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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby CID1990 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:21 pm

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CID1990 wrote:I think the DNC should run this gal for President



:lol:

Careful there
The more ridiculous and obnoxious the character the more likely to stir the fringe into action
If Trump showed us anything he showed us that "credible and informed" are meaningless now

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I'm not saying it because I think people wont vote for her ...


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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:50 pm

Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I think the DNC should run this gal for President



:lol:

Careful there
The more ridiculous and obnoxious the character the more likely to stir the fringe into action
If Trump showed us anything he showed us that "credible and informed" are meaningless now

:coffee:


She makes Trump look like Einstein. :nod:
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby Chizzang » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:13 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:lol:

Careful there
The more ridiculous and obnoxious the character the more likely to stir the fringe into action
If Trump showed us anything he showed us that "credible and informed" are meaningless now

:coffee:


She makes Trump look like Einstein. :nod:


Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute

Imagine if she finds a way to "one up him"
in the game of who can spew the most disruptive inaccurate persuasive nonsense
to suit her agenda...

:nod:
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby SDHornet » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:38 pm

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
She makes Trump look like Einstein. :nod:


Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute


Imagine if she finds a way to "one up him"
in the game of who can spew the most disruptive inaccurate persuasive nonsense
to suit her agenda...

:nod:

She would probably say "like" every other word..."you know, if you, like, want to have success, like, just have everyone, like, get a free college education, so like, people can have an income, and like, support their family..."

Listening to her reminds me of this dumb hottie:

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:19 am

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
She makes Trump look like Einstein. :nod:


Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute



:nod:


The vast majority of Americans eat that shit with a spoon. You may be right. :nod:
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby Chizzang » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:27 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute



:nod:


The vast majority of Americans eat that shit with a spoon. You may be right. :nod:



The goal would NOT be to communicate with vast majority of Americans
it would be to motivate the lunatic fringe

Every lie Trump says gets substantiated as fact by a small powerful team that do his bidding
a solid majority of Americans know these are lies - but about 10% think they are absolutely true

That 10% can swing an election
when supported by 40% that hold their nose and pull the lever

The results are in
You just need to add the fringe to your core with a two party system

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:55 am

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
The vast majority of Americans eat that shit with a spoon. You may be right. :nod:



The goal would NOT be to communicate with vast majority of Americans
it would be to motivate the lunatic fringe

Every lie Trump says gets substantiated as fact by a small powerful team that do his bidding
a solid majority of Americans know these are lies - but about 10% think they are absolutely true

That 10% can swing an election
when supported by 40% that hold their nose and pull the lever

The results are in
You just need to add the fringe to your core with a two party system

:nod:


Yep. That's why people lose elections that say things like "binders full of women" or "basket full of deplorables." You alienate groups of individuals who may otherwise not bother to go to the polls...adding their votes to the 40% who hold their nose and vote.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby Pwns » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:39 pm

Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
She makes Trump look like Einstein. :nod:


Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute

Imagine if she finds a way to "one up him"
in the game of who can spew the most disruptive inaccurate persuasive nonsense
to suit her agenda...

:nod:


It might be harder for an ignoramus to win over the votes of your suburban white liberal people...at least if said ignoramus candidate is a white male.

Otherwise they'll for damn sure overlook any number of flaws a candidate has because it's "important" to have a woman president or a "president of color". The left's Donald Trump is likely to be a non-white female like Maxine "Impeesh fotey fie!" Waters.
We get the government we deserve. :nod:

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby Chizzang » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:02 pm

Pwns wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute

Imagine if she finds a way to "one up him"
in the game of who can spew the most disruptive inaccurate persuasive nonsense
to suit her agenda...

:nod:


It might be harder for an ignoramus to win over the votes of your suburban white liberal people...at least if said ignoramus candidate is a white male.

Otherwise they'll for damn sure overlook any number of flaws a candidate has because it's "important" to have a woman president or a "president of color". The left's Donald Trump is likely to be a non-white female like Maxine "Impeesh fotey fie!" Waters.


True,
in the same way Trump was able to get the White Male Pseudo Nazi wanna be to go vote
Something a woman or black man could never do

Yup, agreed
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:01 pm

Chizzang wrote:
Pwns wrote:
It might be harder for an ignoramus to win over the votes of your suburban white liberal people...at least if said ignoramus candidate is a white male.

Otherwise they'll for damn sure overlook any number of flaws a candidate has because it's "important" to have a woman president or a "president of color". The left's Donald Trump is likely to be a non-white female like Maxine "Impeesh fotey fie!" Waters.


True,
in the same way Trump was able to get the White Male Pseudo Nazi wanna be to go vote


All 30 of ‘em?
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby kalm » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:37 pm

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Chizzang wrote:
True,
in the same way Trump was able to get the White Male Pseudo Nazi wanna be to go vote


All 30 of ‘em?


Bout the same amount of true socialists.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:59 pm

kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
All 30 of ‘em?


Bout the same amount of true socialists.


57% of Democrats surveyed said socialism wasn’t a bad thing.
47% of Democrats surveyed said capitalism was a bad thing.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby kalm » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:05 pm

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kalm wrote:
Bout the same amount of true socialists.


57% of Democrats surveyed said socialism wasn’t a bad thing.
47% of Democrats surveyed said capitalism was a bad thing.


Define socialism. Define capitalism.

.01% of Republicans want to pay for privatized fire departments. :coffee:

Link?
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby AZGrizFan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:42 pm

kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
57% of Democrats surveyed said socialism wasn’t a bad thing.
47% of Democrats surveyed said capitalism was a bad thing.


