I was agreeing with you...sorry it come off wrong.Ibanez wrote:I was fully supportive of Obama meeting with Castro. Our embargo with Cuba was stupid and served no purpose. You should know by now that i'm more centrist than R or L.∞∞∞ wrote: You mean this gem making the social media rounds:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx0IrdC4R4[/youtube]
Or how Obama's meeting with Raul Castro was criticized to holy hell by conservative circles?
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Trump officially nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by two Norwegian law makers...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ssion=trueA pair of Norwegian lawmakers has nominated President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize after he signed an agreement with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Tuesday to work toward the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
The nomination, reported by Norway's state broadcaster, NRK, comes a little more than a month after a group of House Republicans sent a letter to the Norwegian Nobel Committee formally requesting that the president be nominated for the coveted prize.
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If Trip saw Trump stopping a gang rape he would be pissed that a man didn't let a woman do what she wants with her body.
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Oh. I can't view videos but I took it the other way. My bad, Tripp.∞∞∞ wrote:I was agreeing with you...sorry it come off wrong.Ibanez wrote: I was fully supportive of Obama meeting with Castro. Our embargo with Cuba was stupid and served no purpose. You should know by now that i'm more centrist than R or L.
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Why not? He's done more for it than Obama did for his. They should have Obama hand his over.Col Hogan wrote:Trump officially nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by two Norwegian law makers...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ssion=trueA pair of Norwegian lawmakers has nominated President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize after he signed an agreement with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Tuesday to work toward the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
The nomination, reported by Norway's state broadcaster, NRK, comes a little more than a month after a group of House Republicans sent a letter to the Norwegian Nobel Committee formally requesting that the president be nominated for the coveted prize.
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Obama getting the Peace Prize was ridiculous and I think even Obama thinks so. But the Trump thing is very uncertain. My understanding is that what he got the other day is less than what others have gotten in terms of signed agreements with North Korea in the past. The problem is that the North Koreans have agreed to things then it didn't work out (https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron).Ibanez wrote:Why not? He's done more for it than Obama did for his. They should have Obama hand his over.Col Hogan wrote:Trump officially nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by two Norwegian law makers...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ssion=true
All that's really definitely happened at this point is that Trump gave the North Koreans something they've wanted for decades and couldn't get.
Also, I think that the Nobel committee is going to have heartburn over Trump blowing up the Iran nuclear deal. That kind of depends on whether or not the other parties to the agreement can make it work. But that's not going to be seen as a positive.
I've noted that some argue that the Iran nuclear deal was superior to what Trump just got with North Korea. So there's that.
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Seems like a major case of Trump derangement Syndrome. Better get a therapy dog.∞∞∞ wrote:FWIW, I've always disagreed about Obama's Peace Prize; he did nothing to earn it.93henfan wrote:Trip feigns support for the effort in his first post and comes around to his true colors quickly.
Liberals are dreading this whole thing. I’d love to have video of JSO last night.
Hey, why shouldn’t Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize? Obama got it nine months into his presidency for... well, nobody really knows. For being black I guess. Oh, and for sewing the seeds to destabilize numerous countries in the Middle East as well.
At least Trump is actually accomplishing things and putting America first.
And no, Trump isn't accomplishing anything but retreating the US' place in the World. He's threatened and implemented tariffs against long-standing allies, sucked Putin's dick time and time again, put us in a burgeoning trade war with China, weakened America's word by taking back the Iran deal, stirred up hateful rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, and our military forces are now killing civilians in the Middle East at an unprecedented pace. So while I want America to succeed with these specific peace talks, I'm not going to pretend Trump is genuinely interested in peace.
Ultimately people like Trump always, without fail, end up on the wrong side of history.
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BTW, remember this?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-his ... eace-prize
Maybe Kim Jong-un will win the Nobel Peace Prize.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-his ... eace-prize
Maybe Kim Jong-un will win the Nobel Peace Prize.
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See, that kind of stuff is really stupid. ANY US President could've done that. That kind of photo is what North Korea wanted and what past US Presidents didn't want to give them. This thing where people think that Trump accomplished something by meeting with a North Korean leader is just ridiculous. North Korean leaders had been trying to find a US President who would do that for decades.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:#MAGA
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JohnStOnge wrote:See, that kind of stuff is really stupid. ANY US President could've done that. That kind of photo is what North Korea wanted and what past US Presidents didn't want to give them. This thing where people think that Trump accomplished something by meeting with a North Korean leader is just ridiculous. North Korean leaders had been trying to find a US President who would do that for decades.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:#MAGA
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Just can’t let the hate go can you JSO? The Donald must occupy a very large space in your cranium.
