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Just wondering. seems like China is building up forces on the border and we have a AirCraft carrier group on way.

Nope, but I think the attack on Syria this week and having a US fleet hauling ass across the Pacific might have little Kimmie thinking twice about firing off any noocrear capabare missires this week. I wouldn't be surprised if we take one out just to demonstrate the capabilities of the Aegis system.

The composition of the battle group suggests that we are going to swat one of Kim's missiles out of the air to make a point

Ultimately it is China that is going to have to deal with Kim, and I think they just might

Kim Jr. threatened to use nukes...
What an absolute retarded thing to do


China will not tolerate that type of nonsense from their underlings
Bad move... Don't piss of Big Red Mama

Been reading a few editorials from the official and semi-official Chinese new media over the past couple of days. China seem to be washing its hand of North Korea.

Lil' Kim must feel like he's on an island right now.

Last I heard was that China has 175,000 troop on the border and sent the NK's coals ships home full.

I am certain he is going to fire the missile......heavy prep mode right now

andy7171 wrote:Last I heard was that China has 175,000 troop on the border and sent the NK's coals ships home full.

Ho Li Fuk

GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:I am certain he is going to fire the missile......heavy prep mode right now

Fairure to raunch?

Diabetes might do the job for us and China


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andy7171 wrote:Just wondering. seems like China is building up forces on the border and we have a AirCraft carrier group on way.

We may have to if this investigation into Trump's ties to Russian banks won't go away.

Now the Chinese media editorials are threatening a military solution to destroy NK's nuke program before the U.S. is able to.

They are also hinting that the U.S. will decapitate the NK leadership with air power, then China will launch an invasion of NK.

Those 150k Chinese soldiers on the Yalu ain't there to process NK refugees.

Despite suspicions of China by many Americans, they've obviously been a great economic partner and a fairly steady ally. And our relationship has gone back almost 200 years, mostly in a good way.

I think China and Russia understand that having NK as a nuclear border state isn't in their best interest and that the situation needs to be remedied before it gets worse. If this Administration can work with China, Russia, Japan, and South Korea to take care of the situation, then I'm all up for a preemptively strike that falls the regime...as long as it's a well thought out plan. My concerns are the implications of an attack:

First of all, what's the human toll?

Second, what's the economic toll, both abroad and at home? If the South Korean and Japanese economies get severely depressed in the process, the immediate economic implications for the United States and globally are going to be large. But can the long-term investment into rebuilding North Korea outweigh the short-term economic losses? Can North Korea eventually approach the South's growth, with an economic engine in which globally benefits people?

Third, what's the domestic societal implications? We've seen the societal and political tolls the War on Terror has on America; is our population ready for another war (even though it may not be as drawn out)?

And fourth, what's the long-term global implications? Which nation will gain control of North Korea? South Korea will claim it as their land, but wouldn't China want something too? Would South Korea be fine with that? Can South Korea and China be a united occupying force? And more worryingly, would Russia allow China to increase it's global sphere of influence in the region? Does the fall of North Korea lead to something more dangerous, possibly catastrophic, down the road?

Good God, save your keyboard man. As was said before you, North Korea won't be joining South Korea singing Kumbaya in a unified democratic Korea. Everybody wants the Kim dynasty gone, but it'll basically become a Chinese colony once they're removed from power. This isn't Berlin Wall Part 2.

∞∞∞ wrote:Despite suspicions of China by many Americans, they've obviously been a great economic partner and a fairly steady ally. And our relationship has gone back almost 200 years, mostly in a good way.

I think China and Russia understand that having NK as a nuclear border state isn't in their best interest and that the situation needs to be remedied before it gets worse. If this Administration can work with China, Russia, Japan, and South Korea to take care of the situation, then I'm all up for a preemptively strike that falls the regime...as long as it's a well thought out plan. My concerns are the implications of an attack:

First of all, what's the human toll?

Second, what's the economic toll, both abroad and at home? If the South Korean and Japanese economies get severely depressed in the process, the immediate economic implications for the United States and globally are going to be large. But can the long-term investment into rebuilding North Korea outweigh the short-term economic losses? Can North Korea eventually approach the South's growth, with an economic engine in which globally benefits people?

