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California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
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Chizzang wrote:California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
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Chizzang wrote:California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
Number 3 should be eliminated...everywhere...Not a federal responsibility...

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Col Hogan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
Number 3 should be eliminated...everywhere...Not a federal responsibility...

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Ibanez wrote:
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Sixth largest economy on the planet running a 15 billion surplus and just listen to them..... nothing conks hate worse than paying their fair share... :ohno:
If they have such a surplus, what's the logic behind taxing the people even more? :suspicious:

Seems to me that Cali has enough of the taxpayers money. $14.8B surplus in addition to $14.5B in savings is incredible. Cali should return some of that money. Or make some serious investments in the state that would benefit everyone. :coffee:

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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Sixth largest economy on the planet running a 15 billion surplus and just listen to them..... nothing conks hate worse than paying their fair share... :ohno:
If they have such a surplus, what's the logic behind taxing the people even more? :suspicious:

Seems to me that Cali has enough of the taxpayers money. $14.8B surplus in addition to $14.5B in savings is incredible. Cali should return some of that money. Or make some serious investments in the state that would benefit everyone. :coffee:
But but socialism!!!

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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: If they have such a surplus, what's the logic behind taxing the people even more? :suspicious:

Seems to me that Cali has enough of the taxpayers money. $14.8B surplus in addition to $14.5B in savings is incredible. Cali should return some of that money. Or make some serious investments in the state that would benefit everyone. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: But but socialism!!!
Dirty, evil socialism!
Just look what it leads to!!!

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Chizzang wrote: 3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
That shouldn’t be an issue or an excuse for CA since they have a gazillion dollar budget surplus.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote: 3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
That shouldn’t be an issue or an excuse for CA since they have a gazillion dollar budget surplus.
It is an issue because 80% of California's population doesn't care about the homeless problem
and the other 20% are damn near homeless already based on income vs. cost of living

Homeless funding on the ballot doesn't usually pass in CA
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Dirty, evil socialism!
Just look what it leads to!!!

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andy7171 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Just look what it leads to!!!

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andy7171 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Just look what it leads to!!!

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Baltimore has a very pretty waterfront too.


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andy7171 wrote: Baltimore has a very pretty waterfront too.


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Col Hogan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
Number 3 should be eliminated...everywhere...Not a federal responsibility...

:coffee:

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I was flying from NYC to DC tonight - something I've done a million times before and never cared about- but at some point the airplane was angled so you could see both Philadelphia ahead and New York City if you looked back. And it really hit me that the parade of lights connecting both cities - as well as the enormity of lights throughout the entire flight - is a reflection of mostly-progressive policies over decades and centuries (for their periods). From the mind-boggling infrastructure, the upward opportunities created, and the economic hegemony achieved, past and present people (citizens and non-citizens) of the Northeast megalopolis simply look forward and continually improve upon their slice of the world.

Same with California.

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∞∞∞ wrote:I was flying from NYC to DC tonight - something I've done a million times before and never cared about- but at some point the airplane was angled so you could see both Philadelphia ahead and New York City if you looked back. And it really hit me that the parade of lights connecting both cities - as well as the enormity of lights throughout the entire flight - is a reflection of mostly-progressive policies over decades and centuries (for their periods). From the mind-boggling infrastructure, the upward opportunities created, and the economic hegemony achieved, past and present people (citizens and non-citizens) of the Northeast megalopolis simply look forward and continually improve upon their slice of the world.

Same with California.
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dbackjon wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Number 3 should be eliminated...everywhere...Not a federal responsibility...

:coffee:

Very Christian of you.
Is this a Christian country?
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Col Hogan wrote:
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Very Christian of you.
Is this a Christian country?

It used to be, but we are in the beginning of a post-Christian phase. God help us.


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css75 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Is this a Christian country?

It used to be, but we are in the beginning of a post-Christian phase. God help us.
Or the Christian God isn't the true one and whatever's up there is angry that America sought guidance of a false idol in Christ. But if the all knowing Christian God is running the show, he's gotta have a reason that America's turning less Christian...amirite?

Just gotta trust in the grand plan. Either that or your religion is the wrong one. :coffee:

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∞∞∞ wrote:I was flying from NYC to DC tonight - something I've done a million times before and never cared about- but at some point the airplane was angled so you could see both Philadelphia ahead and New York City if you looked back. And it really hit me that the parade of lights connecting both cities - as well as the enormity of lights throughout the entire flight - is a reflection of mostly-progressive policies over decades and centuries (for their periods). From the mind-boggling infrastructure, the upward opportunities created, and the economic hegemony achieved, past and present people (citizens and non-citizens) of the Northeast megalopolis simply look forward and continually improve upon their slice of the world.

Same with California.
Then why are so many moving away?

Same with California?

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Chizzang wrote:California is it's own worst enemy...
But homelessness is mostly a West Coast problem

http://theconversation.com/why-there-ar ... oast-96767

for the TL/DR crowd

1) West Coast Housing costs continue to rise even during the recession 10 years ago
2) Low wage earners income has not kept up with cost of living increases
3) Federal Funding for low income housing has been slashed
4) Top income earners wages have doubled in the past 20 years / compounding housing issues
5) There is no solution
And don't forget, the weather is nice.

Not speaking to the homeless issue but I was at a Chamber of Commerce breakfast yesterday and the topic was residential development for our very quickly growing area of Spokane County. The Growth Management Act, zoning, and monopolistic control of water resources in our area by certain local governments have driven down the availability of land which of course drives up the cost. They're building $300,000-$400,000 homes like mad but there will soon be a severe shortage of affordable housing due to land prices and the restrictions placed on building multi-family units. It's great that Amazon is bringing in 3,000 jobs but $15/hour ain't gonna pay for those homes.

It was very interesting and on the one hand pushes kalm toward the conk side a little because of the unintended consequences of over-regulation. On the other.....

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Ibanez wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Sixth largest economy on the planet running a 15 billion surplus and just listen to them..... nothing conks hate worse than paying their fair share... :ohno:
If they have such a surplus, what's the logic behind taxing the people even more? :suspicious:

Seems to me that Cali has enough of the taxpayers money. $14.8B surplus in addition to $14.5B in savings is incredible. Cali should return some of that money. Or make some serious investments in the state that would benefit everyone. :coffee:
Yes, invest in infrastructure. But put a hold on raising taxes for now and leave the rest for a rainy day fund when the cocksuckers crash the market and send us into another recession.
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css75 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Is this a Christian country?

It used to be, but we are in the beginning of a post-Christian phase. God help us.


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∞∞∞ wrote:I was flying from NYC to DC tonight - something I've done a million times before and never cared about- but at some point the airplane was angled so you could see both Philadelphia ahead and New York City if you looked back. And it really hit me that the parade of lights connecting both cities - as well as the enormity of lights throughout the entire flight - is a reflection of mostly-progressive policies over decades and centuries (for their periods). From the mind-boggling infrastructure, the upward opportunities created, and the economic hegemony achieved, past and present people (citizens and non-citizens) of the Northeast megalopolis simply look forward and continually improve upon their slice of the world.

Same with California.
There’s nothing wrong with progress and moving forward and Republicans are in favor of advancing the culture- they have a different idea than you that isn’t based on purely radical social ideals, that’s what you don’t get.


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