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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:33 pm

HI54UNI wrote:


I know this isn't true because we were told the repeal of net neutrality would kill us all. I assume we are all dead and are just "living" in the matrix.


and everything is fine with Obama Care...

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby CID1990 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:48 pm

Chizzang wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
I know this isn't true because we were told the repeal of net neutrality would kill us all. I assume we are all dead and are just "living" in the matrix.


and everything is fine with Obama Care...

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Baldy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:14 pm

Chizzang wrote:


Other than popcorn have you got anything..?
Because Jeff Jacoby is about as unresearched and uniformed as anybody could be to write this article
Example:
I can write an article on how The Affordable Care act is the best thing possible for America
and use anecdotal statistics to paint a beautiful picture

:coffee:

So speeds didn't increase by 40% and the US didn't improve from 12th to 7th fastest? :?

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:10 pm

Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Other than popcorn have you got anything..?
Because Jeff Jacoby is about as unresearched and uniformed as anybody could be to write this article
Example:
I can write an article on how The Affordable Care act is the best thing possible for America
and use anecdotal statistics to paint a beautiful picture

:coffee:

So speeds didn't increase by 40% and the US didn't improve from 12th to 7th fastest? :?

Baldy,
Do we really want to do this..?
It's about a 5 page answer to respond to that completely bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of...

Firstly Comcast can legally increase or decrease anybody's service they see fit
So how could somebody test rightfully say what speeds they actually provide..?

Comcast controls speeds minute by minute
and if you inform them of a test they will increase the speeds
They are the gate keeper

When Net Neutrality passed in 2015
The following year Comcast and TW began fiber projects
projects specifically designed to address performance
Some of those projects are being completed now

It has NOTHING to do with Comcast being a gracious host of our Broadband infrastructure
and gleefully providing better service

:lol:

Believe me... Comcasts consumer ratings will continue to stay at the very bottom
where they've been for almost 20 years

Here's a test
go here:
https://fast.com/
and
http://speedtest.xfinity.com/
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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Baldy » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:35 am

Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote:So speeds didn't increase by 40% and the US didn't improve from 12th to 7th fastest? :?

Baldy,
Do we really want to do this..?
It's about a 5 page answer to respond to that completely bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of...

Firstly Comcast can legally increase or decrease anybody's service they see fit
So how could somebody test rightfully say what speeds they actually provide..?

Comcast controls speeds minute by minute
and if you inform them of a test they will increase the speeds
They are the gate keeper

When Net Neutrality passed in 2015
The following year Comcast and TW began fiber projects
projects specifically designed to address performance
Some of those projects are being completed now

It has NOTHING to do with Comcast being a gracious host of our Broadband infrastructure
and gleefully providing better service

:lol:

Believe me... Comcasts consumer ratings will continue to stay at the very bottom
where they've been for almost 20 years

Here's a test
go here:
https://fast.com/
and
http://speedtest.xfinity.com/

"bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of..."

Jeezus Christ you trigger so easily. :lol:

I simply posted an opinion piece with linked source information. I didn't write it. I didn't post it to troll, but my God you swallowed it whole.

There were so-called respected pundits, journalists, "leaders" who actually said people would die because net neutrality was repealed. There were countless others who actually said and predicted that repealing net neutrality would be the end of the internet as we know it. I didn't think you were that far off the deep end bat **** crazy, but now I'm not so sure.

The point is, net neutrality ended a year ago and guess what...nothing has changed. Deal with it.

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:40 am

Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Baldy,
Do we really want to do this..?
It's about a 5 page answer to respond to that completely bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of...

Firstly Comcast can legally increase or decrease anybody's service they see fit
So how could somebody test rightfully say what speeds they actually provide..?

Comcast controls speeds minute by minute
and if you inform them of a test they will increase the speeds
They are the gate keeper

When Net Neutrality passed in 2015
The following year Comcast and TW began fiber projects
projects specifically designed to address performance
Some of those projects are being completed now

It has NOTHING to do with Comcast being a gracious host of our Broadband infrastructure
and gleefully providing better service

:lol:

Believe me... Comcasts consumer ratings will continue to stay at the very bottom
where they've been for almost 20 years

Here's a test
go here:
https://fast.com/
and
http://speedtest.xfinity.com/

"bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of..."

Jeezus Christ you trigger so easily. :lol:

I simply posted an opinion piece with linked source information. I didn't write it. I didn't post it to troll, but my God you swallowed it whole.

There were so-called respected pundits, journalists, "leaders" who actually said people would die because net neutrality was repealed. There were countless others who actually said and predicted that repealing net neutrality would be the end of the internet as we know it. I didn't think you were that far off the deep end bat **** crazy, but now I'm not so sure.

The point is, net neutrality ended a year ago and guess what...nothing has changed. Deal with it.



:lol:

I'm not aware of anybody predicting death and mayhem
but what was most commonly predicted has come true

But you'd never know because "It hasn't happened to you" personally so it hasn't happened
and a Republican hasn't complained yet to any of your sources (because they're on the Comcast dole)

but throttling happens every day
and I'm not going to explain it to you
Just remember: Comcast has your best interest at heart
How would you define a Republican?
"Somebody comfortable betting that science is wrong and oil companies are right..."

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Re: RE: Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby UNI88 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:28 am

Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote:"bought and paid for article by Comcast
that you're so proud of..."

Jeezus Christ you trigger so easily.

I simply posted an opinion piece with linked source information. I didn't write it. I didn't post it to troll, but my God you swallowed it whole.

There were so-called respected pundits, journalists, "leaders" who actually said people would die because net neutrality was repealed. There were countless others who actually said and predicted that repealing net neutrality would be the end of the internet as we know it. I didn't think you were that far off the deep end bat **** crazy, but now I'm not so sure.

