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It’s not as though California policymakers have neglected to wage war on poverty. Sacramento and local governments have spent massive amounts in the cause. Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau. California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation’s welfare recipients.

California Democrats have long been free to indulge blue-state ideology while paying little or no political price.

The generous spending, then, has not only failed to decrease poverty; it actually seems to have made it worse.

93henfan wrote:This is the sort of shit that would make you chain your 13 kids in the basement and feed them Alpo.

93henfan wrote:This is the sort of shit that would make you chain your 13 kids in the basement and feed them Alpo.

CAA Flagship wrote:

93henfan wrote:This is the sort of shit that would make you chain your 13 kids in the basement and feed them Alpo.

For those that didn't get this:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/california ... -1.4489418

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

A version of this article has been written every two years for 25 years...
and zilch - zip - nothing happens

The people that should be leaving California are the middle class - Not the elite wealthy
California is still one of the fastest growing states (usually it is the fastest)

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

A version of this article has been written every two years for 25 years...
and zilch - zip - nothing happens

The people that should be leaving California are the middle class - Not the elite wealthy
California is still one of the fastest growing states (usually it is the fastest)

SDHornet wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

Don't worry, they've been steadily leaving CA for a while now but this latest stuff should expedite the exodus. But the leftists in this state tax more than just the wealthy, they upped the gas tax and increased car registration recently so they are giving it to everyone.

Can't wait for the implosion.

houndawg wrote:Trivia: When we sold my parents home in CA in '94 the taxes were $600/year because of Prop. 13. The next door neighbors were $5800 for a slightly larger house on a smaller lot.

CAA Flagship wrote:

houndawg wrote:Trivia: When we sold my parents home in CA in '94 the taxes were $600/year because of Prop. 13. The next door neighbors were $5800 for a slightly larger house on a smaller lot.

What is Living Large as a Minority while Whitey Next Door Pays Your Way?

houndawg wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Don't worry, they've been steadily leaving CA for a while now but this latest stuff should expedite the exodus. But the leftists in this state tax more than just the wealthy, they upped the gas tax and increased car registration recently so they are giving it to everyone.

Can't wait for the implosion.

I have 20 acres that needs mowed so if you decide to leave I can throw you some work.

houndawg wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote: What is Living Large as a Minority while Whitey Next Door Pays Your Way?

lol....once the house left the family (and I took the old cars down off of their blocks) they jumped to over $5k.

houndawg wrote:Trivia: When we sold my parents home in CA in '94 the taxes were $600/year because of Prop. 13. The next door neighbors were $5800 for a slightly larger house on a smaller lot.

Col Hogan wrote:

houndawg wrote:
I have 20 acres that needs mowed so if you decide to leave I can throw you some work.

You’re in Illinois...why would anyone move there...

According to United Van Lines, Illinois tops the 2017 list with the highest per centage of moves being outbound moves...

https://www.unitedvanlines.com/contact- ... study-2017

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:Just wait until the rich start leaving.

Wealthy exodus to escape new tax rules worries California Democrats
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-gov ... 05279.html

An illustration of the stupidity of relying on the top 1% to provide 1/2 the funding by taxing the piss out of them, and if a chunk of them leave, you're screwed..

A version of this article has been written every two years for 25 years...
and zilch - zip - nothing happens

The people that should be leaving California are the middle class - Not the elite wealthy
California is still one of the fastest growing states (usually it is the fastest)

The state with the largest downside risk appears to be Illinois, which will lose one congressional seat in 2020 and is in danger of being the only state in the U.S. to lose two seats.

Illinois suffered the largest net population loss of any state in the past year, and due to that loss, it was overtaken by Pennsylvania this year as the fifth-largest state in the country. Major tax increases passed in 2017 will certainly not help this downward economic spiral.

The 2017 Census estimates also contain some troubling news for the nation’s largest state, California. While the 2010 Census was the first in state history to not add an additional congressional seat, 2020 could be worse for the Golden State.

Some current projections show high-tax California is on the bubble to actually lose a congressional seat in 2020 — a shocking development for a state that gained seven seats between 1980 and 1990 alone.

For history buffs, it is possible that high-tax Rhode Island will lose one of its two congressional seats in 2020. That will be the first time since 1789 that Rhode Island only has one congressional seat.

