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Goldberg doesn't have any new revelations here, pretty much everything he writes is obvious

But I enjoyed this article for the tie-in on Reagan the politician, and how the loyalty he garnered from a wide range of political ideologues is what Trump would like to have, but cannot inspire (because he's basically bereft of character)

http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/44 ... r-revealed

"The second thing is the more bitter pill. The president of the United States really just isn’t a very good person. There is no definition of good character that he can meet. You certainly can’t say he’s a man of good character when it comes to sexual behavior. His adulterous past is well-documented. You can’t say he models decency in the way he talks. He’s not honest (you can look it up). He brags about whining his way to winning. He boasts of double-crossing business partners. If you want to say he’s charitable, you should read up on how he used his “charities” as leverage or for publicity stunts. I think we can all agree he’s not humble or self-sacrificing. When asked what sacrifices he’s made, in the context of his spat with the Kahn family, he couldn’t name anything save for the fact that he worked very hard to get rich and that he employs people (presumably because it profits him to do so). I don’t know how anyone could absolve him of the charge of vanity or greed. He’s certainly not pious by any conventional definition."

IMPEACH HIM NOW!!! RESIST!!!




All good observations in the article, but as you well know, none of them impeachable offenses...he was elected properly and will serve until the end of his term, or somethig much more serious that "He's a boor, a lout, and embarrassment to the country" comes along

I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

Col Hogan wrote:IMPEACH HIM NOW!!! RESIST!!!




All good observations in the article, but as you well know, none of them impeachable offenses...he was elected properly and will serve until the end of his term, or somethig much more serious that "He's a boor, a lout, and embarrassment to the country" comes along

I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

I'm the first person to point out that none of this is impeachable

But I'm a "dignity of the office" kind of guy- I was when Slick Willie was in office also- and roundly castigated by my liberal friends

Liberal friends who NOW talk about the dignity of the office - but they are right. As I was right back then

CID1990 wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:IMPEACH HIM NOW!!! RESIST!!!




All good observations in the article, but as you well know, none of them impeachable offenses...he was elected properly and will serve until the end of his term, or somethig much more serious that "He's a boor, a lout, and embarrassment to the country" comes along

I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

I'm the first person to point out that none of this is impeachable

But I'm a "dignity of the office" kind of guy- I was when Slick Willie was in office also- and roundly castigated by my liberal friends

Liberal friends who NOW talk about the dignity of the office - but they are right. As I was right back then

Oh, I'm with you there all the way...

We don't have to respect the office holder...just the office

Col Hogan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
I'm the first person to point out that none of this is impeachable

But I'm a "dignity of the office" kind of guy- I was when Slick Willie was in office also- and roundly castigated by my liberal friends

Liberal friends who NOW talk about the dignity of the office - but they are right. As I was right back then

Oh, I'm with you there all the way...

We don't have to respect the office holder...just the office

The problem I see on the horizon is that the Trump Presidency is lining up to go down as the worst Presidency in history

And not because he is so offensive and juvenile-

It is because his infantile behavior on Twitter is giving cover to his political opponents to stonewall him on everything

If he keeps going the way he's going, he won't be able to get legislation passed for blind orphaned gay black children

CID1990 wrote:Goldberg doesn't have any new revelations here, pretty much everything he writes is obvious.

Agree as well.

But it came down to Trump or Hillary. Nobody talks about the character of the one who lost. I would rather complain about Trump's character now than Hillary's.

Yes, Trump is a shithead. Water is also wet.

CAA Flagship wrote:Agree as well.

But it came down to Trump or Hillary. Nobody talks about the character of the one who lost. I would rather complain about Trump's character now than Hillary's.

Well I went through my umpteen steps of mourning back in July when I learned who the nominees would be

Liberals didn't start their mourning period until November so I like to tell myself that I had a head start

Col Hogan wrote:
I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

Because there is a serious problem with the people the Republican Party depends upon as its base.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

Because there is a serious problem with the people the Republican Party depends upon as its base.

