Congressional Hearings

[JohnStOnge]

I think we need a rule saying public Congressional hearings are not allowed. All they are are each side posturing. Just making speeches. I was trying to listen to the radio as I drove back from field work today and that's all I got. Just stop.

If you're going to have hearings, have them in private so that you will actually have hearings instead of making partisan speeches.

[Pwns]

No thanks. Making them closed door is going from the frying pan to the fire.

[JohnStOnge]

The information garnered from the Comey hearings today could have been imparted in about 20 seconds. There's no indication that what Trump said about Obama wiretapping him is true and there are ongoing investigations into Russian efforts to influence our election and the question of whether or not anybody in the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians in that regard.

That's it. There was no need for hours and hours of political posturing by each side.

[CID1990]

Yes because codifying zero transparency in government is just what we need


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[Chizzang]

The Trump House took a bit of a beating this afternoon
No more than any usual Monday beatings since taking office
But note worthy in that the FBI Director was in front of congress

Saying Nope to Wire tapping
and Yup to the President being investigated for Russian shenanigans



Thankfully
White House press secretary Sean Spicer was able to point the finger at "everybody else"
as is the new official daily position of the current administration
The buck stops over there...

[Gil Dobie]

The information garnered from the Comey hearings today could have been imparted in about 20 seconds. There's no indication that what Trump said about Obama wiretapping him is true and there are ongoing investigations into Russian efforts to influence our election and the question of whether or not anybody in the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians in that regard.

That's it. There was no need for hours and hours of political posturing by each side.

No indication illegal wiretapping was false, nor was there indication any wiretapping was true. This is like robo-calls during the election, only you get to put a face to the farce.

[kalm]

The information garnered from the Comey hearings today could have been imparted in about 20 seconds. There's no indication that what Trump said about Obama wiretapping him is true and there are ongoing investigations into Russian efforts to influence our election and the question of whether or not anybody in the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians in that regard.

That's it. There was no need for hours and hours of political posturing by each side.

No indication illegal wiretapping was false, nor was there indication any wiretapping was true. This is like robo-calls during the election, only you get to put a face to the farce.

“The FBI and the Justice Department have no information to support’’ Trump’s wiretap assertions, Comey said.

Perhaps you meant to say Comey didn't supply evidence?

[Gil Dobie]

No indication illegal wiretapping was false, nor was there indication any wiretapping was true. This is like robo-calls during the election, only you get to put a face to the farce.

“The FBI and the Justice Department have no information to support’’ Trump’s wiretap assertions, Comey said.

Perhaps you meant to say Comey didn't supply evidence?

No, from what I read while on the recumbent bike at the club, he said a President, Obama in this case, could not request such a wiretap thru official channels. I didn't hear or may of missed him saying there was no wiretap from outside of official channels, or illegal wiretaps by anyone. If there was even a wiretap.

[CAA Flagship]

No indication illegal wiretapping was false, nor was there indication any wiretapping was true. This is like robo-calls during the election, only you get to put a face to the farce.

“The FBI and the Justice Department have no information to support’’ Trump’s wiretap assertions, Comey said.

Perhaps you meant to say Comey didn't supply evidence?

The claim was that wiretapping took place (forget about who did the wiretapping for a moment).
This can't be proven to be true without evidence. So it's false until evidence is found/provided.
"Wiretapping" is easy to prove that it happened. It's harder to prove that it didn't happen.
This will end in suspense.
Dems will shed more tears.
JSO will continue to complain.
Chizzy will continue to tip baristas.
WTAG will continue a life of celibacy.
Mr. T will continue to avoid escalators.
D1B will.......Hey, what about D1B?

[kalm]

Perhaps you meant to say Comey didn't supply evidence?

No, from what I read while on the recumbent bike at the club, he said a President, Obama in this case, could not request such a wiretap thru official channels. I didn't hear or may of missed him saying there was no wiretap from outside of official channels, or illegal wiretaps by anyone. If there was even a wiretap.

