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NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:42 pm
by CAA Flagship
https://therealdeal.com/2018/01/18/de-b ... s-shelter/
De Blasio wants the newest tenant on Billionaires’ Row to be a homeless shelter

The de Blasio administration is planning to open a shelter for 150 residents at 158 West 58th Street — the Park Savoy Hotel — in March, according to the New York Post. The Park Savoy stands back-to-back with One57, one of the glitziest apartment buildings in the city.

The shelter is part of the city’s plan to create 90 new shelters across the five boroughs, and the plans for the West 58th Street location came to light last week in letters to local politicians.

Mayor Bill de Blasio announced his “Turning the Tide on Homelessness” program last year and said neighbors would get a minimum of 30 days’ notice before a new shelter opened. He also said officials would take reasonable concerns and input from the community into account.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:39 pm
by dbackjon
Awesome. Better than concentrating them in one area.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:49 pm
by Rob Iola
I'll state the obvious - the city could sell that property and with the proceeds build a Taj Mahal shelter for 10 times the number of residents in a less pricey neighborhood.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:28 pm
by CAA Flagship
Rob Iola wrote:I'll state the obvious - the city could sell that property and with the proceeds build a Taj Mahal shelter for 10 times the number of residents in a less pricey neighborhood.
No. Much better this way. Property values will drop within each impact zone and the City will get less tax revenue. It's brilliant. What's a few hobos between neighbors? :mrgreen:

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:39 pm
by Chizzang
CAA Flagship wrote:
Rob Iola wrote:I'll state the obvious - the city could sell that property and with the proceeds build a Taj Mahal shelter for 10 times the number of residents in a less pricey neighborhood.
No. Much better this way. Property values will drop within each impact zone and the City will get less tax revenue. It's brilliant. What's a few hobos between neighbors? :mrgreen:
:rofl:

You said:
Property values will drop... in Midtown Manhattan

That's funny

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:44 pm
by VictorG
Rob Iola wrote:I'll state the obvious - the city could sell that property and with the proceeds build a Taj Mahal shelter for 10 times the number of residents in a less pricey neighborhood.
In Arizona!

I like what Hawaii does where any homeless or in-need person can get a free one-way ticket back to the mainland!

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:46 pm
by CAA Flagship
Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: No. Much better this way. Property values will drop within each impact zone and the City will get less tax revenue. It's brilliant. What's a few hobos between neighbors? :mrgreen:
:rofl:

You said:
Property values will drop... in Midtown Manhattan

That's funny
:lol:
OK, let's take it from another angle. The bums will have to panhandle $40 just to get a cheeseburger in that area of town. :mrgreen:

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:16 pm
by BDKJMU
Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: No. Much better this way. Property values will drop within each impact zone and the City will get less tax revenue. It's brilliant. What's a few hobos between neighbors? :mrgreen:
:rofl:

You said:
Property values will drop... in Midtown Manhattan

That's funny
Yep. Attaching homeless shelters to super high end properties will not cause their values to drop at all.. :dunce:..:lol:

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:27 pm
by Chizzang
BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:rofl:

You said:
Property values will drop... in Midtown Manhattan

That's funny
Yep. Attaching homeless shelters to super high end properties will not cause their values to drop at all.. :dunce:..:lol:
Sometimes it's cute how dumb you are
You don't really know anything about Manhattan, do you?

For the past 85 or so years Manhattan has been (some of) the most sought after real estate in the world
Let that sink in... "In the world"

There are global corporations that wait years for suites and floors of midtown buildings to become available
In many cases paying an annual fee just to hold their spot in line

:nod:

So... Take a close look at the piece of property in question
and this time next year it will be worth more than it is today
in this time in two years it will be worth more than that again - and again - and again

:coffee:

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:37 am
by BDKJMU
Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Yep. Attaching homeless shelters to super high end properties will not cause their values to drop at all.. :dunce:..:lol:
Sometimes it's cute how dumb you are
You don't really know anything about Manhattan, do you?

