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Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:05 pm
by Skjellyfetti
https://8values.github.io/

I had a lot of "unsure / neutral" answers because the question wasn't nuanced enough. But, still I thought it was a good quiz.

I got Libertarian Socialism. No surprise. :thumb:
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Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 2:25 pm
by CAA Flagship
I'm a Moderate Conservative :coffee:

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:02 pm
by Ivytalk
Skjellyfetti wrote:https://8values.github.io/

I had a lot of "unsure / neutral" answers because the question wasn't nuanced enough. But, still I thought it was a good quiz.

I got Libertarian Socialism. No surprise. :thumb:
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That makes it a bullshit quiz. You're about as libertarian as Liz Warren.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 4:14 pm
by Skjellyfetti
There's more than one kind of libertarian. I'm libertarian on most social issues, civil liberties, and foreign policy.

Yeah, I'm not at all an economic libertarian... and, that's why it gave me libertarian socialism. In the past decade economic libertarianism has gotten most of the attention in opposition to Obama... but, it's not the only part of libertarianism.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:36 pm
by CID1990
Skjellyfetti wrote:There's more than one kind of libertarian. I'm libertarian on most social issues, civil liberties, and foreign policy.

Yeah, I'm not at all an economic libertarian... and, that's why it gave me libertarian socialism. In the past decade economic libertarianism has gotten most of the attention in opposition to Obama... but, it's not the only part of libertarianism.
I believe you are confusing libertarianism with something else: egalitarianism (which relies largely on force of government in practice)

Here's your litmus test:

I'm guessing that you are in favor of the state allowing same sex marriages, right? (you know this is a trick question)


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Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:44 pm
by Skjellyfetti
CID1990 wrote: I'm guessing that you are in favor of the state allowing same sex marriages, right? (you know this is a trick question)
I'm in favor of the state getting out of the marriage business altogether. :butt:

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:56 pm
by JohnStOnge
Wow. It says I'm a Neo-Liberal.

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Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:02 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Yeah, don't let the "liberalism" part of it throw you off, though. Neoliberalism isn't the same thing as the "liberal" that's bandied about nowadays.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:19 pm
by 93henfan
I'm a centrist:

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Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:37 pm
by Ivytalk
I got Classical Liberal Elitist Retiree. Spot on. Who knew?

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:44 pm
by BDKJMU
I took it twice.
https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 4.2&s=26.8
Economic Axis: Market
Diplomatic Axis: Nationalist the 1st time, Patriotic the 2nd.
Civil Axis: Moderate
Societal Axis: Traditional

I'm calling BS on the Neo-Con both times..

Re: Another political test

Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:53 pm
by Pwns
I got the jingoistic centrist result sort of like 93.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:23 pm
by JohnStOnge
BTW I think "Libertarian Socialism" is an oxymoron.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 4:47 pm
by Vidav
Libertarian Socialism

Re: Another political test

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 5:09 pm
by JohnStOnge
Well, I looked up "Neoliberalism" and I don't think it's what most people think of as "liberalism."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp
Neoliberalism has been used by various scholars, critics and analysts, mainly referring to an upspring of 19th century ideas connected to economic liberalism that began in the 1970s and 1980s. These ideals advocate for extensive economic liberalization and policies that extend the rights and abilities of the private sector over the public sector, specifically the shutting down of state and government power over the economy. Neoliberalism supports fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, privatization and greatly reduced government spending.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 5:42 pm
by Ivytalk
JohnStOnge wrote:Well, I looked up "Neoliberalism" and I don't think it's what most people think of as "liberalism."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp
Neoliberalism has been used by various scholars, critics and analysts, mainly referring to an upspring of 19th century ideas connected to economic liberalism that began in the 1970s and 1980s. These ideals advocate for extensive economic liberalization and policies that extend the rights and abilities of the private sector over the public sector, specifically the shutting down of state and government power over the economy. Neoliberalism supports fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, privatization and greatly reduced government spending.
And you enthusiastically backed Hillary Clinton, who supported none of those things.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:03 am
by CID1990
Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote: I'm guessing that you are in favor of the state allowing same sex marriages, right? (you know this is a trick question)
I'm in favor of the state getting out of the marriage business altogether. :butt:
You pass the test


But I'm not done with you yet

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:16 am
by CID1990
I'm a classical liberal. I accept that in the context of the Enlightenment.

Or maybe it didn't know where to put me.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:36 am
by Ivytalk
CID1990 wrote:I'm a classical liberal. I accept that in the context of the Enlightenment.

Or maybe it didn't know where to put me.
My brother from another mother. :thumb:

Neaux homeaux (in honor of the French runoff).

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:09 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Well, I looked up "Neoliberalism" and I don't think it's what most people think of as "liberalism."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp
And you enthusiastically backed Hillary Clinton, who supported none of those things.
Her donors supported many of them. :coffee:

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:13 am
by kalm
I got the same label as Skelly although a little more to the political right on the issues.

The question of whether corporations pose a bigger threat to liberty than government was a good one.

They both pose a threat but I think the threat of corporations is signicantly under-appreciated by the righties.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:14 am
by Ibanez
JohnStOnge wrote:Wow. It says I'm a Neo-Liberal.

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No shit. We've been telling you this


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Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:36 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And you enthusiastically backed Hillary Clinton, who supported none of those things.
Her donors supported many of them. :coffee:
No, they didn't. Read the list again. Her donors paid for access and specific favors, not TPP and balanced budgets.

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:37 am
by UNI88
JohnStOnge wrote:Well, I looked up "Neoliberalism" and I don't think it's what most people think of as "liberalism."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/neoliberalism.asp
Neoliberalism has been used by various scholars, critics and analysts, mainly referring to an upspring of 19th century ideas connected to economic liberalism that began in the 1970s and 1980s. These ideals advocate for extensive economic liberalization and policies that extend the rights and abilities of the private sector over the public sector, specifically the shutting down of state and government power over the economy. Neoliberalism supports fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, privatization and greatly reduced government spending.
So essentially, Neoliberalism is to Liberalism what Neoconservatism is to Conservatism. Yet you voted for Dubya, McCain and Hillary (all neoconservatives not true conservatives) and call yourself a conservative?

Re: Another political test

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 11:58 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Her donors supported many of them. :coffee:
No, they didn't. Read the list again. Her donors paid for access and specific favors, not TPP and balanced budgets.
Yes they did and so did Hillary. Sorry to burst your bubble.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-3 ... ed-hillary