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Report: The Trumps allegedly funneled thousands in kids' cancer charity donations into the Trump Organization

The Eric Trump Foundation apparently paid President Donald Trump's businesses $1.2 million between 2007 and 2015 for expenses related to the foundation's annual charity event at the Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, New York, according to a new Forbes report.

Eric Trump told Forbes that the Trump Organization, which he now runs with his older brother, allowed his non-profit foundation to use the golf course for free and covered most expenses for the golf tournament.

But IRS filings apparently indicate otherwise.

According to Forbes' research, the Trump National Golf Club charged the Eric Trump Foundation tens — and later hundreds — of thousands of dollars each year for the one-day event, while donors were led to believe that a much bigger chunk of their money would go directly to the fundraiser's chosen cause, children's cancer research.

According to sources involved in the event, while the Trump Organization initially covered the expenses, it was Donald Trump himself who ordered his for-profit organization to begin charging his son's foundation for the event.

"Mr. Trump had a cow. He flipped. He was like, 'We're donating all of this stuff, and there's no paper trail? No credit?' And he went nuts. He said, 'I don't care if it's my son or not — everybody gets billed,'" Ian Gillule, the former membership and marketing director at Trump National Westchester, told Forbes.

And the amount that the Trump Organization charged the foundation for the event skyrocketed in recent years, far exceeding standard costs for similar events, according to golf charity experts Forbes interviewed.

Here some of the findings from Forbes' report:

- Eric Trump has raised $11 million for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital through his foundation, most of which came from the annual golf tournament, and another $5 million in conjunction with other organizations.

- The first four yearly tournaments cost about $50,000 each. But in 2011, the costs jumped from $46,000 to $142,000. After dropping back down to $59,000 in 2012, the costs again rose to $230,000 in 2013, $242,000 in 2014, and $322,000 in 2015.

- More than $500,000 of the money raised by the Eric Trump Foundation was actually re-donated to other charities, including four groups that later paid to host golf tournaments at Trump properties.

- In one instance, the Donald J. Trump Foundation donated $100,000 to the Eric Trump Foundation, money that was then redirected to Trump's businesses to pay for the golf tournament costs.

- According to golf tournament experts and former employees at Trump's golf club, there is no way to explain how costs could have amounted to $322,000.

- By 2010, nine of the 17 board members of the Eric Trump Foundation were employees of, or had a financial stake in, the Trump Organization. "The foundation had become a de facto subsidiary of the Trump Organization," Forbes wrote.

- If the reports are accurate, this activity violates federal and state law.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... ganization



The original Forbes article is more in-depth. But, this was a TLDR version.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... -business/
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Nice Thread Title.
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Just when you think Trump and his spawn can't sink any lower...
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dbackjon wrote:Just when you think Trump and his spawn can't sink any lower...
They can't sink any lower. The Clintons occupy that spot. :mrgreen:
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What kind of a sucker would give charity money to Trump? :?
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Pwns wrote:What kind of a sucker would give charity money to Trump? :?
Maybe the same kind of philanthropies that occupy his cabinet?
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Whew!

I was worried the media and the public weren't concerned about sleazy financial activities anymore
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kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:What kind of a sucker would give charity money to Trump? :?
Maybe the same kind of philanthropies that occupy his cabinet?
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The Trump Boyz are even sleazier than their old man.
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It's the liberal media. Oh wait...
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Trump's still an amateur. The Clinton's went pro with their Haiti scam.
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CitadelGrad wrote:Trump's still an amateur. The Clinton's went pro with their Haiti scam.
I'm not sure it's an amateur thing versus a public just doesn't care anymore. ABCNews did a whole exclusive on the sheer brazenness of the Clinton Foundation and how the Foundation ran the State Department basically as a subsidiary and the public never blinked - we're so conditioned to politicians serving their own needs in complete disregard to our needs that we don't care anymore. Heck, electing Trump is just more proof of that. For those who don't remember, this got buried in the October run-up to the election.

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It is refreshing to see that the media still knows how to go after financial chicanery

I thought they had lost the ability
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Wow...
I seriously never expected to see so many Conservative carry water for The Trumps
You guys are pretty handy

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Chizzang wrote:Wow...
I seriously never expected to see so many Conservative carry water for The Trumps
You guys are pretty handy

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I'm torn

I don't know who I find more distasteful or dishonest- Trump or the media in general

One goes down at the elevation of the other.... it's like watching a cage death match between that dude who bought the patent to that AIDS drug and jacked the price, and Pol Pot

One of them is going to win and that's a shame

It sort of feels like the last election
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Wow...
I seriously never expected to see so many Conservative carry water for The Trumps
You guys are pretty handy

Note:
George Will will not do what you have so proudly endeavored
To become the servant of a buffoon
I'm torn

I don't know who I find more distasteful or dishonest- Trump or the media in general

One goes down at the elevation of the other.... it's like watching a cage death match between that dude who bought the patent to that AIDS drug and jacked the price, and Pol Pot

One of them is going to win and that's a shame

It sort of feels like the last election
Is it really that tricky of a decision..?
I never considered using that defense when Obama was doing stupid sh!t

So you're saying:
Because Fox News basically ran a 24/365 - 8 year smear campaign against Obama
Therefore I should defend Obama's Eric holder appointment and Afghanistan decisions "Because Fox News"

I don't know CID
Really..?
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Chizzang wrote:
Is it really that tricky of a decision..?
I never considered using that defense when Obama was doing stupid sh!t

So you're saying:
Because Fox News basically ran a 24/365 - 8 year smear campaign against Obama
Therefore I should defend Obama's Eric holder appointment and Afghanistan decisions "Because Fox News"

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Really..?
It's about the double standard, Chizzy.

