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Inside the White House Bible Study group
By Owen Amos
BBC News, Washington DC
8 April 2018

For the first time in at least 100 years, the US Cabinet has a bible study group. What do they learn? What does Donald Trump make of it? And why aren't women allowed to teach?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43534724

Drollinger believes the Bible teaches the separation of church and state.

"We have to differentiate," he says. "And unfortunately, a lot of our evangelical religious right advocates have not made this differentiation."

In January, when a New York Times opinion piece described Drollinger and others as "Christian nationalists", he wrote a 1400-word letter to complain. What was his objection?

"It has the idea of tyranny when you take it to its extreme," he says.

"It means that I'm meeting with the Cabinet members clandestinely in order to overthrow the government - in the form that we presently have - for a theocracy. I mean, at the end of the day, that's the accusation, and I have to be strong on that."

But is a bible study for Cabinet members, with political themes, not a merging of church and state?

"I believe in institutional separation, but not influential separation," he says

"No matter what the institution is - the family, commerce, education - it needs the bulwark precepts of the word of God in order to function correctly…

"But the minute I start to amalgamate the church and the state institutionally, then I'm into theocracy."

Chizzang wrote:This is why sucking up to the Christian Right is a great idea if you want to get elected
But probably not a great idea for the Republic

True Believers are the most dangerous people on earth
God Bless their little hearts - they're so excited to usher in "The End Times"

GannonFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:This is why sucking up to the Christian Right is a great idea if you want to get elected
But probably not a great idea for the Republic

True Believers are the most dangerous people on earth
God Bless their little hearts - they're so excited to usher in "The End Times"

Well, you can call them "true believers" or "whackos" or what have you, but at the same time they're also called "voters". That's what makes the Republic so great - people get to vote for what they want.

And at the end of the day, even though I didn't vote for him, Trump's whackos are still far less dangerous than Ted Cruz's whackos.

Ibanez wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Well, you can call them "true believers" or "whackos" or what have you, but at the same time they're also called "voters". That's what makes the Republic so great - people get to vote for what they want.

And at the end of the day, even though I didn't vote for him, Trump's whackos are still far less dangerous than Ted Boobs's whackos.

89Hen wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

Has Spandos seen this?

GannonFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:This is why sucking up to the Christian Right is a great idea if you want to get elected
But probably not a great idea for the Republic

True Believers are the most dangerous people on earth
God Bless their little hearts - they're so excited to usher in "The End Times"

Well, you can call them "true believers" or "whackos" or what have you, but at the same time they're also called "voters". That's what makes the Republic so great - people get to vote for what they want.

And at the end of the day, even though I didn't vote for him, Trump's whackos are still far less dangerous than Ted Cruz's whackos.

Chizzang wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Well, you can call them "true believers" or "whackos" or what have you, but at the same time they're also called "voters". That's what makes the Republic so great - people get to vote for what they want.

And at the end of the day, even though I didn't vote for him, Trump's whackos are still far less dangerous than Ted Cruz's whackos.

So you think I don't understand that citizens get to vote..?

and
Anyone who's excited to hit the Red Button because Jesus is just dangerous

Chizzang wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Well, you can call them "true believers" or "whackos" or what have you, but at the same time they're also called "voters". That's what makes the Republic so great - people get to vote for what they want.

And at the end of the day, even though I didn't vote for him, Trump's whackos are still far less dangerous than Ted Boobs's whackos.

So you think I don't understand that citizens get to vote..?

and
Anyone who's excited to hit the Red Button because Jesus is just dangerous

css75 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
So you think I don't understand that citizens get to vote..?

and
Anyone who's excited to hit the Red Button because Jesus is just dangerous

Are you out of touch or what. I am an evangelical and neither I nor anyone I personally know, or know of in ministry is excited to hit the red button. Don’t let your prejudges clog your brain with nonsense. That is a JSO move you made.


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css75 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
So you think I don't understand that citizens get to vote..?

and
Anyone who's excited to hit the Red Button because Jesus is just dangerous

Are you out of touch or what. I am an evangelical and neither I nor anyone I personally know, or know of in ministry is excited to hit the red button. Don’t let your prejudges clog your brain with nonsense. That is a JSO move you made.

Chizzang wrote:

css75 wrote:
Are you out of touch or what. I am an evangelical and neither I nor anyone I personally know, or know of in ministry is excited to hit the red button. Don’t let your prejudges clog your brain with nonsense. That is a JSO move you made.

I'm out of touch



The good news is it's okay to buy a bunch of hookers and Porn Starts on the side
and then speak at a Pro Life Rally the next week

It is written...
The Old Testament Book of Donald
Have you gotten in touch with that ..?

Chizzang wrote:

css75 wrote:
Are you out of touch or what. I am an evangelical and neither I nor anyone I personally know, or know of in ministry is excited to hit the red button. Don’t let your prejudges clog your brain with nonsense. That is a JSO move you made.

I'm out of touch



The good news is it's okay to buy a bunch of hookers and Porn Starts on the side
and then speak at a Pro Life Rally the next week

It is written...
The Old Testament Book of Donald
Have you gotten in touch with that ..?

css75 wrote:

Chizzang wrote: I'm out of touch



The good news is it's okay to buy a bunch of hookers and Porn Starts on the side
and then speak at a Pro Life Rally the next week

It is written...
The Old Testament Book of Donald
Have you gotten in touch with that ..?

Trump is not or has claimed to be an Evangelical. He is no choirboy and everyone knows that. But he said he would have our backs and he has. Also, his affairs had taken place prior to being in office. Now where is the real JSO?


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Ibanez wrote:

css75 wrote:

Trump is not or has claimed to be an Evangelical. He is no choirboy and everyone knows that. But he said he would have our backs and he has. Also, his affairs had taken place prior to being in office. Now where is the real JSO?


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I find it interesting that Evangelicals would put so much trust into a man that doesn't share their values or morals.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I find it interesting that Evangelicals would put so much trust into a man that doesn't share their values or morals.

The word unprincipled comes to mind. And yes both sides are, and yes the fact we only have two sides to consider, supports this. Lesser of two evils, but Hillary...blah, blah, blah.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I find it interesting that Evangelicals would put so much trust into a man that doesn't share their values or morals.

The word unprincipled comes to mind. And yes both sides are, and yes the fact we only have two sides supports this. Lesser of two evils, but Hillary...blah, blah, blah.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I find it interesting that Evangelicals would put so much trust into a man that doesn't share their values or morals.

The word unprincipled comes to mind. And yes both sides are, and yes the fact we only have two sides supports this. Lesser of two evils, but Hillary...blah, blah, blah.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
The word unprincipled comes to mind. And yes both sides are, and yes the fact we only have two sides supports this. Lesser of two evils, but Hillary...blah, blah, blah.

Quotes from the left haven't encouraged them to jump ship either.

"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." - Obama

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Quotes from the left haven't encouraged them to jump ship either.

"They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." - Obama

Classic unprincipled/but Hillary (or Obama)

andy7171 wrote:I'm still not seeing how wanting to hit the red button equates to Jesus being dangerous. Is it a "Christian" vs Catholic thing I'm not understanding. If so just say yes, and I'll stop wondering. I don't have much exposure that most on this board seem to have with the a-hole religious right. Most of the a-hole religous types I know are catholic lefties.