Third, what's the domestic societal implications? We've seen the societal and political tolls the War on Terror has on America; is our population ready for another war (even though it may not be as drawn out)?

And fourth, what's the long-term global implications? Which nation will gain control of North Korea? South Korea will claim it as their land, but wouldn't China want something too? Would South Korea be fine with that? Can South Korea and China be a united occupying force? And more worryingly, would Russia allow China to increase it's global sphere of influence in the region? Does the fall of North Korea lead to something more dangerous, possibly catastrophic, down the road?

Regime Change and Nation Building? Jesus, have we not learned that that doesn't work out in our favor? Let its allies, China and Russia, deal with them. CHina and Russia have been growing tired of NorKors shit (look at public opinion in those countries as well as statements from the Gov't). NorKors #1 trading partner is China. Let them duke it out. If NorKor trys to attack one our allies, we should take action. But let's leave the pre-emptive strikes alone.


Besides, I thought Democrats were against preemptive strikes...?

CitadelGrad wrote: Those 150k Chinese soldiers on the Yalu ain't there to process NK refugees.

Are there 150k Chinese soldiers on the Yalu?

Are Chinese Troops Massing at the North Korean Border?
The story spread in bond markets in New York and Asia on Monday. China, according to a rumor that circulated largely via social media, was "massing" 150,000 troops on its border with North Korea. The timing of the alleged troop movements, coupled with reports of possible U.S.-China discussions of what to do about Pyongyang’s nuclear arsenal, was cited by analysts as one reason interest rates on bonds were creeping up.

Was there any substance to the rumor? Not according to senior U.S. military and intelligence officials. There was no "massing." As many as 250,000 Chinese troops are always operating in northeastern China, and the U.S. did not see any sign Beijing had moved them closer to the Yalu River, which separates North Korea from China.

Financial analysts were not surprised. Fake financial news has a longer history that any other kind of false reporting. Some people repeat rumors because they believe them to be fact. Others, however, may be tempted by the knowledge that "news" of impending doom can move markets. There is money to be made before the news is proven true or false. The advent of social media and high-speed trading just adds to the possibilities.

One Pentagon official told NBC News, in language too profane to publish, that that's exactly what he thought happened with the China troop tale.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/are-chinese ... no-n745611

If shit was really about to hit the fan tomorrow, would Trump really be going to mar-a-lago for a long weekend?

This is probably just the same kind of thing they do every spring. But, Kim sure appreciates all the special attention.

Skjellyfetti wrote:If **** was really about to hit the fan tomorrow, would Trump really be going to mar-a-lago for a long weekend?

This is probably just the same kind of thing they do every spring. But, Kim sure appreciates all the special attention.

I wouldn't bet against it

Are Chinese Troops Massing at the North Korean Border?

The story spread in bond markets in New York and Asia on Monday. China, according to a rumor that circulated largely via social media, was "massing" 150,000 troops on its border with North Korea. The timing of the alleged troop movements, coupled with reports of possible U.S.-China discussions of what to do about Pyongyang’s nuclear arsenal, was cited by analysts as one reason interest rates on bonds were creeping up.

Was there any substance to the rumor? Not according to senior U.S. military and intelligence officials. There was no "massing." As many as 250,000 Chinese troops are always operating in northeastern China, and the U.S. did not see any sign Beijing had moved them closer to the Yalu River, which separates North Korea from China.

Financial analysts were not surprised. Fake financial news has a longer history that any other kind of false reporting. Some people repeat rumors because they believe them to be fact. Others, however, may be tempted by the knowledge that "news" of impending doom can move markets. There is money to be made before the news is proven true or false. The advent of social media and high-speed trading just adds to the possibilities.

One Pentagon official told NBC News, in language too profane to publish, that that's exactly what he thought happened with the China troop tale.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/are-chin...der-no-n745611

andy7171 wrote:Last I heard was that China has 175,000 troop on the border and sent the NK's coals ships home full.

I wouldn't worry unless you start hearing the bugles


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VictorG wrote:Are Chinese Troops Massing at the North Korean Border?