For the past 85 or so years Manhattan has been (some of) the most sought after real estate in the world
Let that sink in... "In the world"

There are global corporations that wait years for suites and floors of midtown buildings to become available
In many cases paying an annual fee just to hold their spot in line

:nod:

So... Take a close look at the piece of property in question
and this time next year it will be worth more than it is today
in this time in two years it will be worth more than that again - and again - and again

:coffee:
Claiming attaching homeless shelters will have zero effect on the said properties values is silly. Whatever the properties are worth, or will rise to, they will be worth even more, or rise faster, without the homeless shelters attached.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:22 am
by Ibanez
Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Yep. Attaching homeless shelters to super high end properties will not cause their values to drop at all.. :dunce:..:lol:
Sometimes it's cute how dumb you are
You don't really know anything about Manhattan, do you?

For the past 85 or so years Manhattan has been (some of) the most sought after real estate in the world
Let that sink in... "In the world"

There are global corporations that wait years for suites and floors of midtown buildings to become available
In many cases paying an annual fee just to hold their spot in line

:nod:

So... Take a close look at the piece of property in question
and this time next year it will be worth more than it is today
in this time in two years it will be worth more than that again - and again - and again

:coffee:
I have to agree. Buildings are often times 100% leased months-years before construction ends. Bank of America built 1 Bryant Park - it's 100% occupied and the bank STILL has no room to put its own associates. Same thing is happening here in Charlotte with several companies and towers that are under construction.

I could see a decrease in value - but it'd be a drop in the bucket. It wouldn't even register.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:24 am
by Ibanez
I'm sure this already happens, but do any of these shelters allow the address to be used for residency purposes. That way, homeless people can apply for jobs (the one's that aren't on the streets due to mental issues and such?)

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:11 am
by Chizzang
BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Sometimes it's cute how dumb you are
You don't really know anything about Manhattan, do you?

For the past 85 or so years Manhattan has been (some of) the most sought after real estate in the world
Let that sink in... "In the world"

There are global corporations that wait years for suites and floors of midtown buildings to become available
In many cases paying an annual fee just to hold their spot in line

:nod:

So... Take a close look at the piece of property in question
and this time next year it will be worth more than it is today
in this time in two years it will be worth more than that again - and again - and again

:coffee:
Claiming attaching homeless shelters will have zero effect on the said properties values is silly. Whatever the properties are worth, or will rise to, they will be worth even more, or rise faster, without the homeless shelters attached.
Nope.. BDKJMU ^ What you're doing there is called "Emphasis shifting"
You didn't completely understand what you were talking about and were trying to make a point
and now you're working backwards or "shifting the emphasis" of your previous meaningless point

:coffee:

Your point: is still meaningless - so "shift away" my friend

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:42 am
by JoltinJoe
Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: No. Much better this way. Property values will drop within each impact zone and the City will get less tax revenue. It's brilliant. What's a few hobos between neighbors? :mrgreen:
:rofl:

You said:
Property values will drop... in Midtown Manhattan

That's funny
How true. The other things is that the homeless people are already there all day. This is where they go to ask for money. I mean, where does CAA think they go? Mott Haven? This really changes nothing, except it just shortens the walking distance to "work."

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:31 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Yep. Attaching homeless shelters to super high end properties will not cause their values to drop at all.. :dunce:..:lol:
Sometimes it's cute how dumb you are
You don't really know anything about Manhattan, do you?

For the past 85 or so years Manhattan has been (some of) the most sought after real estate in the world
Let that sink in... "In the world"

There are global corporations that wait years for suites and floors of midtown buildings to become available
In many cases paying an annual fee just to hold their spot in line

:nod:

So... Take a close look at the piece of property in question
and this time next year it will be worth more than it is today
in this time in two years it will be worth more than that again - and again - and again

:coffee:
Well, I just gave up my place in line. So there’s that.

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:59 am
by Col Hogan
Rich NIMBY’s :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: NYC is getting what they voted for

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:17 am
by Ivytalk
Col Hogan wrote:Rich NIMBY’s :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
They prolly all voted for DiBlahzio, too. :roll: