For.....?houndawg wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
She makes most of congress look like Mensa members.
So you don't think she's a "slam dunk"..........?
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No I didn't. I was responding to the headline. She's not the "Progressive Trump." The author drew certain similarities. But the woman is nothing like Trump. For one thing, she's genuinely liberal. Trump is not genuinely conservative. Trump just does what he thinks he needs to do to get what he wants at the time.CID1990 wrote:You completely missed the thrust of the articleJohnStOnge wrote:
I think she's kind of ignorant. I mean, everybody's ignorant but she seems particularly so. I think she's kind of a babe in the woods.
But I don't think she's like Trump. I think Trump is a psychopath. I'm not kidding either. I look at stuff like the discussion at https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ychopath-0 and think, "THAT'S Trump."
I think this liberal babe is an idealist. Trump is NOT an idealist.
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Responding to the headline.JohnStOnge wrote:No I didn't. I was responding to the headline. She's not the "Progressive Trump." The author drew certain similarities. But the woman is nothing like Trump. For one thing, she's genuinely liberal. Trump is not genuinely conservative. Trump just does what he thinks he needs to do to get what he wants at the time.CID1990 wrote:
You completely missed the thrust of the article
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Check.
You missed the point. The main difference between her and Trump is that she isn’t a sleazy rich real estate developer.
But she precisely emulates Trump in being low information, easily led by questionable media sources, lack of understanding or experience in government and civics, responding to critics with petty Twitter replies, etc etc
You’ll be fully defending her within a couple weeks and frankly that’s delicious
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As I said the author drew parallels. One can find parallels between any two people. But the idea that she is like Trump from the standpoint of the "progressive" movement as Trump is from the standpoint of the "conservative" movement is absurd.CID1990 wrote:Responding to the headline.JohnStOnge wrote:
No I didn't. I was responding to the headline. She's not the "Progressive Trump." The author drew certain similarities. But the woman is nothing like Trump. For one thing, she's genuinely liberal. Trump is not genuinely conservative. Trump just does what he thinks he needs to do to get what he wants at the time.
Check.
You missed the point. The main difference between her and Trump is that she isn’t a sleazy rich real estate developer.
But she precisely emulates Trump in being low information, easily led by questionable media sources, lack of understanding or experience in government and civics, responding to critics with petty Twitter replies, etc etc
You’ll be fully defending her within a couple weeks and frankly that’s delicious
If you want to say they're both really ignorant I agree with that. But she's not like Trump.
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Of course she’s not like TrumpJohnStOnge wrote:As I said the author drew parallels. One can find parallels between any two people. But the idea that she is like Trump from the standpoint of the "progressive" movement as Trump is from the standpoint of the "conservative" movement is absurd.CID1990 wrote:
Responding to the headline.
Check.
You missed the point. The main difference between her and Trump is that she isn’t a sleazy rich real estate developer.
But she precisely emulates Trump in being low information, easily led by questionable media sources, lack of understanding or experience in government and civics, responding to critics with petty Twitter replies, etc etc
You’ll be fully defending her within a couple weeks and frankly that’s delicious
If you want to say they're both really ignorant I agree with that. But she's not like Trump.
She’s the progressive Trump
And she’ll be a superstar for the left
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I think she's a a meanie...for hurting lots of feelings.CID1990 wrote:Of course she’s not like TrumpJohnStOnge wrote:
As I said the author drew parallels. One can find parallels between any two people. But the idea that she is like Trump from the standpoint of the "progressive" movement as Trump is from the standpoint of the "conservative" movement is absurd.
If you want to say they're both really ignorant I agree with that. But she's not like Trump.
