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Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby VictorG » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:42 pm

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby dbackjon » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:47 pm

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Grizalltheway » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:52 pm

<insert "they have internet in Montana?" joke here>

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby dbackjon » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:08 pm

Grizalltheway wrote:<insert "they have internet in Montana?" joke here>




How does this effect HughesNet?
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby VictorG » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:10 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:<insert "they have internet in Montana?" joke here>




How does this effect HughesNet?


Only if they want part of a state contract which they are NOT fast enough to get anyway.....
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Grizalltheway wrote:<insert "they have internet in Montana?" joke here>

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby dbackjon » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:14 pm

VictorG wrote:
dbackjon wrote:


How does this effect HughesNet?


Only if they want part of a state contract which they are NOT fast enough to get anyway.....



((That was a joke - only internet in Montana is via satellite, right? :tothehand:
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

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dbackjon wrote:
VictorG wrote:
Only if they want part of a state contract which they are NOT fast enough to get anyway.....



((That was a joke - only internet in Montana is via satellite, right? :tothehand:

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Grizalltheway » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:27 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

((That was a joke - only internet in Montana is via satellite, right? :tothehand:

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Nice try, I only use Cold Smoke cans. :coffee:

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby VictorG » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:43 pm

dbackjon wrote:
VictorG wrote:
Only if they want part of a state contract which they are NOT fast enough to get anyway.....



((That was a joke - only internet in Montana is via satellite, right? :tothehand:


For us "real montanians" that is true. Dem "city slickers" might have sumpthin else!
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:59 pm

How many contracts or how many companies does this legislation end up affecting? Any? How will they measure this for compliance? I mean, it sounds great, but does it do anything? What wonderful legislation is next on their plate, raising minimum wage by a $0.25? Free dentistry to all Montana's who still have all their teeth?
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Grizalltheway » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:10 pm

GannonFan wrote:How many contracts or how many companies does this legislation end up affecting? Any? How will they measure this for compliance? I mean, it sounds great, but does it do anything? What wonderful legislation is next on their plate, raising minimum wage by a $0.25? Free dentistry to all Montana's who still have all their teeth?

Executive order, not legislation. Do Transylvanians know how to read? :ohno:

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

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Grizalltheway wrote:
GannonFan wrote:How many contracts or how many companies does this legislation end up affecting? Any? How will they measure this for compliance? I mean, it sounds great, but does it do anything? What wonderful legislation is next on their plate, raising minimum wage by a $0.25? Free dentistry to all Montana's who still have all their teeth?

Executive order, not legislation. Do Transylvanians know how to read? :ohno:


Details, smhetails, I want to know what other far reaching actions Montana's government is ready to tackle.
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby VictorG » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:24 pm

Ya can't just "fox News This"....the following is the 1st part of the Article...

HELENA -- Montana's governor on Monday signed an executive order that will require all internet and data providers to adhere to net neutrality principles if they want to be awarded state contracts.

Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat, signed the order in front of a computer science class at Helena High.

"When the FCC repealed its net neutrality rules, it said consumers should choose. The state of Montana is one of the biggest consumers of internet services in our state. Today we're making our choice clear: We want net neutrality," Bullock told the class.
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby GannonFan » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:28 pm

VictorG wrote:Ya can't just "fox News This"....the following is the 1st part of the Article...

HELENA -- Montana's governor on Monday signed an executive order that will require all internet and data providers to adhere to net neutrality principles if they want to be awarded state contracts.

Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat, signed the order in front of a computer science class at Helena High.

"When the FCC repealed its net neutrality rules, it said consumers should choose. The state of Montana is one of the biggest consumers of internet services in our state. Today we're making our choice clear: We want net neutrality," Bullock told the class.


So how do they measure that? Is it just in the state that the providers are net neutral? Anywhere and everywhere? Serious question.
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Chizzang » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:00 pm

GannonFan wrote:
VictorG wrote:Ya can't just "fox News This"....the following is the 1st part of the Article...

HELENA -- Montana's governor on Monday signed an executive order that will require all internet and data providers to adhere to net neutrality principles if they want to be awarded state contracts.

Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat, signed the order in front of a computer science class at Helena High.

"When the FCC repealed its net neutrality rules, it said consumers should choose. The state of Montana is one of the biggest consumers of internet services in our state. Today we're making our choice clear: We want net neutrality," Bullock told the class.


