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Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:05 am
by Chizzang
I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:07 am
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:
I'd reply with a thoughtful post, but it's not worth the effort.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:08 am
by Ibanez
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:
Zero points for not quoting your source. :ohno:

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:14 am
by kalm
There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:20 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote:There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.


We're both - a Democratic Republic. Your friend is dumb.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:26 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:There are exceptions to the BAP.

Case in point, a conservative friend just posted a meme on how we're a republic and NOT a democracy.

I replied with: "So we’re not a democracy? Huh. Sure about that?"

His response: "Positive, we are a republic" and then some mumbo jumbo about the pledge of allegiance.

My reply: That's not what I asked. China is also a republic."

Then a friend of his told me I was wrong and linked to an article comparing democracies and republics where it clearly states what a pure democracy is (which we're obviously not) and how the US is a democratic republic (I added constitutionally limited, representative... to throw them a bone.)

It took me far less time to make those FB replies than I've spent here replying to your post, Chizzy....

But that might also support your theory.


We're both - a Democratic Republic. Your friend is dumb.
That was my point but democracy hatred is a new pastime for certain conks.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:04 am
by Ivytalk
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:
And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:26 am
by Skjellyfetti
Seems related to the gish gallop.

Re: RE: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:40 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:
I disagree

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Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:57 am
by Silenoz
Exhibit A:

Anti-vaxxers, who figured this out long ago

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:01 am
by Ibanez
Skjellyfetti wrote:Seems related to the gish gallop.
Yup. And use the Chewbacca defense as the kill shot.

Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:56 pm
by SeattleGriz
Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I believe I have discovered the new standard by which we function politically

Bullshit asymmetry principle
the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[13][14]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
Brandolini's law emphasizes the difficulty of debunking bullshit.[19] In contrast, the faster propagation of bullshit is an old proverb: "a lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on".[20]

:geek:
And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.
Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:39 pm
by SeattleGriz
SeattleGriz wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And there’s plenty of empirical evidence for it right here on CS.com! Somebody other than JSO should undertake a statistical study of it. Good on ya, Chizzang.
Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.
Here here. I agree wholeheartedly.

Powerful, impactful, SeattleGriz.

Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:32 pm
by SeattleGriz
Silenoz wrote:Exhibit A:

Anti-vaxxers, who figured this out long ago
You got shit for proof.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:58 pm
by Winterborn
SeattleGriz wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Exactly. The bastardization of my wonderful Intelligent Design threads is one example.
Here here. I agree wholeheartedly.

Powerful, impactful, SeattleGriz.
Talking to yourself is never a good sign. :? :?

Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:58 am
by Silenoz
SeattleGriz wrote:
Silenoz wrote:Exhibit A:

Anti-vaxxers, who figured this out long ago
You got shit for proof.
Once again, you have it backwards my silly friend

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:08 pm
by SeattleGriz
Silenoz wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:You got shit for proof.
Once again, you have it backwards my silly friend

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Should have made it more clear I was kidding. Trying to use this thread subject as my model.

Re: Bullshit asymmetry principle

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:11 pm
by Silenoz
:oops: