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Gotta get Ivy's feed on this - Harvard's revoked the acceptances of at least 10 previously approved applicants based upon their participation in an online message group that included the posting of potentially offensive memes. Not content with eliminating dissent or potentially triggering views on campus, Harvard's now trying to make sure those folks never even make it to campus in the first place.

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/ ... -chat.html

Disappointing, but not really surprising.

Well you don't see the Harvard of the Palouse pulling these speech nazi shenanigans.

kalm wrote:Well you don't see the Harvard of the Palouse pulling these speech nazi shenanigans.

Hey kalm, I watched the 30 for 30 on the Kirkland team winning the LLWS in 1982. I'm kinda surprised I don't really remember that event as it was a big deal and something I probably would have watched. The big pitcher ended up playing ball at EWU for a year. Must have been around the time you were there?

89Hen wrote:Disappointing, but not really surprising.

Disappointing?

Students inside the group were sharing memes and images that made fun of sexual assault, the Holocaust, and the deaths of the children, according to the student publication. The messages also included jokes about ethnic or racial groups, and one person called the imaginary hanging of a Mexican child “piñata time.”

Little brats got exactly what they deserved. Free speech! Yeah! Guess what, Einsteins, it has consequences.

It's a private school not a city community college...
They can pick and choose as they please

Why would this be confusing ..?

Yeah, these kind of postings prevent you from getting hired from a job or get you fired. Not the brightest bulbs.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Yeah, these kind of postings prevent you from getting hired from a job or get you fired. Not the brightest bulbs.

In a private group chat? I don't think so.

89Hen wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Yeah, these kind of postings prevent you from getting hired from a job or get you fired. Not the brightest bulbs.

In a private group chat? I don't think so.

From the article, it said, in order to gain admittance to the private group chat, that they first had to post something in the public chat for everyone to see that would be equal to what they would post in the private chat (basically proving their worth, if you will). If it was solely private, I'd be inclined to agree with you. Where it's murky is that they didn't pull the acceptances of everyone who did this, only a few. How did they decide who would be the sacrificial lambs and who wouldn't?

GannonFan wrote:

89Hen wrote: In a private group chat? I don't think so.

From the article, it said, in order to gain admittance to the private group chat, that they first had to post something in the public chat for everyone to see that would be equal to what they would post in the private chat (basically proving their worth, if you will). If it was solely private, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

So the posts that got them in trouble were those first posts in the public chat? Or are you saying by posting something like "Can't wait until fall." in the public to gain access made a liar out of them?

89Hen wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
From the article, it said, in order to gain admittance to the private group chat, that they first had to post something in the public chat for everyone to see that would be equal to what they would post in the private chat (basically proving their worth, if you will). If it was solely private, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

So the posts that got them in trouble were those first posts in the public chat? Or are you saying by posting something like "Can't wait until fall." in the public to gain access made a liar out of them?

I'm just gleaning from the article - they had to prove their mettle in the public forum with an off-color meme that was considered worthy to get into the private group, where there would be plenty more postings. They apparently then sent letters to those involved that they knew they were involved and that they had to fess up on what they had posted privately. Some did, some didn't. Some got acceptances retracted, others didn't.

GannonFan wrote:

89Hen wrote: So the posts that got them in trouble were those first posts in the public chat? Or are you saying by posting something like "Can't wait until fall." in the public to gain access made a liar out of them?

I'm just gleaning from the article - they had to prove their mettle in the public forum with an off-color meme that was considered worthy to get into the private group, where there would be plenty more postings. They apparently then sent letters to those involved that they knew they were involved and that they had to fess up on what they had posted privately. Some did, some didn't. Some got acceptances retracted, others didn't.

Got it, but "they had to fess up on what they had posted privately".... they (Harvard) can eat a dick.

If only the Catholic Church had used such nefarious means of subterfuge to find the child molesters...

