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Today J34 passed
Which means 100% of your internet data can be sold for profit by your ISP
Which includes and is not limited to
all of your personal data:
Age / Race / Income / email address / Local Home address /Phone Number / Personal website history
As well as accounts you hold etc.

Quite literally EVERYTHING about you can now legally be sold
This is called Making America Great baby !!!



All of the votes for it were cast by Republican Senators

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ ... _115_1.htm

Who are they selling to? Considering the number of data break-ins over the last 20 years I think any of us would be foolish to think that any of that information isn't already well into the public domain.

Savvy marketers have been able to compile much of this information already for years by buying lists from different places and matching up components to establish target demographics. Unless you live in a cave you willingly provide much of your personal info already just by participating in mobile banking, social networks, buying from Amazon, doing your taxes online, etc. What bothers you most - the one stop shopping this provides, the perception of sudden loss of anonymity, or the "for profit" piece?

Chizzang wrote:Today J34 passed
Which means 100% of your internet data can be sold for profit by your ISP
Which includes and is not limited to
all of your personal data:
Age / Race / Income / email address / Local Home address /Phone Number / Personal website history
As well as accounts you hold etc.

Quite literally EVERYTHING about you can now legally be sold
This is called Making America Great baby !!!



All of the votes for it were cast by Republican Senators

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ ... _115_1.htm

Not that it doesn't piss me off, but...

https://www.intelius.com/
http://www.accurint.com/

...and about fifty eleven million more out there.

ASUG8 wrote:Savvy marketers have been able to compile much of this information already for years by buying lists from different places and matching up components to establish target demographics. Unless you live in a cave you willingly provide much of your personal info already just by participating in mobile banking, social networks, buying from Amazon, doing your taxes online, etc. What bothers you most - the one stop shopping this provides, the perception of sudden loss of anonymity, or the "for profit" piece?

Can your doctor or your lawyer sell your information..?



Of course I am aware that our data can be sold when we don't protect it
But this keeps us from even being able to protect it at all

Obviously I knew the Republican apologists would line up (Thank you Baldy and ASUG8) and explain it away
But this goes beyond - and is a complete surrendering of personal rights to a corporate entity
it's indefensible regardless of your apologies for your senators complete lack of humanity

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Today J34 passed
Which means 100% of your internet data can be sold for profit by your ISP
Which includes and is not limited to
all of your personal data:
Age / Race / Income / email address / Local Home address /Phone Number / Personal website history
As well as accounts you hold etc.

Quite literally EVERYTHING about you can now legally be sold
This is called Making America Great baby !!!



All of the votes for it were cast by Republican Senators

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ ... _115_1.htm

Not that it doesn't piss me off, but...

https://www.intelius.com/
http://www.accurint.com/

...and about fifty eleven million more out there.

The info they have based off my name is so wrong. Not even close.

What a waste. WHile Republicans are doing this, Democrats are introducing bills that continue to waste our money by minting commemorative coins.


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... /1683?r=10
H.R.1683

To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins in commemoration of the National Purple Heart Hall of Honor.

Chizzang wrote:
Can your doctor or your lawyer sell your information..?



Of course I am aware that our data can be sold when we don't protect it
But this keeps us from even being able to protect it at all

Obviously I knew the Republican apologists would line up (Thank you Baldy and ASUG8) and explain it away
But this goes beyond - and is a complete surrendering of personal rights to a corporate entity
it's indefensible regardless of your apologies for your senators complete lack of humanity

Republican apologist? You must have missed all the times I'm on record with being a fiscal conservative/social moderate, but whatever narrative you need knock yourself out. Where was your uproar over NSA/IRS overreach last term?
We have HIPPA laws in place for doctors and attorney/client for attorneys. It's a non-sequitur.

Dude, I was taking database marketing classes in the mid-90's. This isn't really new news.

Ibanez wrote:

Baldy wrote:
Not that it doesn't piss me off, but...

https://www.intelius.com/
http://www.accurint.com/

...and about fifty eleven million more out there.

The info they have based off my name is so wrong. Not even close.

Not the governmental/law enforcement version.

Ibanez wrote:What a waste. WHile Republicans are doing this, Democrats are introducing bills that continue to waste our money by minting commemorative coins.


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... /1683?r=10
H.R.1683

To require the Secretary of the Treasury to mint coins in commemoration of the National Purple Heart Hall of Honor.

That's the real story to me too. These guys and gals can't seem to think up of a way to manage health care in the country, nor can they even act like anything close to adults when someone says *trigger warning* "Russia", but they can find they time to pass the most meaningless crap. But to partisan drama apologists like Chizzy, this is what government is all about, and they'll fight for it tooth and nail.

Baldy wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

The info they have based off my name is so wrong. Not even close.

Not the governmental/law enforcement version.

They have slightly better sources. Sites like the ones you posted scour the internet for any sort of public record, profile, etc.. that fit the parameter of Name, City, State, etc... According to the first one, i'm in my early 60s with some named Ja'Velle living in my home. Oh...and I live in Goose Creek. I've never lived in Goose Creek.

Wait, does this mean I am going to start getting email, text messages and robo calls?

If so..................cool I have been waiting for that spam for some time!!!

Ibanez wrote:

Baldy wrote: Not the governmental/law enforcement version.

