Re: Trump Deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:41 am
Early stages of Trump making China his bitch
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This sounds exactly like something you just repeated after you heard it on MSNBC.∞∞∞ wrote:It's no secret that flattering Trump will get him to bend for you. That's why Trump is a dangerous President, both domestically and internationally. His policies often are based on how people treat him instead of actual historical, economic, social, or human right contexts...kinda like a dictator.CitadelGrad wrote:
That's kind of strange, considering the ROK president and foreign minister have both publicly credited Trump for bringing Rocket Man to the negotiating table.
America is Trump's bitch. Trump is everyone else's.
So let's not pretend it was Trump who saw the advantage of bringing Kim-Jong Un to the table; it was South Korea's new leadership which saw the advantage of bringing Trump to the table. But credit where credit it due, at least Trump went along on the ride (although it doesn't seem like the summit brought about anything tangible, but you gotta start somewhere).
I don't have cable or even an antenna, but try again.CitadelGrad wrote:This sounds exactly like something you just repeated after you heard it on MSNBC.∞∞∞ wrote: It's no secret that flattering Trump will get him to bend for you. That's why Trump is a dangerous President, both domestically and internationally. His policies often are based on how people treat him instead of actual historical, economic, social, or human right contexts...kinda like a dictator.
America is Trump's bitch. Trump is everyone else's.
So let's not pretend it was Trump who saw the advantage of bringing Kim-Jong Un to the table; it was South Korea's new leadership which saw the advantage of bringing Trump to the table. But credit where credit it due, at least Trump went along on the ride (although it doesn't seem like the summit brought about anything tangible, but you gotta start somewhere).
∞∞∞ wrote:I don't have cable or even an antenna, but try again.
So C-SPAN is just beamed into your head?∞∞∞ wrote:My primary sources of information are C-SPAN and NPR.
Yeah, I'm sure China will be very sad that we'll be ceasing joint military exercises in their backyard with South Korea.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Early stages of Trump making China his bitch
89Hen wrote:∞∞∞ wrote:I don't have cable or even an antenna, but try again.So C-SPAN is just beamed into your head?∞∞∞ wrote:My primary sources of information are C-SPAN and NPR.
Actually, I don't. If you can get C-SPAN, why can't you get MSNBC?∞∞∞ wrote:89Hen wrote:
So C-SPAN is just beamed into your head?
TV Antenna. You know what I meant.
Skjellyfetti wrote:C-SPAN streams for free on a fancy contraption called "The Internet"
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-liveSkjellyfetti wrote:C-SPAN streams for free on a fancy contraption called "The Internet"
How am I supposed to log-in to the live stream without a cable subscription?89Hen wrote:http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-liveSkjellyfetti wrote:C-SPAN streams for free on a fancy contraption called "The Internet"
Sorry. didn't read your third sentence.CID1990 wrote:Well that kinda was what I was referring toAZGrizFan wrote:
Are you forgetting how low the bar has been set with Obama’s?
But the Nobel academy has made numerous other great picks that also helped to lessen the award
Yasser Arafat comes to mind
CID1990 wrote:You are literally a walking Salon talking points list∞∞∞ wrote: FWIW, I've always disagreed about Obama's Peace Prize; he did nothing to earn it.
And no, Trump isn't accomplishing anything but retreating the US' place in the World. He's threatened and implemented tariffs against long-standing allies, sucked Putin's dick time and time again, put us in a burgeoning trade war with China, weakened America's word by taking back the Iran deal, stirred up hateful rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, and our military forces are now killing civilians in the Middle East at an unprecedented pace. So while I want America to succeed with these specific peace talks, I'm not going to pretend Trump is genuinely interested in peace.
Ultimately people like Trump always, without fail, end up on the wrong side of history.
Yeah how could he have missed those? They're mentioned every twenty minutes on CSPANHI54UNI wrote:You forgot weakening America's word and threatening the whole planet by pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement.∞∞∞ wrote: FWIW, I've always disagreed about Obama's Peace Prize; he did nothing to earn it.
And no, Trump isn't accomplishing anything but retreating the US' place in the World. He's threatened and implemented tariffs against long-standing allies, sucked Putin's dick time and time again, put us in a burgeoning trade war with China, weakened America's word by taking back the Iran deal, stirred up hateful rhetoric against immigrants and Muslims, and our military forces are now killing civilians in the Middle East at an unprecedented pace. So while I want America to succeed with these specific peace talks, I'm not going to pretend Trump is genuinely interested in peace.
Ultimately people like Trump always, without fail, end up on the wrong side of history.
But they didn't......... I stopped reading after your first sentence.JohnStOnge wrote:Now THAT is a troll. But I'll bite.
Obviously, ANY President of the past 40 years could've done that. All Trump did was give a North Korean dictator what North Korean dictators have been trying to get for decades. Previous Presidents could've met with and shaken hands with North Korean dictators at any time because the North Korean dictators were desperately seeking that. All Trump has done at this point is give a North Korean dictator what the North Korean dictator wanted.
Yep. The reception in Yemen flat-out sucks.∞∞∞ wrote:To be fair, I was referring to radio in my earlier comment (which does require a radio antenna).
I listen to NPR and C-SPAN. I'm lucky to get in 30 minutes of "television" a day (Hulu/Netflix).
I thought this meeting was a good idea when the black guy said he'd consider it...SDHornet wrote:I'm not getting all the hate from the leftists (actually it's just TDS , so I get that) or the right wingers on this meeting. Trump gave up nothing (war games with SK are not a big deal, they are just our human shields if an actual war with NK ever broke out) and already got some minor concessions (American prisoners, renewal of bucks for bones program, and another denuke pledge from NK ). Worst case is this whole thing just goes back to the status quo of the last 15+ years of a nuclear NK.
I guess I just kind of view this whole meeting/negotiation as having a shit ton more upside than downside. I am having a hard time deciding whether to or at pundits deriding the thought of a unified/peaceful Korea. That fucking place has literally been at war for almost 68 years, not sure why talking a way into peace is a bad thing.
You mean this gem making the social media rounds:Ibanez wrote:I thought this meeting was a good idea when the black guy said he'd consider it...
I think this is a good thing - as long as he doesn't **** it up (i'm not holding my breath).
I was fully supportive of Obama meeting with Castro. Our embargo with Cuba was stupid and served no purpose. You should know by now that i'm more centrist than R or L.∞∞∞ wrote:You mean this gem making the social media rounds:Ibanez wrote:I thought this meeting was a good idea when the black guy said he'd consider it...
I think this is a good thing - as long as he doesn't **** it up (i'm not holding my breath).
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx0IrdC4R4[/youtube]
Or how Obama's meeting with Raul Castro was criticized to holy hell by conservative circles?