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clenz wrote:I think Gore is full of shit in so many ways, and whatever climate change is happening is a natural cycle


HOWEVER


I do agree that we, as humans, need to live more sustainably. So this might be worth a read.

wideright82 wrote:

clenz wrote:I think Gore is full of shit in so many ways, and whatever climate change is happening is a natural cycle


HOWEVER


I do agree that we, as humans, need to live more sustainably. So this might be worth a read.

I agree. We are one of the most efficient forms of parasite there is on this planet, and we do need to start trying to clean the earth. I mean, shit, whats the worst that happens, its clean? I have issues with striking fear into people as if a forcast for climate in the future about 30-40 years is accurate, when we don't know if a snow storm is going to hit 3 days prior.

clenz wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

I agree. We are one of the most efficient forms of parasite there is on this planet, and we do need to start trying to clean the earth. I mean, shit, whats the worst that happens, its clean? I have issues with striking fear into people as if a forcast for climate in the future about 30-40 years is accurate, when we don't know if a snow storm is going to hit 3 days prior.

I'm actually doing a research paper/presentation for a class about Global Warming. Well it was supposed to be about global warming, I explained to my teacher that I preferred not to do "global warming" as it has been beaten to death and I believe it is more natural cycle than man made. I told her I would rather take it the route of living more sustainably, and giving the class something they can actually use in life instead of "facts" backed by politically agendad douches on both sides of the argument.


She loved the idea.

AZGrizFan wrote:

clenz wrote: I'm actually doing a research paper/presentation for a class about Global Warming. Well it was supposed to be about global warming, I explained to my teacher that I preferred not to do "global warming" as it has been beaten to death and I believe it is more natural cycle than man made. I told her I would rather take it the route of living more sustainably, and giving the class something they can actually use in life instead of "facts" backed by politically agendad douches on both sides of the argument.


She loved the idea.

....but ***** must HATE you.

clenz wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
....but ***** must HATE you.

***** can burn in hell right next to Hitler, Dahmer and Gore for all I care

wideright82 wrote:

clenz wrote:***** can burn in hell right next to Hitler, Dahmer and Gore for all I care

Look, what dahmer did was perfectly natural. I doubt he is in hell.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

Look, what dahmer did was perfectly natural. I doubt he is in hell.

You've just been sainted Mr. Onge... lol

Cap'n Cat wrote:Gore is God.

grizzaholic wrote:Will he just die.

wideright82 wrote:

clenz wrote:***** can burn in hell right next to Hitler, Dahmer and Gore for all I care

Look, what dahmer did was perfectly natural. I doubt he is in hell.

HI54UNI wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:Will he just die.

We couldn't get that lucky.

I wonder if he will offset the carbon he will spew while flying to all the book signings, fellatio ceremonies, etc?

Oh wait, he will, he'll just write a check to the company he owns that sells carbon offsets.

D1B wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:
We couldn't get that lucky.

I wonder if he will offset the carbon he will spew while flying to all the book signings, fellatio ceremonies, etc?

Oh wait, he will, he'll just write a check to the company he owns that sells carbon offsets.

HI5, did it ever occur to you that until someone makes money on something, nothing will happen? I hope the people who contribute to solutions make zillions.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

D1B wrote:
HI5, did it ever occur to you that until someone makes money on something, nothing will happen? I hope the people who contribute to solutions make zillions.

D1B I would agree with you except that this front man is a hypocritical mofo that is real hard to take seriously. I minimize and reuse as much as possible but this shitbag acting like he is the messiah on this issue while not doing a whole lot to lead by example makes it hard to take the dope as a leader on the issue. He's worth whatever he makes as far as money goes but I ain't putting any in his pocket.

travelinman67 wrote:The Liar Gore bellies up to the bar for another ass whuppin, huh...

It is a scientific fact that Global Warming provides the means for the ignorant to declare with absolute certainty that they know the unknowable -- Laika The Space Dog

Since man-made Global Warming is becoming increasingly unknowable and avoids being accurately measured, progressive scientists are working hard on new arguments to convince the masses in the necessity to believe in it. In lieu of objective criteria it boils down to a simple matter of faith: Global Warming is, or It is not. But to which side shall the progressive masses incline? In a stunning breakthrough, researchers at Karl Marx Treatment Center have developed a revolutionary concept of the People's Cube Global Warming Wager which proves that believing in Global Warming is more advantageous than not believing. It's similar to the Pascal's Wager argument, only it's more progressive.

The original diagram drawn by Blaise Pascal in 1654 while developing Pascal's Wager argument:

We can argue that it is always a better "bet" to believe in Global Warming, because the expected value to be gained from believing in Global Warming is always greater than the expected value resulting from non-belief. Note that this is not an argument for the existence of Global Warming, but rather one for the belief in It. This argument is specifically aimed at the ignorant masses who are not convinced by traditional arguments for the existence of Global Warming.
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In short, Man-Made Global Warming Wager can be described as follows: Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that Global Warming is. If you gain, you gain all (prevent climate change and kill capitalism); if you lose, you lose nothing - but kill capitalism anyway. Wager, then, without hesitation that Global Warming is!
Al Gore provides information about man-made Global Warming but not proof for it. Should you believe in this Global Warming? This is where our Wager comes in, providing an analytical process for the masses to evaluate their options:

1) The masses believe in Global Warming and it really exists: we prevent climate change and kill capitalism: our gain is infinite.

2) The masses believe in Global Warming but it doesn't exist: we lose nothing but kill capitalism anyway and claim we saved the planet.

3) The masses don't believe in Global Warming and it doesn't exist: the growth of capitalist prosperity will continue unabated, distracting the masses from the need to fight capitalism. Faith in socialism withers away: our loss is infinite.

4) The masses don't believe in Global Warming, but it exists and arrives to smite the nonbelievers: See #3, plus our beach homes get washed away: our loss is infinite.

From these possibilities, and the principles of Marxist ethics (anything is moral as long as it advances Socialist Revolution) we deduce that it would be better to believe in man-made Global Warming unconditionally.

The following table shows the values that we assigned to each possible outcome:
(Please note that this is not an argument for the existence of Global Warming, but rather one for the belief in It).


Given the values, the option of believing in Global Warming (B) dominates the option of not believing in it (~B). The actual probabilities make no difference to the argument, since any non-zero chance multiplied by infinity yields an infinite expected value.

This wager demonstrates beyond doubt that believing in Global Warming is more advantageous than not believing. Researchers at Karl Marx Treatment Center are hopeful that this discovery will finally convert the nonbelievers who rejected previous theological arguments.