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Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:31 am
by kalm
Good idea? I need some limited government conks to convince me that it might be. I'm listening...
Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said the National Park Service could address its $11 billion backlog of maintenance projects by turning services over to private companies.
"As the secretary, I don't want to be in the business of running campgrounds," Zinke told members of the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association. "My folks will never be as good as you are."
"We are going to have more public-private partnerships soon," he said during the luncheon. "I think that's where the industry should be going."
At the same time, NPS plans to overhaul the roles and responsibilities of its workforce.
"We'll be looking at where our employees should be spending their time," he said. "Yes, cleaning the bathrooms. But actually running services, that's something we should be pushing to somebody who's updated and knows the market better."
http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/feature ... onal-parks
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:36 am
by houndawg
Knows the market better? Wtf?
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:56 am
by Skjellyfetti
KOA vs. NPS campground seems like an easy choice to me.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:02 am
by CID1990
in terms of the stewardship of the parks Im OK with them staying under gov control
But in terms of service/customer service- the government is the worst possible caretaker
Id be perfectly ok with opening the campgrounds and tour operations to the private sector
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Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:18 am
by Skjellyfetti
Eh. I'd rather there be no established campgrounds or "tour operations" than some McDonalds Park Ranger. Have stewardship but have only backcountry camping and no "tour operations." Take out the roads while you're at it. Make the wilderness wilderness again. Edward Abbey ftw.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:25 am
by CAA Flagship
Much of the big parks are already run by private businesses.
https://www.xanterra.com/who-we-are/
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:59 am
by CID1990
Skjellyfetti wrote:Eh. I'd rather there be no established campgrounds or "tour operations" than some McDonalds Park Ranger. Have stewardship but have only backcountry camping and no "tour operations." Take out the roads while you're at it. Make the wilderness wilderness again. Edward Abbey ftw.
The whole idea behind the concept of national parks is accessibility to the public. I agree with a minimalist, noninvasive approach - but if we close them off that much then they're just inaccessible Federal land
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:01 am
by GannonFan
I have no problem with the upper management, hence the oversight, staying with government and then have the operations and other services go private. Best of both worlds, but the oversight needs to be good or it can go amok.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:04 am
by CID1990
GannonFan wrote:I have no problem with the upper management, hence the oversight, staying with government and then have the operations and other services go private. Best of both worlds, but the oversight needs to be good or it can go amok.
Yeah we don't want companies staying at Trump Hotel or giving money to the Clinton Foundation in order to get the contract for flipping burgers at Yellowstone
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:09 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Eh. I'd rather there be no established campgrounds or "tour operations" than some McDonalds Park Ranger. Have stewardship but have only backcountry camping and no "tour operations." Take out the roads while you're at it. Make the wilderness wilderness again. Edward Abbey ftw.
The whole idea behind the concept of national parks is accessibility to the public. I agree with a minimalist, noninvasive approach - but if we close them off that much then they're just inaccessible Federal land
This. We already have wilderness areas.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:12 am
by GannonFan
CID1990 wrote:GannonFan wrote:I have no problem with the upper management, hence the oversight, staying with government and then have the operations and other services go private. Best of both worlds, but the oversight needs to be good or it can go amok.
Yeah we don't want companies staying at Trump Hotel or giving money to the Clinton Foundation in order to get the contract for flipping burgers at Yellowstone
Yes, the political environment has improved so much as business and political elites become entrenched in their positions of power. Who knows, maybe the rejection of Clinton and the eventual toppling of Trump will help clear the air. I'm not counting on it, there's always someone else of similar ilk to fill the void, but who knows.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:18 am
by Skjellyfetti
kalm wrote:CID1990 wrote:
The whole idea behind the concept of national parks is accessibility to the public. I agree with a minimalist, noninvasive approach - but if we close them off that much then they're just inaccessible Federal land
This. We already have wilderness areas.
West Coast Bias.
It's scant back East.
But, my post was intentionally over-the-top (like most of my posts).
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:39 am
by Grizalltheway
Maybe we could hire Blackwater to shoot east coast retards trying to get selfies with bison.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:41 am
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:Maybe we could hire Blackwater to shoot east coast retards trying to get selfies with bison.
Why must we spend money to do the Bison's job? More handouts from the left.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:02 am
by kalm
CAA Flagship wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:Maybe we could hire Blackwater to shoot east coast retards trying to get selfies with bison.
Why must we spend money to do the Bison's job? More handouts from the left.
Black water is a handout from the right.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:24 am
by Rob Iola
Taken to the logical extreme, Trump should privatize the entire Federal government.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:35 pm
by BDKJMU
Grizalltheway wrote:Maybe we could hire Blackwater to shoot east coast retards trying to get selfies with bison.
You mean Academi? Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009..
And most of those retards aren't east coast. Probably foreigners.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:50 pm
by Chizzang
BDKJMU wrote:Grizalltheway wrote:Maybe we could hire Blackwater to shoot east coast retards trying to get selfies with bison.
You mean Academi? Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009..
And most of those retards aren't east coast. Probably foreigners.
How many times has Blackwater been under investigation for fraud...
Then Xi then Academi
What a bunch of bottom feeding scum bags - but what can The World Police do..?
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:58 pm
by Grizalltheway
Chizzang wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
You mean Academi? Blackwater hasn't existed since 2009..
And most of those retards aren't east coast. Probably foreigners.
How many times has Blackwater been under investigation for fraud...
Then Xi then Academi
What a bunch of bottom feeding scum bags - but what can The World Police do..?
Yeah, my bad for not keeping up with all they names to create so the general public will forget they exist.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:10 pm
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:Chizzang wrote:
How many times has Blackwater been under investigation for fraud...
Then Xi then Academi
What a bunch of bottom feeding scum bags - but what can The World Police do..?
Yeah, my bad for not keeping up with all they names to create so the general public will forget they exist.
Get yer shit together.
Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:53 pm
by Ibanez
Grizalltheway wrote:Chizzang wrote:
How many times has Blackwater been under investigation for fraud...
Then Xi then Academi
What a bunch of bottom feeding scum bags - but what can The World Police do..?
Yeah, my bad for not keeping up with all they names to create so the general public will forget they exist.
Gabby Johnson is right!
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Re: Privatize National Park Service
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:59 pm
by JohnStOnge
I've always been pretty satisfied with government managed campgrounds.