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I'm not kidding...
My confidence is very high that Americans can actually pay more for things
Re-focus on building our own businesses and live through an extended trade war with China



I'm not kidding

In general, the country with fewer labor laws and a more cavalier attitude about workplace safety and regulations will win trade wars. In other words, not us.

Here is where the left can lead the country for once, they love paying higher taxes so this should be a no brainer.

Chizzang wrote:I'm not kidding...
My confidence is very high that Americans can actually pay more for things
Re-focus on building our own businesses and live through an extended trade war with China



I'm not kidding

Whatever, Mr. Hawley-Smoot!

Pwns wrote:In general, the country with fewer labor laws and a more cavalier attitude about workplace safety and regulations will win trade wars. In other words, not us.

Yeah but mostly what China provides for us is plastic sh!t...
I'm not convinced that we are incapable of taking back some of the manufacturing we surrendered

Chizzang wrote:

Pwns wrote:In general, the country with fewer labor laws and a more cavalier attitude about workplace safety and regulations will win trade wars. In other words, not us.

Yeah but mostly what China provides for us is plastic sh!t...
I'm not convinced that we are incapable of taking back some of the manufacturing we surrendered

Not to mention, they still would like that 330 million person market to sell plastic shit to.

Chizzang wrote:

Pwns wrote:In general, the country with fewer labor laws and a more cavalier attitude about workplace safety and regulations will win trade wars. In other words, not us.

Yeah but mostly what China provides for us is plastic sh!t...
I'm not convinced that we are incapable of taking back some of the manufacturing we surrendered

We’e already substituting Vietnamese and Malaysian plastic shyt for Chinese plastic shyt. Substitution principle at work!

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Yeah but mostly what China provides for us is plastic sh!t...
I'm not convinced that we are incapable of taking back some of the manufacturing we surrendered

We’e already substituting Vietnamese and Malaysian plastic shyt for Chinese plastic shyt. Substitution principle at work!

Not to mention a great deal of clothing manufacturing has been feeling China.

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Yeah but mostly what China provides for us is plastic sh!t...
I'm not convinced that we are incapable of taking back some of the manufacturing we surrendered

We’e already substituting Vietnamese and Malaysian plastic shyt for Chinese plastic shyt. Substitution principle at work!

The Indians (dot) should not left out either.

Chizzang wrote:I'm not kidding...
My confidence is very high that Americans can actually pay more for things
Re-focus on building our own businesses and live through an extended trade war with China



I'm not kidding

Well, we proved we could survive $4.00/gallon gasoline in the middle of a huge recession.

Ibanez wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: We’e already substituting Vietnamese and Malaysian plastic shyt for Chinese plastic shyt. Substitution principle at work!

Not to mention a great deal of clothing manufacturing has been feeling China.

*fleeing

Ivytalk wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Not to mention a great deal of clothing manufacturing has been feeling China.

*fleeing

Yup. That two.

Actually, I squandered an opportunity for a "fleece" joke.

Ibanez wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: *fleeing

Yup. That two.

Actually, I squandered an opportunity for a "fleece" joke.

That is an interesting point in all of this - China is not really the low-cost producer of choice anymore in the world. As part of the evolution of their industry, they can't compete with other low-cost countries as much as they could pre-recession. There's a reason why China's growth has slowed as much as it has in the past 10 years.

As for a trade war, we still need each other more than not so I'm sure this will work itself out. Nothing wrong with poking the Tiger every now and then if we feel they aren't playing nice.

GannonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote: Yup. That two.

Actually, I squandered an opportunity for a "fleece" joke.

That is an interesting point in all of this - China is not really the low-cost producer of choice anymore in the world. As part of the evolution of their industry, they can't compete with other low-cost countries as much as they could pre-recession. There's a reason why China's growth has slowed as much as it has in the past 10 years.

As for a trade war, we still need each other more than not so I'm sure this will work itself out. Nothing wrong with poking the Tiger every now and then if we feel they aren't playing nice.