They have slightly better sources. Sites like the ones you posted scour the internet for any sort of public record, profile, etc.. that fit the parameter of Name, City, State, etc... According to the first one, i'm in my early 60s with some named Ja'Velle living in my home. Oh...and I live in Goose Creek. I've never lived in Goose Creek.

They got at least one thing right....

GannonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:What a waste. WHile Republicans are doing this, Democrats are introducing bills that continue to waste our money by minting commemorative coins.


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... /1683?r=10
H.R.1683

That's the real story to me too. These guys and gals can't seem to think up of a way to manage health care in the country, nor can they even act like anything close to adults when someone says *trigger warning* "Russia", but they can find they time to pass the most meaningless crap. But to partisan drama apologists like Chizzy, this is what government is all about, and they'll fight for it tooth and nail.

They waste their time on resolutions affirming the right to vote for US Citizens. Why?

Chizzang wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:Savvy marketers have been able to compile much of this information already for years by buying lists from different places and matching up components to establish target demographics. Unless you live in a cave you willingly provide much of your personal info already just by participating in mobile banking, social networks, buying from Amazon, doing your taxes online, etc. What bothers you most - the one stop shopping this provides, the perception of sudden loss of anonymity, or the "for profit" piece?

Can your doctor or your lawyer sell your information..?



Of course I am aware that our data can be sold when we don't protect it
But this keeps us from even being able to protect it at all

Obviously I knew the Republican apologists would line up (Thank you Baldy and ASUG8) and explain it away
But this goes beyond - and is a complete surrendering of personal rights to a corporate entity
it's indefensible regardless of your apologies for your senators complete lack of humanity

Jeezus Christ, Princess...

What part of "it pisses me off" did you not understand?

After briefly looking at the Joint Resolution (the devil is in the details), it is only a statement by Congress that it does not agree with a PROPOSED Rule by the FCC.

This resolution did absolutely NOTHING to enable ISP's to sell your information....NOTHING.

Chizz.

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Can your doctor or your lawyer sell your information..?



Of course I am aware that our data can be sold when we don't protect it
But this keeps us from even being able to protect it at all

Obviously I knew the Republican apologists would line up (Thank you Baldy and ASUG8) and explain it away
But this goes beyond - and is a complete surrendering of personal rights to a corporate entity
it's indefensible regardless of your apologies for your senators complete lack of humanity

Jeezus Christ, Princess...

What part of "it pisses me off" did you not understand?

After briefly looking at the Joint Resolution (the devil is in the details), it is only a statement by Congress that it does not agree with a PROPOSED Rule by the FCC.

This resolution did absolutely NOTHING to enable ISP's to sell your information....NOTHING.

Chizz.

Heads up Baldy ... your wrong
J43 repeals the previous ruling that ISP could NOT sell your data
Now there is NOTHING legally against them selling your data

Read closer
There was a law against it
Now there is not



ISP are free to act on their own
Not legally obligated to protect

Senator Markey also issued a statement
“Consumers will have no ability to stop Internet service providers from invading their privacy and selling sensitive information about their health, finances, and children to advertisers, insurers, data brokers or others who can profit off of this personal information, all without their affirmative consent.”

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/ ... medium=rss

Be sure and shake your Senators hand Baldy
He loves people like you

Don't worry: You weren't using your private personal data anyway

You're

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:You're

derailed by a lurker

Medical records can't be emailed due to HIPPA with my consent, but Comcast can hand this shit out?

kalm wrote:Medical records can't be emailed due to HIPPA with my consent, but Comcast can hand this shit out?

Remember kalm:
as all the apologists here already pointed out
you can already kinda look up personal records... so there's that

and
Comcast has paid the most in Lobby money
So...why shouldn't they be rewarded with your personal data
to sell or distribute as they see fit..?

So if I run for office in 20 years my opponent's operatives will be able to see I visited Muslin hottub lesbo porn sites?

Chizzang wrote:

Baldy wrote:

Jeezus Christ, Princess...

What part of "it pisses me off" did you not understand?

After briefly looking at the Joint Resolution (the devil is in the details), it is only a statement by Congress that it does not agree with a PROPOSED Rule by the FCC.

This resolution did absolutely NOTHING to enable ISP's to sell your information....NOTHING.

Chizz.

Heads up Baldy ... your wrong
J43 repeals the previous ruling that ISP could NOT sell your data
Now there is NOTHING legally against them selling your data

Read closer
There was a law against it
Now there is not



ISP are free to act on their own
Not legally obligated to protect

Senator Markey also issued a statement
“Consumers will have no ability to stop Internet service providers from invading their privacy and selling sensitive information about their health, finances, and children to advertisers, insurers, data brokers or others who can profit off of this personal information, all without their affirmative consent.”

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/ ... medium=rss

Be sure and shake your Senators hand Baldy
He loves people like you

Don't worry: You weren't using your private personal data anyway

So this joint resolution reversed one of Obama's Midnight Regulations.

kalm wrote:Medical records can't be emailed due to HIPPA with my consent, but Comcast can hand this shit out?

Why did you give your medical records to Comcast in the first place?

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote:Medical records can't be emailed due to HIPPA with my consent, but Comcast can hand this shit out?

Why did you give your medical records to Comcast in the first place?

Playing dumb won't get you out of this, crony capitalism lover...

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote: Why did you give your medical records to Comcast in the first place?

Playing dumb won't get you out of this, crony capitalism lover...

Says the guy who apparently gave his medical records to Comcast.