Yeah, it had nothing to do with the fact that the Dems ran Hillary Clinton, an even more corrupt human than Donald Trump.

Get a clue.

93henfan wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
Because there is a serious problem with the people the Republican Party depends upon as its base.

Yeah, it had nothing to do with the fact that the Dems ran Hillary Clinton, an even more corrupt human than Donald Trump.

Get a clue.

Don't forget the economy.

More than Trump insulting a reporter, the most important take-home message about the twitter brouhaha is just how easily Trump is trolled. It's easier for a person like Joe Scarboro to troll Trump than it is to troll Opie on a message board. That, and Trump is obviously pretty easily manipulated by flattery as well.

BTW, just a hunch, but if Obama took a shot at Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity on twitter I'm guessing the liberal poutrage would be 2 or 3 points lower on the Richter scale.

CID1990 wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:IMPEACH HIM NOW!!! RESIST!!!




All good observations in the article, but as you well know, none of them impeachable offenses...he was elected properly and will serve until the end of his term, or somethig much more serious that "He's a boor, a lout, and embarrassment to the country" comes along

I know, so why was he elected??? If you are still asking that question, then you don't get it and never will...

I'm the first person to point out that none of this is impeachable

But I'm a "dignity of the office" kind of guy- I was when Slick Willie was in office also- and roundly castigated by my liberal friends

Liberal friends who NOW talk about the dignity of the office - but they are right. As I was right back then

I'm with you 100% CID. Thought Willie sullied "the office", and dipstick Trump is doing it in spades again.

Col Hogan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
I'm the first person to point out that none of this is impeachable

But I'm a "dignity of the office" kind of guy- I was when Slick Willie was in office also- and roundly castigated by my liberal friends

Liberal friends who NOW talk about the dignity of the office - but they are right. As I was right back then

Oh, I'm with you there all the way...

We don't have to respect the office holder...just the office

Exactly. Trump is below the dignity of the office...but he does hold the office. SO i'll respect the President and hope he does what's truly best for the country.

Trump and Hillary both sucked. But I'll take consolation that Trump gave us Gorsuch and hopefully will give us one or two more like him.

Trump is boorish, and should tone down the twitter, but 3 things I like about him:
-He prevented us from having to refer to Clinton as Madam President for 4-8 years.
-Gorsuch instead of Garland, and likely 1-2 (insert your originalist judge here) instead of (insert your liberal, judicial activist judge here). (Plus doz of citcuit court judge vacancies that will be filled).
-Drives the left absolutely bat shit crazy..

BDKJMU wrote:Trump is boorish, and should tone down the twitter, but 3 things I like about him:
-He prevented us from having to refer to Clinton as Madam President for 4-8 years.
-Gorsuch instead of Garland, and likely 1-2 (insert your originalist judge here) instead of (insert your liberal, judicial activist judge here). (Plus doz of citcuit court judge vacancies that will be filled).
-Drives the left absolutely bat shit crazy..

He does indeed hit every LEFT button
In fact he's gotten CNN to completely go rogue
I can't even get one piece of legitimate information from that agency - they've gone nuts

But you neglect to note:
He is also destroying the RIGHT
The true fallout of his term can't be measured just yet but it will be interesting

CAA Flagship wrote:Agree as well.

But it came down to Trump or Hillary. Nobody talks about the character of the one who lost. I would rather complain about Trump's character now than Hillary's.

Clinton has a million times better character than Trump. Far more honest, actually has morals and cares about non-billionaires. to state otherwise is laughable.

BDKJMU wrote:Trump is boorish, and should tone down the twitter, but 3 things I like about him:
-He prevented us from having to refer to Clinton as Madam President for 4-8 years.
-Gorsuch instead of Garland, and likely 1-2 (insert your originalist judge here) instead of (insert your liberal, judicial activist judge here). (Plus doz of citcuit court judge vacancies that will be filled).
-Drives the left absolutely bat shit crazy..