The story spread in bond markets in New York and Asia on Monday. China, according to a rumor that circulated largely via social media, was "massing" 150,000 troops on its border with North Korea. The timing of the alleged troop movements, coupled with reports of possible U.S.-China discussions of what to do about Pyongyang’s nuclear arsenal, was cited by analysts as one reason interest rates on bonds were creeping up.

Was there any substance to the rumor? Not according to senior U.S. military and intelligence officials. There was no "massing." As many as 250,000 Chinese troops are always operating in northeastern China, and the U.S. did not see any sign Beijing had moved them closer to the Yalu River, which separates North Korea from China.

Financial analysts were not surprised. Fake financial news has a longer history that any other kind of false reporting. Some people repeat rumors because they believe them to be fact. Others, however, may be tempted by the knowledge that "news" of impending doom can move markets. There is money to be made before the news is proven true or false. The advent of social media and high-speed trading just adds to the possibilities.

One Pentagon official told NBC News, in language too profane to publish, that that's exactly what he thought happened with the China troop tale.

http://www.nbcnews.com/card/are-chin...der-no-n745611

Look up about 3 posts before yours:
http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 3#p1119046

Ibanez wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:Despite suspicions of China by many Americans, they've obviously been a great economic partner and a fairly steady ally. And our relationship has gone back almost 200 years, mostly in a good way.

I think China and Russia understand that having NK as a nuclear border state isn't in their best interest and that the situation needs to be remedied before it gets worse. If this Administration can work with China, Russia, Japan, and South Korea to take care of the situation, then I'm all up for a preemptively strike that falls the regime...as long as it's a well thought out plan. My concerns are the implications of an attack:

First of all, what's the human toll?

Second, what's the economic toll, both abroad and at home? If the South Korean and Japanese economies get severely depressed in the process, the immediate economic implications for the United States and globally are going to be large. But can the long-term investment into rebuilding North Korea outweigh the short-term economic losses? Can North Korea eventually approach the South's growth, with an economic engine in which globally benefits people?

Third, what's the domestic societal implications? We've seen the societal and political tolls the War on Terror has on America; is our population ready for another war (even though it may not be as drawn out)?

And fourth, what's the long-term global implications? Which nation will gain control of North Korea? South Korea will claim it as their land, but wouldn't China want something too? Would South Korea be fine with that? Can South Korea and China be a united occupying force? And more worryingly, would Russia allow China to increase it's global sphere of influence in the region? Does the fall of North Korea lead to something more dangerous, possibly catastrophic, down the road?

Regime Change and Nation Building? Jesus, have we not learned that that doesn't work out in our favor? Let its allies, China and Russia, deal with them. CHina and Russia have been growing tired of NorKors shit (look at public opinion in those countries as well as statements from the Gov't). NorKors #1 trading partner is China. Let them duke it out. If NorKor trys to attack one our allies, we should take action. But let's leave the pre-emptive strikes alone.


Besides, I thought Democrats were against preemptive strikes...?

I noticed that too.

Reminds me a lot of the "let's take out Sadaam" talk from the global powers at the time that move was made by W. Worked out great for us.

Let China deal with this...besides I think they have to lest they risk a SK invasion that puts US backed troops on their doorstep.

No rebuilding of NK will be done by any other than China and South Korea

Bet your sweet ass that China already has a contingency plan- we will not be allowed in

(and the world police will gnash their teeth)


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I don't think so...If the ROK's unify the peninsula, the US will be out in pretty quick order; there wouldn't be any legitimate reason for the US to stay that the ROK leadership could sell to their people.

SDHornet wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Regime Change and Nation Building? Jesus, have we not learned that that doesn't work out in our favor? Let its allies, China and Russia, deal with them. CHina and Russia have been growing tired of NorKors **** (look at public opinion in those countries as well as statements from the Gov't). NorKors #1 trading partner is China. Let them duke it out. If NorKor trys to attack one our allies, we should take action. But let's leave the pre-emptive strikes alone.


Besides, I thought Democrats were against preemptive strikes...?

I noticed that too.

Reminds me a lot of the "let's take out Sadaam" talk from the global powers at the time that move was made by W. Worked out great for us.

Let China deal with this...besides I think they have to lest they risk a SK invasion that puts US backed troops on their doorstep.