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It's just the truth c. It's a well established matter of record. For decades North Korean dictators have wanted to deal one on one with US leaders. The US policy over many years was not to do it. Meeting with a North Korean dictator is NOT something that has ever been hard to do. It's giving something the North Koreans have wanted that the US has denied them in the past.css75 wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
See, that kind of stuff is really stupid. ANY US President could've done that. That kind of photo is what North Korea wanted and what past US Presidents didn't want to give them. This thing where people think that Trump accomplished something by meeting with a North Korean leader is just ridiculous. North Korean leaders had been trying to find a US President who would do that for decades.
Just can’t let the hate go can you JSO? The Donald must occupy a very large space in your cranium.
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Do you disagree with that? Do you disagree with the assertion that North Korean dictators have wanted this and past US Presidents have not been willing to give it to them?
Now, you can argue that maybe past US Presidents should have gone ahead and given it to them. But Obama or any US President could've met with a North Korean dictator any time they wanted to. Trump meeting with and shaking hands with the North Korean dictator is not something Obama or Bush II, or Clinton, or Bush I or so on couldn't have done if they'd wanted to do that.
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Politically they could not do it, JSO. Just like Truman couldn't make nice with Ho Chi Minh. Your obsession with Trump is blinding you to certain facts and realities - foremost here is that none of the last few Presidents could meet the Kims and not suffer political fallout... for what would likely have been too little return on the riskJohnStOnge wrote:It's just the truth c. It's a well established matter of record. For decades North Korean dictators have wanted to deal one on one with US leaders. The US policy over many years was not to do it. Meeting with a North Korean dictator is NOT something that has ever been hard to do. It's giving something the North Koreans have wanted that the US has denied them in the past.css75 wrote:
Just can’t let the hate go can you JSO? The Donald must occupy a very large space in your cranium.
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Do you disagree with that? Do you disagree with the assertion that North Korean dictators have wanted this and past US Presidents have not been willing to give it to them?
Now, you can argue that maybe past US Presidents should have gone ahead and given it to them. But Obama or any US President could've met with a North Korean dictator any time they wanted to. Trump meeting with and shaking hands with the North Korean dictator is not something Obama or Bush II, or Clinton, or Bush I or so on couldn't have done if they'd wanted to do that.
The real issue you and everybody else are missing is that Trump won't take any "deal" to Congress to put into treaty form- and in that respect it will be no different than the dumb Iran deal
Congress - both houses and both sides of the aisle - long ago abrogated their responsibilities in this area.... people were up in arms about the Iraq War but nobody blamed Congress. Up in arms about the Iran deal but nobody blamed Congress. Now up in arms about Kim - and nobody is blaming Congress. They have enabled every power grab by the executive and now we have Trump - who shouldnt be "an atrocity" if Congress ever asserted its authority
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I'm not too worried about the latter because of how he dealt with the shitty Iran deal. The Norks know he'll walk from a shitty deal so if the Norks are serious about denuking, there will be little, if any, limitations on inspections which would be a complete opposite of the laughable inspection protocols and limits of the Iran deal. But of course we'll have to wait and see. IMO how far this goes is all on KJU.Ibanez wrote:I thought this meeting was a good idea when the black guy said he'd consider it...SDHornet wrote:I'm not getting all the hate from the leftists (actually it's just TDS , so I get that) or the right wingers on this meeting. Trump gave up nothing (war games with SK are not a big deal, they are just our human shields if an actual war with NK ever broke out) and already got some minor concessions (American prisoners, renewal of bucks for bones program, and another denuke pledge from NK ). Worst case is this whole thing just goes back to the status quo of the last 15+ years of a nuclear NK.
I guess I just kind of view this whole meeting/negotiation as having a shit ton more upside than downside. I am having a hard time deciding whether to or at pundits deriding the thought of a unified/peaceful Korea. That fucking place has literally been at war for almost 68 years, not sure why talking a way into peace is a bad thing.
I think this is a good thing - as long as he doesn't fuck it up (i'm not holding my breath).
