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A real hot take from the Washington Post...

Many on the right are quick to deride universities as bastions of liberalism, ivory towers where leftist professors coddle students in protective safe spaces. And yet the most high-profile and powerful institution on campus — college football — has long been a vehicle to promote ideas central to American conservatism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mad ... b377523893

Safe Spaces / Trigger Warnings / Snow Flakes

now add CTE Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy to the list

This is why the media is so anti football, concussions and injuries are just as bad In other sports but they are never mentioned, arrests are made a bigger deal when a football player is involved, etc.


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Back when I was in college I can remember an article coming out where the author said football is a homosexual ritual.

Col Hogan wrote:A real hot take from the Washington Post...

Many on the right are quick to deride universities as bastions of liberalism, ivory towers where leftist professors coddle students in protective safe spaces. And yet the most high-profile and powerful institution on campus — college football — has long been a vehicle to promote ideas central to American conservatism.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mad ... b377523893

Wow, it's hard to explain in words how much dumber we all are for having read that article.

To Prof. MacGregor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

And then the socialist NFL has to go and ruin everything...

JoltinJoe wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:A real hot take from the Washington Post...



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mad ... b377523893

Wow, it's hard to explain in words how much dumber we all are for having read that article.

To Prof. MacGregor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

No matter how stupid the article is, you have to give him credit, JJ. He checked off on almost all of the boxes that make progtards like him nauseous. Authoritarian Masculinity - Check; Gender Roles - Check; Male Domination - Check; Traditional values - Check.

It's actually a little satisfying that something as innocent as college football would compel him to write such an asinine article.

Baldy wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:
Wow, it's hard to explain in words how much dumber we all are for having read that article.

To Prof. MacGregor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

No matter how stupid the article is, you have to give him credit, JJ. He checked off on almost all of the boxes that make progtards like him nauseous. Authoritarian Masculinity - Check; Gender Roles - Check; Male Domination - Check; Traditional values - Check.

It's actually a little satisfying that something as innocent as college football would compel him to write such an asinine article.

Yeah, the authoritarian masculinity line cracked me up but he forgot to mention exploitation women (cheerleaders).

119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

Chizzang wrote:119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

Nice story, Bro?

However, that has nothing to do with this article.

Baldy wrote:

Chizzang wrote:119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

Nice story, Bro?

However, that has nothing to do with this article.

obviously,
But it's an opportunity to get that little statistic out there
and maybe help somebody talk to their kid or nephew

Jjoey52 wrote:This is why the media is so anti football, concussions and injuries are just as bad In other sports but they are never mentioned, arrests are made a bigger deal when a football player is involved, etc.


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Bullshit.

houndawg wrote:

Jjoey52 wrote:This is why the media is so anti football, concussions and injuries are just as bad In other sports but they are never mentioned, arrests are made a bigger deal when a football player is involved, etc.


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Bullshit.

Joey will very likely never put in the 30 minutes of research required to understand
Football is an amazing sport (I'm a huge fan)
But there is no denying the reality of CTE and Football

I fear for the players safety a lot
Most pro football players will not enjoy their 50s and 60s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... l-cte.html

My son played HS and D-III college football.He was a WR and had his bell rung a few times. Not really worried about him, but thinking about my buds Cap'n Cat and D1B. No homo.

Chizzang wrote:

houndawg wrote:



Bullshit.

Joey will very likely never put in the 30 minutes of research required to understand
Football is an amazing sport (I'm a huge fan)
But there is no denying the reality of CTE and Football

I fear for the players safety a lot
Most pro football players will not enjoy their 50s and 60s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... l-cte.html

I know about CTE what it entails, and yes I know the average life span of NFL players is lower than the general population (particularly Steeler players who were fed steroids by a crooked doctor in the 70s.)

What has not been done is to test for CTE in other sports particularly soccer. Concussions are very prevalent in soccer and do occur in baseball also, yet the media never goes after soccer and other sports. Other injuries like knee, ankles etc. also occur in other sports, but the only one where CTE has been proven is football.


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kalm wrote:And then the socialist NFL has to go and ruin everything...

I don't get the socialist pay for performance deal. I would expect everyone to get paid the same, including the commish.

Chizzang wrote:119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

I would explain to them that that is a sample from symptomatic individuals voluntarily donating their brains and not a random sample of former NFL players.

Jjoey52 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Joey will very likely never put in the 30 minutes of research required to understand
Football is an amazing sport (I'm a huge fan)
But there is no denying the reality of CTE and Football

I fear for the players safety a lot
Most pro football players will not enjoy their 50s and 60s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... l-cte.html

I know about CTE what it entails, and yes I know the average life span of NFL players is lower than the general population (particularly Steeler players who were fed steroids by a crooked doctor in the 70s.)

