers' job wasn't' to absolve anyone of a crime but to determine/find evidence for prosecution...and since a President can't be prosecuted, he was to find a reason for impeachment. How are you not connecting these dots?
Third, AZ is incorrect, the Steele Dossier wasn't the catalyst. Multiple investigations, including one by the Republican House has said as such.

The Dossier was a critical part of the FISA warrant. Pretty sure that's been covered on here multiple times (with sources and links). I'm not going to go back and dig it up, feel free to do your own homework.
Fourth, I don't see the Republicans putting country before party and impeaching any Republican President. For the record, I feel the same about the Democrats. They won't hand over that sort of victory to the opposition. I'm extremely jaded so take that for what it's worth.

There are plenty of R's that hate Trump. If Mueller found the goods then best believe they would not have hesitated to vote for impeachment.
Fifth, who said anything about entrapment? I'm not following you there. I could've missed some posts, especially if it's something that came from SK.

The whole Papadopulos thing was a set up. They would have gotten him on something more than a process crime if there was any "there there". Here is a good interview with him about the whole situation, its worth a listen IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb6em1zCg2A&t=1s


Sixth, I appreciate the respectfulness of our back and forth on this. It's proof that 2 people, with varying opinions can have a civil discussion. :kisswink:

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Postby SDHornet » Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:48 pm

SeattleGriz wrote:Hey! Just like Carter Page! A supposed evil Russian actually turns out to be a State department informant.

Boy, how does Mueller keep getting it wrong.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... department

But no Deep State though...


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Postby CID1990 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:54 pm

SDHornet wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Hey! Just like Carter Page! A supposed evil Russian actually turns out to be a State department informant.

Boy, how does Mueller keep getting it wrong.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... department

But no Deep State though...


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby Chizzang » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:28 pm

CID1990 wrote:Speaking of bones

You might want to “bone” up on the history of Nazi Germany before wading in

Otherwise you’ll be making silly talk like,

Sudetenland = Iraq



Bush = Hitler

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Postby CID1990 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:25 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Speaking of bones

You might want to “bone” up on the history of Nazi Germany before wading in

Otherwise you’ll be making silly talk like,

Sudetenland = Iraq



Bush = Hitler

:nod:


Laziest troll ever

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Postby Chizzang » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:46 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Bush = Hitler

:nod:


Laziest troll ever

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Postby CID1990 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:21 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Laziest troll ever

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9/11 = Reichstag fire

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Postby UNI88 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:03 am

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Chizzang wrote:Image
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9/11 = Reichstag fire

lol

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I don't think Chizzy is actually equating Bush to Hitler, he's saying that progressives were equating Bush to Hitler.

You two appear to be engaged in two completely different disagreements.

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Postby BDKJMU » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:36 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Speaking of bones

You might want to “bone” up on the history of Nazi Germany before wading in

Otherwise you’ll be making silly talk like,

Sudetenland = Iraq



Bush = Hitler

:nod:

Yeah, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?


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