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They opened the line on him making his full term back in January if I remember right.


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/17/trump-im ... sites.html

UK bookies are the only ones I've seen reported, which now have a 55% that Trump won't make it through 1st term.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... akers.html

And the same UK bookies were way off on the 2015 UK elections.

And the same UK bookies were way off on Brexit. Couple days before vote:
EU referendum: Remain '80 per cent likely' to win European Union vote, as Leave odds lengthen
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 93296.html

2 weeks before US election
85% chance of Clinton winning the US election, say UK betting firms
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/26/85-chanc ... firms.html
(And most had Clinton 80-90 the day of the elction. Ladbrokes was 75%).

3 times within the last 2 years on major political betting the UK betting firms were absolutely hammered on being way wrong. I wouldn't put any stock in their odds..

The problem is that if he IS impeached then removed from office we'll get that total phony Pence as President. There are no good outcomes here.

Nah, as far as policy - Pence is an ideologue (while Trump is not) and I don't agree with Pence on much at all. I think Republicans would accomplish far more of their agenda with Pence (and that would suck).

But, STILL... I'd rather have Pence. Trump is reckless and incompetent. We really can't afford to have Mango Mussolini much longer.

Pence, by affiliating himself with Trump, has shown that he is EXTREMELY dishonest.

JohnStOnge wrote:The problem is that if he IS impeached then removed from office we'll get that total phony Pence as President. There are no good outcomes here.

Yeah, John, too bad we can't have your boy Chuck Schumer in there.

Ivytalk wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:The problem is that if he IS impeached then removed from office we'll get that total phony Pence as President. There are no good outcomes here.

Yeah, John, too bad we can't have your boy Chuck Schumer in there.

As horrible as that would be that would be it'd be better than Trump or Pence. And I say that as someone who never voted for a Democratic candidate for President going back into the 1970s until 2016.

What's going on with the Republican Party right now is just horrifying. There's no sugar coating it. It's awful. It's time to consign the Republican Party to the ash heap of history and hope some better check on the Democratic Party can be developed.

Pence also has a role in this and we'll have to see how it plays out.

He was head of the transition team. He claimed that he didn't know Flynn was lobbying for a foreign government and paid by Russia. However, he was told this November 18, 2016.

https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/n ... nflicts-of

And he told them himself that he was under investigation by the FBI
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/u ... 68SeAwaEO2

JohnStOnge wrote:Pence, by affiliating himself with Trump, has shown that he is EXTREMELY dishonest.

Are you just realizing that politicians are blood sucking ticks???


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JohnStOnge wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: Yeah, John, too bad we can't have your boy Chuck Schumer in there.

As horrible as that would be that would be it'd be better than Trump or Pence.

What the fuck is it that you are concerned about with regard to a President?
Name the policies that affect you and America as a whole that you see as important.

I laughing at all of the "Make America Great Again Crowd. You fell for this Bull shyt. Just like the Germans did in 1933. Repukes are a bunch of Sheep. Keep dreaming of 1955, but we will never return to that era.

mrklean wrote:I laughing at all of the "Make America Great Again Crowd. You fell for this Bull shyt. Just like the Germans did in 1933. Repukes are a bunch of Sheep. Keep dreaming of 1955, but we will never return to that era.

Just like the dems did in '08 and '12 with all the "Hope and Change" bullshit. Dems are a bunch of sheep. Right?

If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

AZGrizFan wrote:

mrklean wrote:I laughing at all of the "Make America Great Again Crowd. You fell for this Bull shyt. Just like the Germans did in 1933. Repukes are a bunch of Sheep. Keep dreaming of 1955, but we will never return to that era.

Just like the dems did in '08 and '12 with all the "Hope and Change" bullshit. Dems are a bunch of sheep. Right?

But we won.....TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Donks basically running around with Mike Pence for president signs is funny.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

domestic tranquility?

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

You mean "we the people" will be upset that our laws are being followed? That doesn't sound patriotic.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: Yeah, John, too bad we can't have your boy Chuck Schumer in there.

As horrible as that would be that would be it'd be better than Trump or Pence. And I say that as someone who never voted for a Democratic candidate for President going back into the 1970s until 2016.

What's going on with the Republican Party right now is just horrifying. There's no sugar coating it. It's awful. It's time to consign the Republican Party to the ash heap of history and hope some better check on the Democratic Party can be developed.

Schumer is by FAR the worst politician of the bunch.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

The minority that voted for him..?

Chizzang wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

The minority that voted for him..?

The majority in most states voted for him. So what he didnt win California or New York they dont matter anyway those states are just there to take the big punches so the real America doesnt have to.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

Nah, you'll just do a whole lot of complaining and conservative snowflaking on social media and message boards

Silenoz wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

Nah, you'll just do a whole lot of complaining and conservative snowflaking on social media and message boards

Yeah that's it......wouldnt want to "infringe" on the market you guys have cornered.

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Silenoz wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If they impeach Trump, they are going to have to deal with the consequences from "We the People"

"They" wont like what happens.

Nah, you'll just do a whole lot of complaining and conservative snowflaking on social media and message boards

Sean Hannity has lately turned into this guy

Hannity has always been that bitch

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