You know all those people that took their money out of the Clinton foundation purely by coincidence when Hillary lost the election? Do you think the MSM would be scrutinizing the relationship Hillary had with the donors if she had won? Hint: No.

Fox News would be reporting on it and the rest of the networks would be talking about how it's just the latest example of the vast right-wing conspiracy to destroy the Clintons and there's no proof of conflicts of interest.

Another thing: as long as we're getting outraged because cancer charities might have to pay for the venue where they hold their event, you might as well target the companies that make research equipment and the clinicians that do the research and all the people that work on clinical trials. Why can't they just work for free or at a discount? Why must so much be raised for research to be done? It's for the kids... :coffee:

You don't have to convince me Trump is a walking used-car salesman caricature, but this one is mild compared to other things he has done. at least this charity still actually has money to give to charity after the bills are paid.
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Pwns wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Is it really that tricky of a decision..?
I never considered using that defense when Obama was doing stupid sh!t

So you're saying:
Because Fox News basically ran a 24/365 - 8 year smear campaign against Obama
Therefore I should defend Obama's Eric holder appointment and Afghanistan decisions "Because Fox News"

I don't know CID
Really..?
It's about the double standard, Chizzy.

You know all those people that took their money out of the Clinton foundation purely by coincidence when Hillary lost the election? Do you think the MSM would be scrutinizing the relationship Hillary had with the donors if she had won? Hint: No.

Fox News would be reporting on it and the rest of the networks would be talking about how it's just the latest example of the vast right-wing conspiracy to destroy the Clintons and there's no proof of conflicts of interest.

Another thing: as long as we're getting outraged because cancer charities might have to pay for the venue where they hold their event, you might as well target the companies that make research equipment and the clinicians that do the research and all the people that work on clinical trials. Why can't they just work for free or at a discount? Why must so much be raised for research to be done? It's for the kids... :coffee:

You don't have to convince me Trump is a walking used-car salesman caricature, but this one is mild compared to other things he has done. at least this charity still actually has money to give to charity after the bills are paid.
If it was a full field shotgun, they charged $2236.11 per player. Cut that in half if it was a double shotgun or two day event.

Green fees
Cart rentals
Tee prizes
Prize fund
Dinner
Drinks
Facility rental
Admin fees

If it's a high end event it's conceivable you can easily reach that number.

Cripes, $10,000 per plate or higher campaign fundraisers are not unheard of.
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Pwns wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Is it really that tricky of a decision..?
I never considered using that defense when Obama was doing stupid sh!t

So you're saying:
Because Fox News basically ran a 24/365 - 8 year smear campaign against Obama
Therefore I should defend Obama's Eric holder appointment and Afghanistan decisions "Because Fox News"

I don't know CID
Really..?
It's about the double standard, Chizzy.

You know all those people that took their money out of the Clinton foundation purely by coincidence when Hillary lost the election? Do you think the MSM would be scrutinizing the relationship Hillary had with the donors if she had won? Hint: No.

Fox News would be reporting on it and the rest of the networks would be talking about how it's just the latest example of the vast right-wing conspiracy to destroy the Clintons and there's no proof of conflicts of interest.

Another thing: as long as we're getting outraged because cancer charities might have to pay for the venue where they hold their event, you might as well target the companies that make research equipment and the clinicians that do the research and all the people that work on clinical trials. Why can't they just work for free or at a discount? Why must so much be raised for research to be done? It's for the kids... :coffee:

You don't have to convince me Trump is a walking used-car salesman caricature, but this one is mild compared to other things he has done. at least this charity still actually has money to give to charity after the bills are paid.
You're missing my point...
I'm not suggesting anything about Hilary Clinton
and I've been as critical of her shenanigans as anybody on here

What I'm talking about is making excuses and blindly defending Trump
and then using "The Media" as your reason for defending a buffoon and his buffoonery

Trump has gotten all that's he's asked for
This is of his own design and myriad of blatant incompetencies

I can't think of one reason to defend him
Why would you..?
because he's flying a Republican banner (as he destroys the party???)

What's really driving anybody to go out of their way to defend him..?
and "Because the Media" is not an answer
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I'm torn

I don't know who I find more distasteful or dishonest- Trump or the media in general

One goes down at the elevation of the other.... it's like watching a cage death match between that dude who bought the patent to that AIDS drug and jacked the price, and Pol Pot

One of them is going to win and that's a shame

It sort of feels like the last election
Is it really that tricky of a decision..?
I never considered using that defense when Obama was doing stupid sh!t

So you're saying:
Because Fox News basically ran a 24/365 - 8 year smear campaign against Obama
Therefore I should defend Obama's Eric holder appointment and Afghanistan decisions "Because Fox News"

I don't know CID
Really..?
That's a real somersault you did there, Stretch

I'm not telling you what you should think - and I don't feel any need to defend Trump. He's god awful

But for now we're stuck with the guy so I'm going to at least enjoy watching the media (that gave all that free advertising to him before the election) writhe

I'm also going to enjoy at least a couple years of government paralysis too -
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