What has not been done is to test for CTE in other sports particularly soccer. Concussions are very prevalent in soccer and do occur in baseball also, yet the media never goes after soccer and other sports. Other injuries like knee, ankles etc. also occur in other sports, but the only one where CTE has been proven is football.

We're still in the early stages of understanding CTE but IMO there is a lot more than concussions that contribute. Look at lineman, they aren't as likely to be involved in the big hits but I would suspect that they have higher rates of CTE than other positions. Knocking heads play after play might not give a player a diagnosed concussion but the long-term damage could be worse. That repeated banging and head slapping doesn't happen in soccer, baseball, lacrosse, etc.

I also think that the rate of actual concussions is going down. I say actual because reported concussions has probably gone up due to increased awareness. Good coaches from the youth level on up are teaching techniques (heads up tackling, etc.) that reduce the risk of concussions. Football is still a very dangerous game and there is still work to be done. At the HS and youth level around here, ball carriers are not supposed to drop their helmet and lead with their head outside of the tackle box (I'm not sure about the NCAA or NFL) but it is rarely called and it needs to be. Eventually it will be a penalty to drop your helmet when engaging a tackler/ball carrier. People used to criticize Eddie George's upright running style but I think you're going to see more backs carry the ball that way in order to protect their heads. These rules and techniques don't help the linemen though.

Football is a dangerous game and parents should be aware of the risks before allowing their children to play. My 16 yo son played flag from 5-7 years old but we wouldn't let him play tackle until he was 11. And that was after he begged to after tagging along with me when I was coaching. He played youth tackle for 3 years but is now playing soccer in HS. There is a risk in soccer but I'm not nearly as concerned as I would be if he was playing football.

Pwns wrote:

Chizzang wrote:119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

I would explain to them that that is a sample from symptomatic individuals voluntarily donating their brains and not a random sample of former NFL players.

An average NFL lineman suffers a mild concussion approximately every 6 minutes of playing time
an average NFL running back suffers a mild concussion every 8.5 carries
Linebackers one every 16 snaps



Sample group... expanding rapidly

Chizzang wrote:119 out of 120 former NFL players brains examined have CTE...
I would sincerely request that each of you explain that to your kids and or nephews playing football

I love the sport
but let other people play it - protect your loved ones noggins

I was talking about that with my brother a couple of days ago. He started a conversation on CTE. I said I guess it could be sour grapes but it made me see a sliver lining to a regret I've always had. That regret is that I decided to quit playing football in the 10th grade even though I was a really good athlete. By the time I was in my mid 20s or so I wished I hadn't done that. But I thought a sliver lining is that maybe I'd have suffered a serious injury that caused me pain for life or something. Now with CTE the silver lining is brighter.

Gotta admit though, when it comes right down to it, I wish I wouldn't have done it. Back then my only thought is that I didn't want to spend my summers working out with weights and conditioning. But by the time I was in my early 20s I was working out with weights and conditioning in various ways all through the year just because I'd come to like doing it.

Jjoey52 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Joey will very likely never put in the 30 minutes of research required to understand
Football is an amazing sport (I'm a huge fan)
But there is no denying the reality of CTE and Football

I fear for the players safety a lot
Most pro football players will not enjoy their 50s and 60s

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... l-cte.html

I know about CTE what it entails, and yes I know the average life span of NFL players is lower than the general population (particularly Steeler players who were fed steroids by a crooked doctor in the 70s.)

What has not been done is to test for CTE in other sports particularly soccer. Concussions are very prevalent in soccer and do occur in baseball also, yet the media never goes after soccer and other sports. Other injuries like knee, ankles etc. also occur in other sports, but the only one where CTE has been proven is football.


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CTE has been studied in soccer in several countries. Play rugby instead.

The NBA only has an average of 14.9 concussions per season.
NHL averages 4.7 to 7.7 concussions per 100 players per season.

The NFL is the mild concussion grand champion...
With 22 players on the field there is at least one mild concussion every snap

frankly it's staggering
it will eventually change the sport dramatically

I'll be honest, it's getting harder for me to enjoy football as more information is being discovered on the life-long effects of its participants. Maybe the safety gear will catch up, but maybe it never can.

That said, with how quickly tech is changing, I don't think it's unrealistic to think football can potentially become the first virtual (pro) sport ever...perhaps in my lifetime. The NFL just needs to make it an immersive fan environment from the comfort of a couch.

∞∞∞ wrote:I'll be honest, it's getting harder for me to enjoy football as more information is being discovered on the life-long effects of its participants. Maybe the safety gear will catch up, but maybe it never can.

That said, with how quickly tech is changing, I don't think it's unrealistic to think football can potentially become the first virtual (pro) sport ever...perhaps in my lifetime. The NFL just needs to make it an immersive fan environment from the comfort of a couch.

Not sure if serious. Doubting.