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Same here. No reason to not open up diplomatic road with Cuba, or anyone for that matter.Ibanez wrote:I was fully supportive of Obama meeting with Castro. Our embargo with Cuba was stupid and served no purpose. You should know by now that i'm more centrist than R or L.∞∞∞ wrote: You mean this gem making the social media rounds:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx0IrdC4R4[/youtube]
Or how Obama's meeting with Raul Castro was criticized to holy hell by conservative circles?
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JohnStOnge wrote:It's just the truth c. It's a well established matter of record. For decades North Korean dictators have wanted to deal one on one with US leaders. The US policy over many years was not to do it. Meeting with a North Korean dictator is NOT something that has ever been hard to do. It's giving something the North Koreans have wanted that the US has denied them in the past.css75 wrote:
Just can’t let the hate go can you JSO? The Donald must occupy a very large space in your cranium.
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Do you disagree with that? Do you disagree with the assertion that North Korean dictators have wanted this and past US Presidents have not been willing to give it to them?
Now, you can argue that maybe past US Presidents should have gone ahead and given it to them. But Obama or any US President could've met with a North Korean dictator any time they wanted to. Trump meeting with and shaking hands with the North Korean dictator is not something Obama or Bush II, or Clinton, or Bush I or so on couldn't have done if they'd wanted to do that.
Don’t disagree, but Trump was the only one who did it. It may or may not yield huge results, but you have to give him props for doing what all the other ones did not do
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Propaganda goldmine.
And, all they had to do was pinky promise on denuclearization - as they've done before.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/asia/nor ... index.html
And, all they had to do was pinky promise on denuclearization - as they've done before.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/asia/nor ... index.html
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It's funny to see the so=called patriotic Americans fellating Trump over this resounding defeat.
He fucked over our allies, gave up leverage, and got nothing for the US in return.
He praises brutal dictators, and makes fun of allies.
Trump is acting against American interests. The Cult45 morons are just too fucking stupid to understand.
He fucked over our allies, gave up leverage, and got nothing for the US in return.
He praises brutal dictators, and makes fun of allies.
Trump is acting against American interests. The Cult45 morons are just too fucking stupid to understand.
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It is also so pathetic seeing the rank hypocrisy from the anti-American rightwing - praising Trump for doing things they would have impeached Obama for.
Trump saluting North Korean generals? Hey, that's great.
Trump saluting North Korean generals? Hey, that's great.
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css75 wrote:Seems like a major case of Trump derangement Syndrome. Better get a therapy dog.∞∞∞ wrote: FWIW, I've always disagreed about Obama's Peace Prize; he did nothing to earn it.
And no, Trump isn't accomplishing anything but retreating the US' place in the World. He's threatened and implemented tariffs against long-standing allies, sucked Putin's dick time and time again, put us in a burgeoning trade war with China, weakened America's word by taking back the Iran deal, stirred up hateful rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, and our military forces are now killing civilians in the Middle East at an unprecedented pace. So while I want America to succeed with these specific peace talks, I'm not going to pretend Trump is genuinely interested in peace.
Ultimately people like Trump always, without fail, end up on the wrong side of history.
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css75 wrote:Seems like a major case of Trump derangement Syndrome. Better get a therapy dog.∞∞∞ wrote: FWIW, I've always disagreed about Obama's Peace Prize; he did nothing to earn it.
And no, Trump isn't accomplishing anything but retreating the US' place in the World. He's threatened and implemented tariffs against long-standing allies, sucked Putin's dick time and time again, put us in a burgeoning trade war with China, weakened America's word by taking back the Iran deal, stirred up hateful rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, and our military forces are now killing civilians in the Middle East at an unprecedented pace. So while I want America to succeed with these specific peace talks, I'm not going to pretend Trump is genuinely interested in peace.
Ultimately people like Trump always, without fail, end up on the wrong side of history.
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Trump would join in. The right would say what an honor it is for the woman to be raped by Trump.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If Trip saw Trump stopping a gang rape he would be pissed that a man didn't let a woman do what she wants with her body.
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That's rich, you calling anyone a political cultist.dbackjon wrote:The Cult45'ers are that fucked up.
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89Hen wrote:That's rich, you calling anyone a political cultist.dbackjon wrote:The Cult45'ers are that fucked up.
I am far less of a Cultist than the anti-constitutional Cult45ers