Define socialism. Define capitalism.

.01% of Republicans want to pay for privatized fire departments. :coffee:

Link?


Meh. Can’t find the link...read it earlier today. As trip said, “socialism isn’t a dirty word to his generation”....that’s validation enough that the uniformed have no idea what they mean by socialism. Ask Venezuelans how they feel about it right about now...
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby CID1990 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:18 pm

kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
57% of Democrats surveyed said socialism wasn’t a bad thing.
47% of Democrats surveyed said capitalism was a bad thing.


Define socialism. Define capitalism.

.01% of Republicans want to pay for privatized fire departments. :coffee:

Link?


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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:14 am

AZGrizFan wrote:Meh. Can’t find the link...read it earlier today. As trip said, “socialism isn’t a dirty word to his generation”....that’s validation enough that the uniformed have no idea what they mean by socialism. Ask Venezuelans how they feel about it right about now...

Wanting universal healthcare, better pay, and free education does not mean we're going to be Venezuela. Venezuela is a single-market economy with an extremely corrupt political system.

This is a diversified, productive nation that can afford social programs if it got its priorities in order.

No one wants to capitalism gone - we want a capitalist market and social programs to co-exist. It's essentially ironing out market failures to benefit society.

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Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:46 am

∞∞∞ wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Meh. Can’t find the link...read it earlier today. As trip said, “socialism isn’t a dirty word to his generation”....that’s validation enough that the uniformed have no idea what they mean by socialism. Ask Venezuelans how they feel about it right about now...

Wanting universal healthcare, better pay, and free education does not mean we're going to be Venezuela. Venezuela is a single-market economy with an extremely corrupt political system.

This is a diversified, productive nation that can afford social programs if it got its priorities in order.

No one wants to capitalism gone - we want a capitalist market and social programs to co-exist. It's essentially ironing out market failures to benefit society.


Championing social programs sounds a lot better than having a socialist government without a capitalist market.
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Postby andy7171 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:57 am

SDHornet wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Trump has set the "new low" as far as uninformed unintelligent representation
If she can find a way to go lower you might be surprised how effective that can be

Imagine if she just bullsh!ts off the top of her head complete fabrications that suit her narrative
Like our President does... ponder that for a minute


Imagine if she finds a way to "one up him"
in the game of who can spew the most disruptive inaccurate persuasive nonsense
to suit her agenda...

:nod:

She would probably say "like" every other word..."you know, if you, like, want to have success, like, just have everyone, like, get a free college education, so like, people can have an income, and like, support their family..."

Listening to her reminds me of this dumb hottie:

:lol: :dunce:

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Postby Ibanez » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:58 am

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Define socialism. Define capitalism.

.01% of Republicans want to pay for privatized fire departments. :coffee:

Link?


Meh. Can’t find the link...read it earlier today. As trip said, “socialism isn’t a dirty word to his generation”....that’s validation enough that the uniformed have no idea what they mean by socialism. Ask Venezuelans how they feel about it right about now...

Let's keep in mind:
1) that a few don't speak for a the whole of a generation; and
b) these are the same fascists that are part of a party and a group (Antifa) that uses fascist tactics and rhetoric to combat what they perceive as fascism. It's quite mind boggling, if you ask me.
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Postby kalm » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:58 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Wanting universal healthcare, better pay, and free education does not mean we're going to be Venezuela. Venezuela is a single-market economy with an extremely corrupt political system.

This is a diversified, productive nation that can afford social programs if it got its priorities in order.

No one wants to capitalism gone - we want a capitalist market and social programs to co-exist. It's essentially ironing out market failures to benefit society.


Championing social programs sounds a lot better than having a socialist government without a capitalist market.


Gil, that's exactly what Trip is saying. Why is it so hard to accept that we have a mixed market economy? Pretty much every advanced nation does. As Trip points out, it's just a matter of how you prioritize social spending.
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Postby Gil Dobie » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:08 am

kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Championing social programs sounds a lot better than having a socialist government without a capitalist market.


Gil, that's exactly what Trip is saying. Why is it so hard to accept that we have a mixed market economy? Pretty much every advanced nation does. As Trip points out, it's just a matter of how you prioritize social spending.


Duh, I am agreeing with Trip's statement. Why is that so hard to hard to accept. :lol:
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Postby kalm » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:10 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote:
Gil, that's exactly what Trip is saying. Why is it so hard to accept that we have a mixed market economy? Pretty much every advanced nation does. As Trip points out, it's just a matter of how you prioritize social spending.


Duh, I am agreeing with Trip's statement. Why is that so hard to hard to accept. :lol:


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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Upper-Middle Class Doesn't Exist Anymore in America

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:20 am

I was at a political forum a few weeks ago and two Europeans (I think German and Cypriot) made comments about how the Democrats would be considered center-right where they're from, and the Sanders' platform would be considered moderate at best. You can gather what they thought of the GOP...

They were stunned how conservative the entire US population was...even those claiming to be liberals (according to our definition). Perspective is a funny thing.

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Postby Ibanez » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:28 am

∞∞∞ wrote:I was at a political forum a few weeks ago and two Europeans (I think German and Cypriot) made comments about how the Democrats would be considered center-right where they're from, and the Sanders' platform would be considered moderate at best. You can gather what they thought of the GOP...

They were stunned how conservative the entire US population was...even those claiming to be liberals (according to our definition). Perspective is a funny thing.

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