Glad you are happy over the destruction of the United States.

dbackjon wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Trump is boorish, and should tone down the twitter, but 3 things I like about him:
-He prevented us from having to refer to Clinton as Madam President for 4-8 years.
-Gorsuch instead of Garland, and likely 1-2 (insert your originalist judge here) instead of (insert your liberal, judicial activist judge here). (Plus doz of citcuit court judge vacancies that will be filled).
-Drives the left absolutely bat **** crazy..

Glad you are happy over the destruction of the United States.

dbackjon wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:Agree as well.

But it came down to Trump or Hillary. Nobody talks about the character of the one who lost. I would rather complain about Trump's character now than Hillary's.

Clinton has a million times better character than Trump. Far more honest, actually has morals and cares about non-billionaires. to state otherwise is laughable.

Clinton would have been better for the dignity of the office.

That is to say, she wouldn't be trolling on twitter

But in terms of character i find her to be just as bereft of it as Trump - they both have zero

CID1990 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Clinton has a million times better character than Trump. Far more honest, actually has morals and cares about non-billionaires. to state otherwise is laughable.

Clinton would have been better for the dignity of the office.

That is to say, she wouldn't be trolling on twitter

But in terms of character i find her to be just as bereft of it as Trump - they both have zero

Known crook, cheater, liar and murderer up against a know mysoginst, sexist, boorish, egocentric asshole.

Great choice, America.

93henfan wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
Because there is a serious problem with the people the Republican Party depends upon as its base.

Yeah, it had nothing to do with the fact that the Dems ran Hillary Clinton, an even more corrupt human than Donald Trump.

Get a clue.

Hillary Clinton being the Democrat candidate was a significant factor. But what I'm talking about is looking at it from the beginning when Trump entered the race. Very soon thereafter we learned that all of the stereotypes about the Republican base being hateful and ignorant are true.

Later that core of hateful and ignorant people was joined by others went for the "binary choice" crap.

But we learned during this election cycle that the Republican Party really does have a problem with its base. They can't be reasonable because that's not going to fly with that hateful, ignorant core they've got.

HI54UNI wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Yeah, it had nothing to do with the fact that the Dems ran Hillary Clinton, an even more corrupt human than Donald Trump.

Get a clue.

Don't forget the economy.

I know you're trolling but I just heard reports on both NPR and CNN today of a newly issued study concluding that it wasn't the economy. Then I saw Fareed Zakaria talking about it and referencing a couple of studies while referencing his column at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 79e2b40ddf.

Some language from the column:

The Public Religion Research Institute and the Atlantic also conducted an important study to analyze the most powerful predictors of whether a white working-class American would vote for Trump. The top predictor was if someone identified as a Republican, a reminder that party loyalty is very strong. But after that, the two best predictors were “fears of cultural displacement” and support for deporting undocumented immigrants. Those who felt their economic conditions were poor or fair were actually slightly more likely to vote for Hillary Clinton.

That's consistent with what I've been saying exit polling showed for months now. Any rational person looking at that exit polling knows that Trump didn't get elected because of the economy. He got elected because there's a core of people who don't like illegal immigration and who are very concerned about terrorism. Additionally, he got 80% of the White Evangelical Christian vote. The fact that he got a higher percentage of that vote than George W. Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney got tells you...or SHOULD tell you if you're being rational...that cultural issues played a huge role. Stuff like those White Evangelical Christians seeing the Supreme Court foist homosexual marriage upon States that didn't want it, the transgender bathroom stuff, etc.

The idea that Trump won because of the economy is a total myth. Again: ALL of the polling before the election, the exit polling, and polling since the election shows that people who considered the economy as highly important to their decision voted majority Clinton. And I'll say that again even though I know you were just trolling.

I guess it doesn't really matter if people continue to believe something that isn't true. But the idea that Trump won because of the economy just isn't true. He won because of the kinds of stuff about Republican voters that Democrats like to stereotype Republican voters on.