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I am working remotely this week in a place where I can have the TV on while I'm working early int he morning so I decided to try watching CNN from 5 - 6 am CDT, Fox News from 6 - 7am, then MSNBC from 7 - 8 am.

It's amazing. I started the day before yesterday. CNN very quickly focused on the story about Trump campaign aid Rick Gates, who had frequent phone calls in September and October 2016 with a person the F.B.I. believes had active links to Russian spy services.

I heard absolutely NO reference to that story during my hour of watching Fox News. Instead, I heard a lot about the Justice Department Inspector General starting an investigation into the FISA warrants thing. BTW I heard nothing at all about THAT during my hour of watching CNN.

Today I did it again. This time CNN did make a reference to Jeff Sessions declining to appoint a special counsel. And one talking head referred to the Republican push to investigate the FBI as "tinfoil hat" stuff. And of course there was more stuff on Rick Gates.

Then when I watched my hour of Fox News, again, there was not a peep about the Rick Gates story. And they had a news babe on there saying that her sources tell her there are going to be criminal referrals in the IG report and that after THAT Sessions will probably appoint a special counsel.

BTW MSNBC's morning Joe didn't talk about EITHER that I recall. They talked about other stuff.

We have a serious problem with cable news options.

You’ve just discovered this???

JSO,
1. No shit
2. Understand that much of those particular news items are from unidentified "sources", meaning that the reporter is likely the only one with the story. Fox won't report on information from someone else's unidentified source, and vice-versa, without confirming it on their own. And if it can't be confirmed by the "opposition" news, there's a chance it's not the whole truth.

CAA Flagship wrote:JSO,
1. No ****
2. Understand that much of those particular news items are from unidentified "sources", meaning that the reporter is likely the only one with the story. Fox won't report on information from someone else's unidentified source, and vice-versa, without confirming it on their own. And if it can't be confirmed by the "opposition" news, there's a chance it's not the whole truth.

The thing about Trump Campaign worker Rick Gates having contacts with the Russian is in a document filed by Mueller in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/p ... gence.html). It's part of the official public record. Fox news not mentioning it cannot be explained by the sort of thing you're talking about.

Also the fact that the Justice Department IG is opening an investigation of the FISA process is public record. CNN not reporting on THAT can't be explained by the sort of thing you're talking about either.

As soon as people figure out that TV news is a business AND journalism simultaneously

and that journalism will always take a back seat when business is concerned

all of what we see on the TV will make complete sense


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CID1990 wrote:As soon as people figure out that TV news is a business AND journalism simultaneously

and that journalism will always take a back seat when business is concerned

all of what we see on the TV will make complete sense


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Well said.

Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business

Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business
Huh
Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Thanks for the pep talk, Dr. Kevorkian. May I kill myself now?

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business
Huh
Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Thanks for the pep talk, Dr. Kevorkian. May I kill myself now?

Here take this...

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business

Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Not ALWAYS. Like for instance I remember NFL Scout Chris Landry on the radio one time talking about a defensive tackle at BYU. The guy was going to be a high first round draft choice. But he let everybody know he wasn't going to play NFL football because it'd mean he'd have to play on Sundays. People didn't believe him. If I remember correctly somebody drafted him anyway. Not in the first round given he said he wasn't going to play. But they took a shot at drafting him in the middle rounds hoping they could convince him to play.

But they didn't convince him to play. I think Landry said he went on to become a school teacher.

One of my brothers has a daughter with an IQ in the 160s. She could do just about anything she wants. She could be a Doctor. She could be a Lawyer. She could be an Engineer. But what she wants is to work in a local recreation department. And she's perfectly happy doing that. She enjoys it.

Money's not everything to me either. I mean, it's a lot. It's a consideration. But for instance I decided a long time ago that I will NEVER take a job such that I'd have to supervise other people. Also I've passed on making more money based on where I'd have to live.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business

Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Not ALWAYS. Like for instance I remember NFL Scout Chris Landry on the radio one time talking about a defensive tackle at BYU. The guy was going to be a high first round draft choice. But he let everybody know he wasn't going to play NFL football because it'd mean he'd have to play on Sundays. People didn't believe him. If I remember correctly somebody drafted him anyway. Not in the first round given he said he wasn't going to play. But they took a shot at drafting him in the middle rounds hoping they could convince him to play.

But they didn't convince him to play. I think Landry said he went on to become a school teacher.

One of my brothers has a daughter with an IQ in the 160s. She could do just about anything she wants. She could be a Doctor. She could be a Lawyer. She could be an Engineer. But what she wants is to work in a local recreation department. And she's perfectly happy doing that. She enjoys it.

Money's not everything to me either. I mean, it's a lot. It's a consideration. But for instance I decided a long time ago that I will NEVER take a job such that I'd have to supervise other people. Also I've passed on making more money based on where I'd have to live.

You stay in a swamp voluntarily?!

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business

Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

Not ALWAYS. Like for instance I remember NFL Scout Chris Landry on the radio one time talking about a defensive tackle at BYU. The guy was going to be a high first round draft choice. But he let everybody know he wasn't going to play NFL football because it'd mean he'd have to play on Sundays. People didn't believe him. If I remember correctly somebody drafted him anyway. Not in the first round given he said he wasn't going to play. But they took a shot at drafting him in the middle rounds hoping they could convince him to play.

But they didn't convince him to play. I think Landry said he went on to become a school teacher.