"I have no information that supports those tweets,'' said Comey, testifying at the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the 2016 campaign. "We have looked carefully inside the FBI,'' and agents found nothing to support those claims, he said.

The hearing comes amid the controversy fired up by Trump more than two weeks ago when he tweeted, without providing evidence, that President Barack Obama had ordered his phones tapped at Trump Tower.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

You said "no indication". When the Director of the FBI makes this statement, it seems like an indication to me.

Did Comey leave wiggle room in case evidence arises otherwise? I suppose...

[kalm]

Perhaps you meant to say Comey didn't supply evidence?

The claim was that wiretapping took place (forget about who did the wiretapping for a moment).
This can't be proven to be true without evidence. So it's false until evidence is found/provided.
"Wiretapping" is easy to prove that it happened. It's harder to prove that it didn't happen.
This will end in suspense.
Dems will shed more tears.
JSO will continue to complain.
Chizzy will continue to tip baristas.
WTAG will continue a life of celibacy.
Mr. T will continue to avoid escalators.
D1B will.......Hey, what about D1B?

Yeah! The FBI should have to prove that Trump wasn't tapped!

[Gil Dobie]

No, from what I read while on the recumbent bike at the club, he said a President, Obama in this case, could not request such a wiretap thru official channels. I didn't hear or may of missed him saying there was no wiretap from outside of official channels, or illegal wiretaps by anyone. If there was even a wiretap.

"I have no information that supports those tweets,'' said Comey, testifying at the House Intelligence Committee's first public hearing on Russian interference in the 2016 campaign. "We have looked carefully inside the FBI,'' and agents found nothing to support those claims, he said.

The hearing comes amid the controversy fired up by Trump more than two weeks ago when he tweeted, without providing evidence, that President Barack Obama had ordered his phones tapped at Trump Tower.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

You said "no indication". When the Director of the FBI makes this statement, it seems like an indication to me.

Did Comey leave wiggle room in case evidence arises otherwise? I suppose...

The article makes it sound like he only looked within the FBI, and that would be the legal wiretaps. So yes, wiggle room galore. Guess my recent jury duty changed the way I look at evidence or lack of evidence.

[kalm]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

You said "no indication". When the Director of the FBI makes this statement, it seems like an indication to me.

Did Comey leave wiggle room in case evidence arises otherwise? I suppose...

The article makes it sound like he only looked within the FBI, and that would be the legal wiretaps. So yes, wiggle room galore. Guess my recent jury duty changed the way I look at evidence or lack of evidence.

He's the FBI director, looking into allegations that the Clinton Administration wiretapped Trump Tower. I'm not sure whether he's suppose to start investigating other alleged wiretap perps based on a tweet from Trump.

The Trump administration has provided no evidence of the wiretapping (reminder, they're the ones making the allegation), and according to the House Intelligence Commitee...“We don't have any evidence that that took place,” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told reporters at a news conference in Washington. “I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower.”

http://www.ibtimes.com/no-evidence-back ... ys-2509073

Kind of indicates...

[CAA Flagship]

The claim was that wiretapping took place (forget about who did the wiretapping for a moment).
This can't be proven to be true without evidence. So it's false until evidence is found/provided.
"Wiretapping" is easy to prove that it happened. It's harder to prove that it didn't happen.
This will end in suspense.
Dems will shed more tears.
JSO will continue to complain.
Chizzy will continue to tip baristas.
WTAG will continue a life of celibacy.
Mr. T will continue to avoid escalators.
D1B will.......Hey, what about D1B?

Yeah! The FBI should have to prove that Trump wasn't tapped!

No. Not sure why you said that in response to what I said. I'm just pointing to what is happening and what will likely happen. The investigation will end, and nothing will happen.

[CAA Flagship]

The article makes it sound like he only looked within the FBI, and that would be the legal wiretaps. So yes, wiggle room galore. Guess my recent jury duty changed the way I look at evidence or lack of evidence.

He's the FBI director, looking into allegations that the Clinton Administration wiretapped Trump Tower. I'm not sure whether he's suppose to start investigating other alleged wiretap perps based on a tweet from Trump.