So how do they measure that? Is it just in the state that the providers are net neutral? Anywhere and everywhere? Serious question.



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There's a multitude a free software available that anybody can install on any connected device...
It's easy to test if you know what you're doing '

Here's a question for you:
Comcast charges $79.95 for 100 mbps broadband service
And so when you go to the "speed test" sites it'll confirm you're getting 100 mbps
Only one problem, you're not, you're getting 80 mbps

Speed test shows you 100 mbps because it's owned by Comcast
when you go to a privately owned internet measurement site you'll notice significant drop off in mbps

So my question to you is:
Should Comcast provide what they say they're providing..?
Or just hide behind the new repeal that lets them say whatever they want and provide whatever they want
and nobody can do a damned thing about them promising one thing and delivering something else

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Go here to find out what you're actually getting
https://fast.com/en/
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby VictorG » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:10 pm

GannonFan wrote:
VictorG wrote:Ya can't just "fox News This"....the following is the 1st part of the Article...

HELENA -- Montana's governor on Monday signed an executive order that will require all internet and data providers to adhere to net neutrality principles if they want to be awarded state contracts.

Gov. Steve Bullock, a Democrat, signed the order in front of a computer science class at Helena High.

"When the FCC repealed its net neutrality rules, it said consumers should choose. The state of Montana is one of the biggest consumers of internet services in our state. Today we're making our choice clear: We want net neutrality," Bullock told the class.


So how do they measure that? Is it just in the state that the providers are net neutral? Anywhere and everywhere? Serious question.


I believe everything the state does as far as procurement of products and services is done by "bid". It's pretty extensive and I can only assume they have verification involved in the process. However I cannot answer your question "for certain".

I'm sure the State of Montana can only make providers follow net neutral policies within the State of Montana.
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby CID1990 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:14 pm

As with a previous thread, I'm wondering where you guys think Montana is getting its internet from?

This is political pablum for the soft brained

The internets aren't some wellspring from where your YouTube magically appears, and your state has no control over speed


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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Chizzang » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:27 pm

CID1990 wrote:As with a previous thread, I'm wondering where you guys think Montana is getting its internet from?

This is political pablum for the soft brained

The internets aren't some wellspring from where your YouTube magically appears, and your state has no control over speed



Apparently
The state has no control over High Powered Utility Lines and the water quality either...
(Ask Detroit about water)

For starters:
The ISP manages the Infrastructure and takes the tax dollars and service fees
and use those funds to create a sustainable framework
And the STATE can fine penalize and generally harass the ISP broadband company

It sounds to me like YOU'RE confused
I can help you with this - ask a more detailed question
and if you think ISP don't throttle you just might be the soft brained one here
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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby CID1990 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:35 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:As with a previous thread, I'm wondering where you guys think Montana is getting its internet from?

This is political pablum for the soft brained

The internets aren't some wellspring from where your YouTube magically appears, and your state has no control over speed



Apparently
The state has no control over High Powered Utility Lines and the water quality either...
(Ask Detroit about water)

For starters:
The ISP manages the Infrastructure and takes the tax dollars and service fees
and use those funds to create a sustainable framework
And the STATE can fine penalize and generally harass the ISP broadband company

It sounds to me like YOU'RE confused
I can help you with this - ask a more detailed question
and if you think ISP don't throttle you're might be the soft brained one here


ORLY?

Read what I wrote again

If Comcast decides Montana gets 2 Mb/s, then Montana gets 2 Mb/s

cute little states and their little net neutrality rules


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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Grizalltheway » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:27 pm

GannonFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Executive order, not legislation. Do Transylvanians know how to read? :ohno:


Details, smhetails, I want to know what other far reaching actions Montana's government is ready to tackle.

Meh, if nothing else, it gave a policy intern something to do for a couple days.

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Chizzang » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:24 pm

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

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We get the government we deserve. :nod:

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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby ALPHAGRIZ1 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:32 am

Chizzang wrote:Here's a simple tool...
https://www.fing.io/support/internet-sp ... 3e89e3f4c7


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Re: Montana governor's order requires net neutrality for companies seeking state contracts

Postby Chizzang » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:19 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Here's a simple tool...
https://www.fing.io/support/internet-sp ... 3e89e3f4c7


I use Fing everyday


I had to for my business because Comcast sold me 150 Mbps and was delivering about 85 Mbps
Of course when I went to "speed test" which they own it showed 150 Mbps
but everywhere else it measure about 85 Mbps

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