She’s the progressive Trump
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I think we’ve taken this “special olympics” thing too far, electing a borderline retard to congress.kalm wrote:I think she's a a meanie...for hurting lots of feelings.CID1990 wrote:
Of course she’s not like Trump
She’s the progressive Trump
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Ocasio-Cortez actually BELIEVES what she says. Trump does not. She is an idealist. She has a real attachment to some kind of general philosophical orientation. Trump does not. Trump is just a complete con artist who says what he thinks he needs to say at the time, true or not (and almost always not), to get what he wants. She's not like that.
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No, she’s just flat fucking retarded.JohnStOnge wrote:Ocasio-Cortez actually BELIEVES what she says. Trump does not. She is an idealist. She has a real attachment to some kind of general philosophical orientation. Trump does not. Trump is just a complete con artist who says what he thinks he needs to say at the time, true or not (and almost always not), to get what he wants. She's not like that.
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Again, missing the pointJohnStOnge wrote:Ocasio-Cortez actually BELIEVES what she says. Trump does not. She is an idealist. She has a real attachment to some kind of general philosophical orientation. Trump does not. Trump is just a complete con artist who says what he thinks he needs to say at the time, true or not (and almost always not), to get what he wants. She's not like that.
It isnt a direct comparison between Trump and Ocasio-Kotex
It it is a comparison between those who support them - why they appeal to people
your blind spot on Trump prevents you from doing a significant amount of critical thought
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Ocasio Cortez is a freshman in Congress (or will be next month). One of 434 others. No leadership position. She had 100k vote for her.
You want to paint her as a leader of the Democrats or representative of Democrats. But... she's not in a position really comparable to the President.
You want to paint her as a leader of the Democrats or representative of Democrats. But... she's not in a position really comparable to the President.
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she’s an elected official who has less understanding of our form of government than the guy who thought Guam was going to flip over from too many people.Skjellyfetti wrote:Ocasio Cortez is a freshman in Congress (or will be next month). One of 434 others. No leadership position. She had 100k vote for her.
You want to paint her as a leader of the Democrats or representative of Democrats. But... she's not in a position really comparable to the President.
Didn’t think donks could go stupider than that, but they’ve outdone themselves.
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The guy whose name you'd have to google.AZGrizFan wrote: the guy who thought Guam was going to flip over from too many people
But, Ocasio Cortez is about the only topic on here these days.
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She's getting just as much mileage from your favorite media sources as she is from conservativesSkjellyfetti wrote:The guy whose name you'd have to google.AZGrizFan wrote: the guy who thought Guam was going to flip over from too many people
But, Ocasio Cortez is about the only topic on here these days.
Just today Frank Bruni knifed Joe Biden in the back and put forth Ocasio as the exemplar the DNC should be looking for
You sound just like the people on the left AND right who were snickering about Trump in 2015... and now look at you - proctoring one of the biggest thread fizzles in CS history because the guy won and you can't fathom it could have happened without outside help
The realization that the left can support morons as easily as the right would be quite a revelation for you- but you'll never acknowledge it
sort of like you're doing here
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I could agree with this if people would just point out she's a member of the house and not POTUS and leave it at that.Skjellyfetti wrote:Ocasio Cortez is a freshman in Congress (or will be next month). One of 434 others. No leadership position. She had 100k vote for her.
You want to paint her as a leader of the Democrats or representative of Democrats. But... she's not in a position really comparable to the President.
But I've seen enough "future of the Democratic party" comments as well as dumb editorials and blue check mark tweets commenting on how the GOP is "afraid" of "strawng wimmin of cullah" that the comparison makes sense.
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Has she turned us into Iceland yet?Pwns wrote:I could agree with this if people would just point out she's a member of the house and not POTUS and leave it at that.Skjellyfetti wrote:Ocasio Cortez is a freshman in Congress (or will be next month). One of 434 others. No leadership position. She had 100k vote for her.
You want to paint her as a leader of the Democrats or representative of Democrats. But... she's not in a position really comparable to the President.
But I've seen enough "future of the Democratic party" comments as well as dumb editorials and blue check mark tweets commenting on how the GOP is "afraid" of "strawng wimmin of cullah" that the comparison makes sense.