The Trump administration has provided no evidence of the wiretapping (reminder, they're the ones making the allegation), and according to the House Intelligence Commitee...“We don't have any evidence that that took place,” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told reporters at a news conference in Washington. “I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower.”

http://www.ibtimes.com/no-evidence-back ... ys-2509073

Kind of indicates...

Germans?

[Gil Dobie]

The article makes it sound like he only looked within the FBI, and that would be the legal wiretaps. So yes, wiggle room galore. Guess my recent jury duty changed the way I look at evidence or lack of evidence.

He's the FBI director, looking into allegations that the Clinton Administration wiretapped Trump Tower. I'm not sure whether he's suppose to start investigating other alleged wiretap perps based on a tweet from Trump.

The Trump administration has provided no evidence of the wiretapping (reminder, they're the ones making the allegation), and according to the House Intelligence Commitee...“We don't have any evidence that that took place,” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told reporters at a news conference in Washington. “I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower.”

http://www.ibtimes.com/no-evidence-back ... ys-2509073

Kind of indicates...

Comey said there was nothing within the FBI that they found.

Trump hasn't proven there was a wiretap.

I don't have enough evidence to say there was a wiretap, and I don't have enough evidence to say there wasn't. I wouldn't be surprised wither way.

[Skjellyfetti]

The FBI is leading a multiagency investigation of Trump and his associates. If one of the other agencies had Wiretapping Trump... they'd know about it.

If an agency was doing it without the FBI's knowledge... especially on orders from Obama... it's a huge story.

Trump has access to the information and can declassify it with no problem. He keeps vaguely saying there will be more information in two weeks (now a week). We'll see if he has anything... But, I really doubt it. If he did - why wait so long and make himself look foolish?

[CAA Flagship]

The FBI is leading a multiagency investigation of Trump and his associates. If one of the other agencies had Wiretapping Trump... they'd know about it.

If an agency was doing it without the FBI's knowledge... especially on orders from Obama... it's a huge story.

Trump has access to the information and can declassify it with no problem. He keeps vaguely saying there will be more information in two weeks (now a week). We'll see if he has anything... But, I really doubt it. If he did - why wait so long and make himself look foolish?

He has no ability to make the proper assessment of this.

[CID1990]

I've given up thinking there is a point where Trump will fish rather than cut bait.


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[Chizzang]

I've given up thinking there is a point where Trump will fish rather than cut bait.

Yes,
That is the nature of a pathological liar...

[Ibanez]

The FBI is leading a multiagency investigation of Trump and his associates. If one of the other agencies had Wiretapping Trump... they'd know about it.

If an agency was doing it without the FBI's knowledge... especially on orders from Obama... it's a huge story.

Trump has access to the information and can declassify it with no problem. He keeps vaguely saying there will be more information in two weeks (now a week). We'll see if he has anything... But, I really doubt it. If he did - why wait so long and make himself look foolish?

He's got to be hopping for something to distract us....luckily we have the MSM to keep Trump and his problems center stage.

[CID1990]

I've given up thinking there is a point where Trump will fish rather than cut bait.

Yes,
That is the nature of a pathological liar...

I actually had a sliver of hope - several weeks ago



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[Ivytalk]

Meanwhile, Judge Gorsuch is doing just fine in his hearings, despite the best efforts of Feinsteinbergwitz and Blumenthalbaumstein to derail him.

[Grizalltheway]

Meanwhile, Judge Gorsuch is doing just fine in his hearings, despite the best efforts of Feinsteinbergwitz and Blumenthalbaumstein to derail him.

Anti-Semite.

[CID1990]

Meanwhile, Judge Gorsuch is doing just fine in his hearings, despite the best efforts of Feinsteinbergwitz and Blumenthalbaumstein to derail him.

Diane Feinstein faceplanted so badly that she almost has to vote to confirm the guy. He's probably the most qualified guy for the job, and once he's on the court he'll be the most qualified guy there.


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