Meanwhile, another state with extremely high tax burdens, New York, is set to lose yet another seat in 2020, the eighth census in a row that the Empire State has forfeited seats. Going back to the 1940 Census, New York is currently down 18 congressional seats on net. The new count in 2020 would add to that alarming trend.

On a more optimistic note, a duo of no-income tax states (a key factor in economic competitiveness), Florida and Texas, are the likely big winners in 2020. Current projections have Florida gaining two new seats, with Texas likely set to gain two to three new seats.

93henfan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
A version of this article has been written every two years for 25 years...
and zilch - zip - nothing happens

The people that should be leaving California are the middle class - Not the elite wealthy
California is still one of the fastest growing states (usually it is the fastest)

Might want to brush up on current population trends:

The state with the largest downside risk appears to be Illinois, which will lose one congressional seat in 2020 and is in danger of being the only state in the U.S. to lose two seats.

Illinois suffered the largest net population loss of any state in the past year, and due to that loss, it was overtaken by Pennsylvania this year as the fifth-largest state in the country. Major tax increases passed in 2017 will certainly not help this downward economic spiral.

The 2017 Census estimates also contain some troubling news for the nation’s largest state, California. While the 2010 Census was the first in state history to not add an additional congressional seat, 2020 could be worse for the Golden State.

Some current projections show high-tax California is on the bubble to actually lose a congressional seat in 2020 — a shocking development for a state that gained seven seats between 1980 and 1990 alone.

For history buffs, it is possible that high-tax Rhode Island will lose one of its two congressional seats in 2020. That will be the first time since 1789 that Rhode Island only has one congressional seat.

Meanwhile, another state with extremely high tax burdens, New York, is set to lose yet another seat in 2020, the eighth census in a row that the Empire State has forfeited seats. Going back to the 1940 Census, New York is currently down 18 congressional seats on net. The new count in 2020 would add to that alarming trend.

On a more optimistic note, a duo of no-income tax states (a key factor in economic competitiveness), Florida and Texas, are the likely big winners in 2020. Current projections have Florida gaining two new seats, with Texas likely set to gain two to three new seats.

http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3695 ... tax-states

Chizzang wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Might want to brush up on current population trends:


http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3695 ... tax-states

Ya...
So retired people are moving to Florida and Texas
You don't say

The number of Americans ages 65 and older is projected to more than double from 46 million today to over 98 million by 2060, and the 65-and-older age group’s share of the total population will rise to nearly 24 percent from 15 percent.

Chizzang wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Might want to brush up on current population trends:


http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3695 ... tax-states

Ya...
So retired people are moving to Florida and Texas
You don't say

The number of Americans ages 65 and older is projected to more than double from 46 million today to over 98 million by 2060, and the 65-and-older age group’s share of the total population will rise to nearly 24 percent from 15 percent.

93henfan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
A version of this article has been written every two years for 25 years...
and zilch - zip - nothing happens

The people that should be leaving California are the middle class - Not the elite wealthy
California is still one of the fastest growing states (usually it is the fastest)

Might want to brush up on current population trends:

The state with the largest downside risk appears to be Illinois, which will lose one congressional seat in 2020 and is in danger of being the only state in the U.S. to lose two seats.

Illinois suffered the largest net population loss of any state in the past year, and due to that loss, it was overtaken by Pennsylvania this year as the fifth-largest state in the country. Major tax increases passed in 2017 will certainly not help this downward economic spiral.

The 2017 Census estimates also contain some troubling news for the nation’s largest state, California. While the 2010 Census was the first in state history to not add an additional congressional seat, 2020 could be worse for the Golden State.

Some current projections show high-tax California is on the bubble to actually lose a congressional seat in 2020 — a shocking development for a state that gained seven seats between 1980 and 1990 alone.

For history buffs, it is possible that high-tax Rhode Island will lose one of its two congressional seats in 2020. That will be the first time since 1789 that Rhode Island only has one congressional seat.

Meanwhile, another state with extremely high tax burdens, New York, is set to lose yet another seat in 2020, the eighth census in a row that the Empire State has forfeited seats. Going back to the 1940 Census, New York is currently down 18 congressional seats on net. The new count in 2020 would add to that alarming trend.

On a more optimistic note, a duo of no-income tax states (a key factor in economic competitiveness), Florida and Texas, are the likely big winners in 2020. Current projections have Florida gaining two new seats, with Texas likely set to gain two to three new seats.

http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3695 ... tax-states