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Well, there's goes another one. John Lasseter, chief creative officer of the widely popular and successful Pixar studios, is taking a leave of absence after a "series of missteps" that including groping and kissing and comments about physical appearance.

The thing I want to know is, does this in any way imperil the release of "Incredibles 2"? Because if it does, I think these people should take a page out of the SNL women's page and just say that John, like Al Franken before him, is a well respected family man and there have to be some people he hasn't harassed or assaulted.

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GannonFan wrote:Well, there's goes another one. John Lasseter, chief creative officer of the widely popular and successful Pixar studios, is taking a leave of absence after a "series of missteps" that including groping and kissing and comments about physical appearance.

I think when we get to the point of "comments about physical appearance" that's a bit much.

Again, can’t we just stipulate that all men are pigs and have done something inappropriate and just fucking move on?

The endpoint of this is going to be the lawsuits over discrimination because your male manage won't be alone with you - when you want to have a meeting he'll insist that there be another person present.

CID1990 wrote:The endpoint of this is going to be the lawsuits over discrimination because your male manage won't be alone with you - when you want to have a meeting he'll insist that there be another person present.

This is not far off from happening in higher Ed at institutions with draconian sexual harassment policies. It ain't pretty.

Pwns wrote:

CID1990 wrote:The endpoint of this is going to be the lawsuits over discrimination because your male manage won't be alone with you - when you want to have a meeting he'll insist that there be another person present.

This is not far off from happening in higher Ed at institutions with draconian sexual harassment policies. It ain't pretty.

I will NOT be in a room with a closed door and only one other person. Won’t do it.

I had an experience at a former post that I won't detail (I wasn't one of the accused), where a woman left a bunch of sexual assault and harassment allegations in her wake, which she eventually dropped - but not after one military person had been cashiered for adultery (she was married, he was not) and a couple others were raked over the coals

All because she wanted to muddy the water over her own alcohol abuse and fidelity issues -

The moral of the story is don't associate with women you don't know at work, don't socialize with them, ABSOLUTELY don't get into relationships with them (that's been a personal policy of mine since my earliest days), and don't put yourself in situations where they can get you into a he said-she said position.

One day this post will probably be used against me in an EEO complaint for refusing to be alone with a woman in the workplace, but it is the truth, and a sound personal (though unfortunate) policy

CID1990 wrote:The endpoint of this is going to be the lawsuits over discrimination because your male manage won't be alone with you - when you want to have a meeting he'll insist that there be another person present.

I was a supervisor in three different factories for about ten years and just about the first thing I did after hiring in was to take the door off of my office for just that reason. That's not what I told the curious but supervising 18 females is no picnic and the office politics of factory workers are not of the subtle variety. I have no problem having a female boss but anybody with that many female subordinates earns a lot more than they're paid.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:The endpoint of this is going to be the lawsuits over discrimination because your male manage won't be alone with you - when you want to have a meeting he'll insist that there be another person present.

I was a supervisor in three different factories for about ten years and just about the first thing I did after hiring in was to take the door off of my office for just that reason. That's not what I told the curious but supervising 18 females is no picnic and the office politics of factory workers are not of the subtle variety. I have no problem having a female boss but anybody with that many female subordinates earns a lot more than they're paid.

Yep. Passed on a CEO job once where I would have had about 90 employees of which 75-80 were female. No way in hell.

HI54UNI wrote:

houndawg wrote:
I was a supervisor in three different factories for about ten years and just about the first thing I did after hiring in was to take the door off of my office for just that reason. That's not what I told the curious but supervising 18 females is no picnic and the office politics of factory workers are not of the subtle variety. I have no problem having a female boss but anybody with that many female subordinates earns a lot more than they're paid.

Yep. Passed on a CEO job once where I would have had about 90 employees of which 75-80 were female. No way in hell.

I read this as bar manager of a strip joint.

AZGrizFan wrote:Again, can’t we just stipulate that all men are pigs and have done something inappropriate and just fucking move on?

Agreed, what about kids?

AZGrizFan wrote:

Pwns wrote:
This is not far off from happening in higher Ed at institutions with draconian sexual harassment policies. It ain't pretty.

I will NOT be in a room with a closed door and only one other person. Won’t do it.

Afraid you'll get bent over by a man and actually enjoy it?

CAA Flagship wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:
Yep. Passed on a CEO job once where I would have had about 90 employees of which 75-80 were female. No way in hell.

I read this as bar manager of a strip joint.

Close. A couple of hints what field it was in.

HI54UNI wrote:

houndawg wrote:
I was a supervisor in three different factories for about ten years and just about the first thing I did after hiring in was to take the door off of my office for just that reason. That's not what I told the curious but supervising 18 females is no picnic and the office politics of factory workers are not of the subtle variety. I have no problem having a female boss but anybody with that many female subordinates earns a lot more than they're paid.

Yep. Passed on a CEO job once where I would have had about 90 employees of which 75-80 were female. No way in hell.

They did always bake me cookies after a grievance meeting