Does anyone actually trust that the memes were really over the line? This is a pantywaist Ivy League school we're talking about. What they consider over the line and what most people consider over the line are completely different.

"Making fun of sexual assault" for all we know could be making fun of the "teach men not to rape" silliness.

This stuff - along with many other things - are a reason I am not overly impressed whenever I meet someone with an Ivy League degree.

GannonFan wrote:

89Hen wrote: In a private group chat? I don't think so.

From the article, it said, in order to gain admittance to the private group chat, that they first had to post something in the public chat for everyone to see that would be equal to what they would post in the private chat (basically proving their worth, if you will). If it was solely private, I'd be inclined to agree with you. Where it's murky is that they didn't pull the acceptances of everyone who did this, only a few. How did they decide who would be the sacrificial lambs and who wouldn't?

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Chizzang wrote:If only the Catholic Church had used such nefarious means of subterfuge to find the child molesters...

What, use the internet and troll the message boards for bad conduct? Prior to the 90's when the internet was created?

houndawg wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
From the article, it said, in order to gain admittance to the private group chat, that they first had to post something in the public chat for everyone to see that would be equal to what they would post in the private chat (basically proving their worth, if you will). If it was solely private, I'd be inclined to agree with you. Where it's murky is that they didn't pull the acceptances of everyone who did this, only a few. How did they decide who would be the sacrificial lambs and who wouldn't?

Parents past donations

Tru dat.

Not totally clear how Harvard admissions people "ferreted out" the identity of the second-level kids that it eventually terminated. My take on this is is that Harvard's overweening self-regard had something to do with it: the precious little overachievers that we accept would never get involved in something as anti-PC as that. Leave those riff-raff to Penn and Cornell. With a 5.2% acceptance rate and a large waiting list, they'll find others to fill those slots if they have to.

I'm beyond caring about stuff like this. Harvard's in my rear-view mirror. I haven't sent the school a dime since 2005, and politics has a lot to do with it.

Pwns wrote:Does anyone actually trust that the memes were really over the line? This is a pantywaist Ivy League school we're talking about. What they consider over the line and what most people consider over the line are completely different.

"Making fun of sexual assault" for all we know could be making fun of the "teach men not to rape" silliness.

This stuff - along with many other things - are a reason I am not overly impressed whenever I meet someone with an Ivy League degree.

You're such a snob, Pwns. Get over yourself.

Ivytalk wrote:

Pwns wrote:Does anyone actually trust that the memes were really over the line? This is a pantywaist Ivy League school we're talking about. What they consider over the line and what most people consider over the line are completely different.

"Making fun of sexual assault" for all we know could be making fun of the "teach men not to rape" silliness.

This stuff - along with many other things - are a reason I am not overly impressed whenever I meet someone with an Ivy League degree.

You're such a snob, Pwns. Get over yourself.

I believe you're confusing 'snobbery" with the rantings of a middling GSU grad with an inferiority complex
and seriously, how the hell else is a school with about 5,000 capacity and 35,000 applications supposed to weed out the weirdo's and nuts ..?

Maybe they're just trying to make sure they don't have a Yale snowflake episode.

89Hen wrote:Maybe they're just trying to make sure they don't have a Yale snowflake episode.

The relevant snowflakes are in the admissions office.

Chizzang wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: You're such a snob, Pwns. Get over yourself.

I believe you're confusing 'snobbery" with the rantings of a middling GSU grad with an inferiority complex
and seriously, how the hell else is a school with about 5,000 capacity and 35,000 applications supposed to weed out the weirdo's and nuts ..?

Why would someone from GSU have an inferiority complex?

Did you know? GSU plays football in FBS.

Did you know ? GSU has the world's largest tick collection.

Ivy League schools have neither of these


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Other than Ivy, there appear to be a lot of crooks that have attended Harvard.

Gil Dobie wrote:Other than Ivy, there appear to be a lot of crooks that have attended Harvard.

Mostly graduates of their MBA program.