One of my brothers has a daughter with an IQ in the 160s. She could do just about anything she wants. She could be a Doctor. She could be a Lawyer. She could be an Engineer. But what she wants is to work in a local recreation department. And she's perfectly happy doing that. She enjoys it.

Money's not everything to me either. I mean, it's a lot. It's a consideration. But for instance I decided a long time ago that I will NEVER take a job such that I'd have to supervise other people. Also I've passed on making more money based on where I'd have to live.

John,
I too am thrilled at the occasional outlier
and every time in my life I ever made a decision based more on money than anything else
Every time - I regretted it...

But none of that is really more than anecdotal and charming
The reality is stark and plain to see

We build M1 Abrams tanks that the Military routinely declines - and we build them anyway
Now the Marines have 9,000 tanks of which they claim they need 400 to 500
And we'll be building more next year (Just watch)

John, ^ That is the reality...
and Teachers go on strike for a pay raise

Go figure..

AshevilleApp wrote: You stay in a swamp voluntarily?!

Oh yeah. As you know, I love the swamplands. The wetlands. The marshes.

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
Not ALWAYS. Like for instance I remember NFL Scout Chris Landry on the radio one time talking about a defensive tackle at BYU. The guy was going to be a high first round draft choice. But he let everybody know he wasn't going to play NFL football because it'd mean he'd have to play on Sundays. People didn't believe him. If I remember correctly somebody drafted him anyway. Not in the first round given he said he wasn't going to play. But they took a shot at drafting him in the middle rounds hoping they could convince him to play.

But they didn't convince him to play. I think Landry said he went on to become a school teacher.

One of my brothers has a daughter with an IQ in the 160s. She could do just about anything she wants. She could be a Doctor. She could be a Lawyer. She could be an Engineer. But what she wants is to work in a local recreation department. And she's perfectly happy doing that. She enjoys it.

Money's not everything to me either. I mean, it's a lot. It's a consideration. But for instance I decided a long time ago that I will NEVER take a job such that I'd have to supervise other people. Also I've passed on making more money based on where I'd have to live.

John,
I too am thrilled at the occasional outlier
and every time in my life I ever made a decision based more on money than anything else
Every time - I regretted it...

But none of that is really more than anecdotal and charming
The reality is stark and plain to see

We build M1 Abrams tanks that the Military routinely declines - and we build them anyway
Now the Marines have 9,000 tanks of which they claim they need 400 to 500
And we'll be building more next year (Just watch)

John, ^ That is the reality...
and Teachers go on strike for a pay raise

Go figure..

An anecdote works if the statement is something like "not always." To unequivocally support a statement like "not always" all you need to do is point to at least one exception.

But, really, I don't know what the numbers are but it's pretty clear to me that there are pretty many people who do not make getting as much money as they can the top priority. I think that the overwhelming majority of the people DO want to make enough money to live comfortably. But people make decisions all the time where they balance other factors against how much money they can make and choose not to pursue the path likely to lead to the most money.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Oh lets do this..!!!

About the same time we learn that ^ we also learn
healthcare is a business more than it is anything else...
And housing is a business
and food also a business

Everything takes a back seat to money...

Including
Happiness / Honesty / Dignity / Humanity / Common Sense

All things go by the wayside when measured against money

and you wonder why people either find some variant of God or some variant of Nihilism
Because the reality of our condition is a form of insanity

But for instance I decided a long time ago that I will NEVER take a job such that I'd have to supervise other people.

John, I’ll support you in this!

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
John,
I too am thrilled at the occasional outlier
and every time in my life I ever made a decision based more on money than anything else
Every time - I regretted it...

But none of that is really more than anecdotal and charming
The reality is stark and plain to see

We build M1 Abrams tanks that the Military routinely declines - and we build them anyway
Now the Marines have 9,000 tanks of which they claim they need 400 to 500
And we'll be building more next year (Just watch)

John, ^ That is the reality...
and Teachers go on strike for a pay raise

Go figure..

An anecdote works if the statement is something like "not always." To unequivocally support a statement like "not always" all you need to do is point to at least one exception.

But, really, I don't know what the numbers are but it's pretty clear to me that there are pretty many people who do not make getting as much money as they can the top priority. I think that the overwhelming majority of the people DO want to make enough money to live comfortably. But people make decisions all the time where they balance other factors against how much money they can make and choose not to pursue the path likely to lead to the most money.

People do john,
Corporations don't
and we are watching the live results of that dichotomy play out in our society today

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
An anecdote works if the statement is something like "not always." To unequivocally support a statement like "not always" all you need to do is point to at least one exception.

But, really, I don't know what the numbers are but it's pretty clear to me that there are pretty many people who do not make getting as much money as they can the top priority. I think that the overwhelming majority of the people DO want to make enough money to live comfortably. But people make decisions all the time where they balance other factors against how much money they can make and choose not to pursue the path likely to lead to the most money.

People do john,
Corporations don't
and we are watching the live results of that dichotomy play out in our society today

You know I think your are right when it comes to public corporations who are traded in the stock exchanges.

Chizzang wrote: and every time in my life I ever made a decision based more on money than anything else
Every time - I regretted it...

I say BS. I don't believe that to be the case EVERY TIME. I think you just remember the times it backfired more.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

People do john,
Corporations don't
and we are watching the live results of that dichotomy play out in our society today

You know I think your are right when it comes to public corporations who are traded in the stock exchanges.

Yup...