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The Lord apparently opened with, “Jesse, do you like your plane?”

Although the conversation sounded suspiciously like Duplantis talking to himself, Ken Copeland chimed in, saying, “You couldn’t have done that on an airline,” and that “Private jets are sanctuary that protect the anointed.”

Copeland went on to say that commercial airline travel was impossible for preachers in a “dope filled world” and that riding coach was like “getting in a long tube with a bunch of demons.”

Other preachers, such as Pastor Creflo Dollar, have allegedly been told by God to buy private planes. Creflo was able to raise $70 million for a Gulfstream Jet to fulfill the mysterious will of the Lord.

kalm wrote:

Churches do not need tax exempt status. God is giving providing them with Gulfstreams!

The Lord apparently opened with, “Jesse, do you like your plane?”

Although the conversation sounded suspiciously like Duplantis talking to himself, Ken Copeland chimed in, saying, “You couldn’t have done that on an airline,” and that “Private jets are sanctuary that protect the anointed.”

Copeland went on to say that commercial airline travel was impossible for preachers in a “dope filled world” and that riding coach was like “getting in a long tube with a bunch of demons.”

Other preachers, such as Pastor Creflo Dollar, have allegedly been told by God to buy private planes. Creflo was able to raise $70 million for a Gulfstream Jet to fulfill the mysterious will of the Lord.

http://deadstate.org/christian-preacher ... -in-coach/

Jjoey52 wrote:This is why believers need to support their local churches instead of the TV evangelists. They do not need their own private aircraft.

The position of stature they acquire has corrupted them even though most started out sincerely.

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
And secondly
Stupid people (In this case the Televangelist congregation) deserve to have their money stolen

Not to change the subject and I don't disagree but-

^^^^ exactly that right there is how I have heard west Africans justify their culture of corruption, taking from other tribal groups, and the entire (billion dollar) scam industry

I'll bet many if not all of those televangelists, deep down, think exactly the same way

Chizzang wrote:

Jjoey52 wrote:This is why believers need to support their local churches instead of the TV evangelists. They do not need their own private aircraft.

The position of stature they acquire has corrupted them even though most started out sincerely.

Joey,
Power does not change ones character it simply reveals it

Jjoey52 wrote:Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Chizzang wrote:

Jjoey52 wrote:Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Flawed logic ^
It doesn't hold up to further scrutiny
True its catchy and feels good - it actually feels better than "Power reveals character, it doesn't shape it"

However:
Just ponder all the examples both large and small where people have had power or presently do have power
and do not abuse others with their power

Being powerful or all powerful or more powerful than some
isn't the problem...

If it was that simple it would be that simple and be irrefutable (period)
I repeat: Power exposes character it doesn't corrupt ones character

UNI88 wrote:

Chizzang wrote: Flawed logic ^
It doesn't hold up to further scrutiny
True its catchy and feels good - it actually feels better than "Power reveals character, it doesn't shape it"

However:
Just ponder all the examples both large and small where people have had power or presently do have power
and do not abuse others with their power

Being powerful or all powerful or more powerful than some
isn't the problem...

If it was that simple it would be that simple and be irrefutable (period)
I repeat: Power exposes character it doesn't corrupt ones character

I was going to ask why it couldn't be a little of both. That those of strong character are able to resist corruption but those of weak character aren't. The problem with that argument is that it actually supports Chizzy's statement.

Chizzang wrote:

UNI88 wrote: I was going to ask why it couldn't be a little of both. That those of strong character are able to resist corruption but those of weak character aren't. The problem with that argument is that it actually supports Chizzy's statement.

Correct...
It's a worthy debate from either side
but it's only absolutely winnable from one position

CID1990 wrote:God has given a lot of weird instructions over the last 6000 years the world has been in existence.

he used to tell dudes to kill their firstborn

Now he just tells them to get a jet

Seems to me he's getting soft

Jjoey52 wrote:After pondering this for awhile, I do think Chizzy has a point in this. However, I must state most ministers and pastors of local churches are not corrupt greedy individuals and I have known quite a few.



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Bisonfanatical wrote:

CID1990 wrote:God has given a lot of weird instructions over the last 6000 years the world has been in existence.

he used to tell dudes to kill their firstborn

Now he just tells them to get a jet

Seems to me he's getting soft

Hmm mm,
I guess that depends on which "god" you are referencing?
As flawed as the western church is I don't remember reading that part in their bible?

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CID1990 wrote:

Bisonfanatical wrote:Hmm mm,
I guess that depends on which "god" you are referencing?
As flawed as the western church is I don't remember reading that part in their bible?

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The Bible doesn't tell us that the earth is less than 10,000 years old?

It doesn't tell us that Abraham was told to sacrifice his first born?

Just because Osteen hasn't written the Book of Joel yet doesn't mean god didn't tell him to get a gulfstream