Yes. Increased energy and labor costs have contributed to the exodus of clothing manufacturers for Vietnam, Bangledash, etc...

Several of my wife’s vendors moved last year to Vietnam.

Landing costs, among other things, are already high so this should help the small business owner.

Well our stern tut tutting of the past certainly hasn't worked on the Chinese

they are openly and actively engaged in just about every shady trade practice out there... the fact that we don't refer to it cynically as "Chinese trading" in name is because some scold would call it racist

I question whether this will work or not also, but the alternative, in the end, is to surrender to them

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... echnology/




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CID1990 wrote:Well our stern tut tutting of the past certainly hasn't worked on the Chinese

they are openly and actively engaged in just about every shady trade practice out there... the fact that we don't refer to it cynically as "Chinese trading" in name is because some scold would call it racist

I question whether this will work or not also, but the alternative, in the end, is to surrender to them

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... echnology/




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There isn’t a Chinaman’s chance of Drumpf backing down.

Ivytalk wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Well our stern tut tutting of the past certainly hasn't worked on the Chinese

they are openly and actively engaged in just about every shady trade practice out there... the fact that we don't refer to it cynically as "Chinese trading" in name is because some scold would call it racist

I question whether this will work or not also, but the alternative, in the end, is to surrender to them

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... echnology/




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There isn’t a Chinaman’s chance of Drumpf backing down.

Without question Trump is a pompous dipsh!t...
But his gut reaction (slash) knee jerk response to international bullsh!t is spot on



His response to immigration is probably wrong - but doing nothing was MORE wrong
His response to China is probably wrong - but doing nothing is MORE wrong
and there have been more examples... where he's wrong but NOTHING was more wrong

Look, one thing is certain
He's wrong a lot

But he's moving the peanut

Chizzang wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: There isn’t a Chinaman’s chance of Drumpf backing down.

Without question Trump is a pompous dipsh!t...
But his gut reaction (slash) knee jerk response to international bullsh!t is spot on



His response to immigration is probably wrong - but doing nothing was MORE wrong
His response to China is probably wrong - but doing nothing is MORE wrong
and there have been more examples... where he's wrong but NOTHING was more wrong

Look, one thing is certain
He's wrong a lot

But he's moving the peanut

I’d rather have Jill Stein’s finger on the big red button than the dipshit-in-chief’s.

Ivytalk wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Without question Trump is a pompous dipsh!t...
But his gut reaction (slash) knee jerk response to international bullsh!t is spot on



His response to immigration is probably wrong - but doing nothing was MORE wrong
His response to China is probably wrong - but doing nothing is MORE wrong
and there have been more examples... where he's wrong but NOTHING was more wrong

Look, one thing is certain
He's wrong a lot

But he's moving the peanut

I’d rather have Jill Stein’s finger on the big red button than the dipshit-in-chief’s.

Clitz would just be happy with his finger on Jill's little button


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CID1990 wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: I’d rather have Jill Stein’s finger on the big red button than the dipshit-in-chief’s.

Clitz would just be happy with his finger on Jill's little button


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I was hoping you’d be sniffing around!

Ivytalk wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Clitz would just be happy with his finger on Jill's little button


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I was hoping you’d be sniffing around!

Chizzang wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:

I was hoping you’d be sniffing around!

CID saw a pic of Jill in a bikini in another thread and it moved a little. Both he and Ivy would tap that blue haired beauty....

kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

CID saw a pic of Jill in a bikini in another thread and it moved a little. Both he and Ivy would tap that blue haired beauty....

Of course I would...

Shes not much older than me anyway - and you just know shes a wildcat

But I wouldn't want to get in Clodz's way


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kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

CID saw a pic of Jill in a bikini in another thread and it moved a little. Both he and Ivy would tap that blue haired beauty....

Ménage a trois for the Geritol Generation.

No homo.

Jill is a nut...
She gets arrested about 3 times a year
but she's no Hilary fan... Her comment something to the effect of
"Donald Trump is not what's wrong with Politics, Hilary Clinton is.."