The point is, net neutrality ended a year ago and guess what...nothing has changed. Deal with it.





I'm not aware of anybody predicting death and mayhem
but what was most commonly predicted has come true

But you'd never know because "It hasn't happened to you" personally so it hasn't happened
and a Republican hasn't complained yet to any of your sources (because they're on the Comcast dole)

but throttling happens every day
and I'm not going to explain it to you
Just remember: Comcast has your best interest at heart
It's not just throttling. I have Comcast for internet because I don't have any other viable high speed alternatives. I pay $90/month for 150gb download with a 1 terrabyte max per month. If I lived 5-10 miles north in Wisconsin I could get 200gb download and I don't think there's a max for $45/month. The $45 difference isn't all because of regulatory fees, a big chunk of it is price gouging by a monopoly.

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby CAA Flagship » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:21 am

Chizzang wrote: :lol:

I'm not aware of anybody predicting death and mayhem

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Re: RE: Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:29 am

UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:



I'm not aware of anybody predicting death and mayhem
but what was most commonly predicted has come true

But you'd never know because "It hasn't happened to you" personally so it hasn't happened
and a Republican hasn't complained yet to any of your sources (because they're on the Comcast dole)

but throttling happens every day
and I'm not going to explain it to you
Just remember: Comcast has your best interest at heart
It's not just throttling. I have Comcast for internet because I don't have any other viable high speed alternatives. I pay $90/month for 150gb download with a 1 terrabyte max per month. If I lived 5-10 miles north in Wisconsin I could get 200gb download and I don't think there's a max for $45/month. The $45 difference isn't all because of regulatory fees, a big chunk of it is price gouging by a monopoly.



Comcast and TW paid good money to our Representatives to allow them to become monopolies
and then paid more money to have legislation written to protect those monopolies basically "forever"
and then to make it impossible to litigate against them (That's my favorite)

Comcast can write a contract (a legal binding document) that you must sign
Then they can break it at will and not be held accountable
however if you break it they can sue you or destroy your credit

:nod:

True story
Imagine if Google or other "Lefty" Corps
could write contracts and legally disregard them with no consequences ..?

Who else has such legal immunity in this country..?
How would you define a Republican?
"Somebody comfortable betting that science is wrong and oil companies are right..."

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Re: RE: Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby UNI88 » Sun May 12, 2019 6:00 pm

UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

I'm not aware of anybody predicting death and mayhem
but what was most commonly predicted has come true

But you'd never know because "It hasn't happened to you" personally so it hasn't happened
and a Republican hasn't complained yet to any of your sources (because they're on the Comcast dole)

but throttling happens every day
and I'm not going to explain it to you
Just remember: Comcast has your best interest at heart


It's not just throttling. I have Comcast for internet because I don't have any other viable high speed alternatives. I pay $90/month for 150gb download with a 1 terrabyte max per month. If I lived 5-10 miles north in Wisconsin I could get 200gb download and I don't think there's a max for $45/month. The $45 difference isn't all because of regulatory fees, a big chunk of it is price gouging by a monopoly.


So I have Comcast in Portland with the exact same plan that I had in Illinois and what does it cost?

Spoiler: show
$35/month


Why the difference? Is there more bandwidth in the Pacific NW? Is data cheaper here? Or is it because I have alternatives and they need to keep the price lower to compete? Were they using their essential monopoly in my neighborhood in Illinois to price-gouge?

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Re: RE: Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Sun May 12, 2019 6:20 pm

UNI88 wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
It's not just throttling. I have Comcast for internet because I don't have any other viable high speed alternatives. I pay $90/month for 150gb download with a 1 terrabyte max per month. If I lived 5-10 miles north in Wisconsin I could get 200gb download and I don't think there's a max for $45/month. The $45 difference isn't all because of regulatory fees, a big chunk of it is price gouging by a monopoly.


So I have Comcast in Portland with the exact same plan that I had in Illinois and what does it cost?

Spoiler: show
$35/month


Why the difference? Is there more bandwidth in the Pacific NW? Is data cheaper here? Or is it because I have alternatives and they need to keep the price lower to compete? Were they using their essential monopoly in my neighborhood in Illinois to price-gouge?


It's entirely based on Oregon legislation that allows for regional ISP competition...
Unlike the vast majority of states - that have been bribed into legislating monopolies

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:04 pm

THANKS!
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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Sun May 12, 2019 8:08 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:THANKS!
:notworthy:


You are welcome

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are you using Brocade or Ruckus switches on your Enterprise grade deployments these days..?

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

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Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:THANKS!
:notworthy:


You are welcome

:nod:

BTW:
are you using Brocade or Ruckus switches on your Enterprise grade deployments these days..?

:geek:


Neither.

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Sun May 12, 2019 9:12 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You are welcome

:nod:

BTW:
are you using Brocade or Ruckus switches on your Enterprise grade deployments these days..?

:geek:


Neither.

HP J4899B ProCurve 2650 48 port PoE+ - built like a tank, lifetime warranty for anything that happens to it. (Even stupid customers)


those are 10/100 switches...

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Chizzang » Sun May 12, 2019 10:48 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:HP 2530 J9772A ProCurve 48 Port Gigabit Switch

I copied the wrong link.......you know its cuz Im really stupid


The Aruba stuff is solid
the wi-fi is pretty good

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

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Re: WA Gov: ISP's Can Suck It

Postby Ivytalk » Sat May 18, 2019 11:45 am

Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:HP 2530 J9772A ProCurve 48 Port Gigabit Switch

I copied the wrong link.......you know its cuz Im really stupid


The Aruba stuff is solid


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