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Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:24 am
by CAA Flagship
This thread is dedicated to the latest findings in research that dispels the previous findings. Some of which has political effects.
No amount of alcohol is safe, health experts warn
Alcohol consumption at all levels can have damaging health implications, according to a report in The Lancet.
The research, which claims to be the most comprehensive of its kind, pours cold water on previous reports that said drinking in moderation could have health benefits.
The report's researchers have called for global medical guidance to be revised.
So much for a glass of wine a day for your health's sake — all alcohol consumption is bad for you, according to a damning report.
The global study, which claims to be the most comprehensive of its kind, pours cold water on previous reports that espouse the protective effects of alcohol under some conditions.
While researchers acknowledged that moderate drinking can protect against heart disease and diabetes, they said that the risks of cancer and other illnesses outweigh those benefits and have called for a change in medical guidance........
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/health- ... study.html
Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:38 am
by CID1990
CAA Flagship wrote:This thread is dedicated to the latest findings in research that dispels the previous findings. Some of which has political effects.
No amount of alcohol is safe, health experts warn
Alcohol consumption at all levels can have damaging health implications, according to a report in The Lancet.
The research, which claims to be the most comprehensive of its kind, pours cold water on previous reports that said drinking in moderation could have health benefits.
The report's researchers have called for global medical guidance to be revised.
So much for a glass of wine a day for your health's sake — all alcohol consumption is bad for you, according to a damning report.
The global study, which claims to be the most comprehensive of its kind, pours cold water on previous reports that espouse the protective effects of alcohol under some conditions.
While researchers acknowledged that moderate drinking can protect against heart disease and diabetes, they said that the risks of cancer and other illnesses outweigh those benefits and have called for a change in medical guidance........
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/health- ... study.html
damn
yet more evidence science is flawed
therefore, Jesus
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Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:58 am
by 89Hen
CID1990 wrote:
damn
yet more evidence science is flawed
therefore, Jesus
Does give you pause on things like man made global warming.

Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:31 am
by Pwns
The greatest proportion of alcohol-related deaths among young people were tuberculosis, road injuries and self-harm, the report found. Meanwhile, for those aged over-50, the biggest killer was cancer, particularly among women.
Wait a minute, so they counted mortality from suicide and drunk driving in the drinking group?
Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:30 am
by CAA Flagship
Pwns wrote:The greatest proportion of alcohol-related deaths among young people were tuberculosis, road injuries and self-harm, the report found. Meanwhile, for those aged over-50, the biggest killer was cancer, particularly among women.
Wait a minute, so they counted mortality from suicide and drunk driving in the drinking group?

Don't get in the way of SCIENCE.

Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:08 am
by Gil Dobie
Science is never perfect unless you are using it to make a political argument to make money, like algore.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:30 am
by andy7171
I've been struggling to accept this for 5 years now.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:30 am
by Chizzang
Re: Science Change
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:29 pm
by JohnStOnge
It's an observational study. Science gets a bad name because of those. I've posted a discussion of this issue from a statistics text before. It contrasts "observational study" to "scientific study." Observational study isn't even really science because it does not involve controlled experimentation. It has its place and it is often necessary. But it's not even really science as a process.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:17 am
by CAA Flagship
Aspirin disappoints for avoiding first heart attack, stroke
Taking a low-dose aspirin every day has long been known to cut the chances of another heart attack, stroke or other heart problem in people who already have had one, but the risks don't outweigh the benefits for most other folks, major new research finds.
Although it's been used for more than a century, aspirin's value in many situations is still unclear. The latest studies are some of the largest and longest to test this pennies-a-day blood thinner in people who don't yet have heart disease or a blood vessel-related problem.
One found that aspirin did not help prevent first strokes or heart attacks in people at moderate risk for one because they had several health threats such as smoking, high blood pressure or high cholesterol.
Another tested aspirin in people with diabetes, who are more likely to develop or die from heart problems, and found that the modest benefit it gave was offset by a greater risk of serious bleeding.
Aspirin did not help prevent cancer as had been hoped.
And fish oil supplements, also tested in the study of people with diabetes, failed to help.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-57412350
Re: Science Change
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:54 am
by Chizzang
CAA Flagship wrote:Aspirin disappoints for avoiding first heart attack, stroke
Taking a low-dose aspirin every day has long been known to cut the chances of another heart attack, stroke or other heart problem in people who already have had one, but the risks don't outweigh the benefits for most other folks, major new research finds.
Although it's been used for more than a century, aspirin's value in many situations is still unclear. The latest studies are some of the largest and longest to test this pennies-a-day blood thinner in people who don't yet have heart disease or a blood vessel-related problem.
One found that aspirin did not help prevent first strokes or heart attacks in people at moderate risk for one because they had several health threats such as smoking, high blood pressure or high cholesterol.
Another tested aspirin in people with diabetes, who are more likely to develop or die from heart problems, and found that the modest benefit it gave was offset by a greater risk of serious bleeding.
Aspirin did not help prevent cancer as had been hoped.
And fish oil supplements, also tested in the study of people with diabetes, failed to help.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... e-57412350
I'll sum this study up for you...
If you're a smoker and a drinker an aspirin a day isn't going to help you - good luck
However:
If you are healthy an aspirin works as a low dose blood thinner
Furthermore: If you're fat
and you take high blood pressure medication and prescription blood thinners - aspirin is redundant
In summary
Aspirin is not a miracle drug
it's a pain reliever that has a mild blood thinning side effect good for healthy adults over 50

Re: Science Change
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:23 am
by Pwns
Brown University professor conducts a study suggesting gender dysphoria can spread among kids that have contact with each other.
https://news.brown.edu/articles/2018/08/gender
https://www.dailywire.com/news/35119/br ... en-shapiro
BTW, there was a longitudinal
study done on gender-dysphoric kids that showed almost 90% of them get over it by adulthood.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:48 am
by Ibanez
You know sometimes kids get confused. My 4 yr old will say she's "cold" when really she's "hot". She'll call everyone a boy or he.
They are children..prone to mistakes and not understanding the world around them. It's up to the parents to get their heads out of their assess and say, " No..that's a boy and that's a girl, " not, "Well...that little boy didn't get to choose his sex. You see, his genetics...the codes in his body which makes him a him, said he's a boy but really, in his mind, he's a girl b/c like he's sparkley things and wearing heels."
I don't have any facts to back it up...but i'm willing to bet genetic variants cause people to be gay or transgender...i.e. it's not a choice. It's their DNA.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:56 am
by Pwns
Ibanez wrote:
You know sometimes kids get confused. My 4 yr old will say she's "cold" when really she's "hot". She'll call everyone a boy or he.
They are children..prone to mistakes and not understanding the world around them. It's up to the parents to get their heads out of their assess and say, " No..that's a boy and that's a girl, " not, "Well...that little boy didn't get to choose his sex. You see, his genetics...the codes in his body which makes him a him, said he's a boy but really, in his mind, he's a girl b/c like he's sparkley things and wearing heels."
I don't have any facts to back it up...but i'm willing to bet genetic variants cause people to be gay or transgender...i.e. it's not a choice. It's their DNA.
Which is exactly why sex changes for minors should be illegal.
Re: Science Change
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:10 am
by GannonFan
Pwns wrote:Ibanez wrote:
You know sometimes kids get confused. My 4 yr old will say she's "cold" when really she's "hot". She'll call everyone a boy or he.
They are children..prone to mistakes and not understanding the world around them. It's up to the parents to get their heads out of their assess and say, " No..that's a boy and that's a girl, " not, "Well...that little boy didn't get to choose his sex. You see, his genetics...the codes in his body which makes him a him, said he's a boy but really, in his mind, he's a girl b/c like he's sparkley things and wearing heels."
I don't have any facts to back it up...but i'm willing to bet genetic variants cause people to be gay or transgender...i.e. it's not a choice. It's their DNA.
Which is exactly why sex changes for minors should be illegal.
I agree with that. In the messy cases where the kid has both sets, picking a side to go with makes sense, but wait until they're an adult for something other than that.