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Up next: Is AOC the jewish Fauxcahontas?
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She’s a dirty rotten summovabitch I tells ya!Pwns wrote:Up next: Is AOC the jewish Fauxcahontas? Maybe we can call her Brownberg.
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You see, the great thing about the HoR, is that it's the "pulse of the people". A lot of crazy shit can and does get brought up there but rarely...RARELY makes it out of committee, not to mention through the Senate. The HoR reflects the people, as crazy as we are, and gives us the opportunity to put forth wild ass proposals but the "refined" and "measured" Senate usually squashes that crap.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
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Normally I'd say you're right and move on....but it's a bit worrysome when she has 1.5 MILLION followers who a) believe stupid shit just like her, b) believe every single thing coming out of her mouth and c) look to her as a beacon of hope and the future of the party. Their wet dream is a Beto/Ocascio-Cortez ticket.Ibanez wrote:You see, the great thing about the HoR, is that it's the "pulse of the people". A lot of crazy shit can and does get brought up there but rarely...RARELY makes it out of committee, not to mention through the Senate. The HoR reflects the people, as crazy as we are, and gives us the opportunity to put forth wild ass proposals but the "refined" and "measured" Senate usually squashes that crap.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
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That's the scary part. She really IS that stupid.JohnStOnge wrote:Ocasio-Cortez actually BELIEVES what she says. Trump does not. She is an idealist. She has a real attachment to some kind of general philosophical orientation. Trump does not. Trump is just a complete con artist who says what he thinks he needs to say at the time, true or not (and almost always not), to get what he wants. She's not like that.
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Ibanez wrote:You see, the great thing about the HoR, is that it's the "pulse of the people". A lot of crazy **** can and does get brought up there but rarely...RARELY makes it out of committee, not to mention through the Senate. The HoR reflects the people, as crazy as we are, and gives us the opportunity to put forth wild ass proposals but the "refined" and "measured" Senate usually squashes that crap.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
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This from the guy whose idea of an intelligent female is Sarah Palin......AZGrizFan wrote:That's the scary part. She really IS that stupid.JohnStOnge wrote:Ocasio-Cortez actually BELIEVES what she says. Trump does not. She is an idealist. She has a real attachment to some kind of general philosophical orientation. Trump does not. Trump is just a complete con artist who says what he thinks he needs to say at the time, true or not (and almost always not), to get what he wants. She's not like that.
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Trump has more followers that believe his bullshit. What’s your point?AZGrizFan wrote:Normally I'd say you're right and move on....but it's a bit worrysome when she has 1.5 MILLION followers who a) believe stupid shit just like her, b) believe every single thing coming out of her mouth and c) look to her as a beacon of hope and the future of the party. Their wet dream is a Beto/Ocascio-Cortez ticket.Ibanez wrote:You see, the great thing about the HoR, is that it's the "pulse of the people". A lot of crazy shit can and does get brought up there but rarely...RARELY makes it out of committee, not to mention through the Senate. The HoR reflects the people, as crazy as we are, and gives us the opportunity to put forth wild ass proposals but the "refined" and "measured" Senate usually squashes that crap.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
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Women of color or colored women? What’s the difference??houndawg wrote:Ibanez wrote:You see, the great thing about the HoR, is that it's the "pulse of the people". A lot of crazy **** can and does get brought up there but rarely...RARELY makes it out of committee, not to mention through the Senate. The HoR reflects the people, as crazy as we are, and gives us the opportunity to put forth wild ass proposals but the "refined" and "measured" Senate usually squashes that crap.
The point of that is to say, while AOC is delicious fodder for criticism, she's 1 person with wild ass ideas who will likely amount to nothing in the end and will have a legislative record of dull successes that don't really inspire anyone or change the nation.
....women, of color no less, wanting a seat on the gravy train. Ain't that awful?
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