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The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:27 am
by kalm
People on both sides are taking politics WAY too seriously.
Interesting read. I'd never heard of this group or McInnes but they seem to be semi-important to some on the right. At least they can be used as bodyguards.
(Psst....calling yourself "Proud Boys" and dressing like hipsters is kind of faggy)
The Proud Boys, The GOP And 'The Fascist Creep'
NEW YORK — Gavin McInnes, the founder of the violent neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys, had a perplexing message for the Republican Party last Friday. “At the very least, people of the right,” he told a crowd inside the Metropolitan Republican Club ballroom, “let us scum in.”
It was a baffling thing to say, of course, because McInnes had been invited to speak at the club, a storied and stuffy mainstream conservative institution on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.
The Metropolitan Republican Club has historically been a place for the traditional elite. Over the past century, presidents, senators, governors and mayors have walked through its doors, including club members Teddy Roosevelt, Richard Nixon and Michael Bloomberg. But on Friday night, it was a hipster nationalist militant behind the club’s podium: McInnes, a hateful and vulgar vlogger from Canada who likes to play with his butt on camera.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-g ... DkkpJRCqGY
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:30 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:I'd never heard of this group or McInnes
So a watered down version of Antifa?
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:41 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:I'd never heard of this group or McInnes
So a watered down version of Antifa?
I don't know the popularity or numbers of either. The right is really good at defining the left, marching in lockstep, and bombarding on a subject. I'm guessing antifa is not nearly as prevalent or relevant as many on the right imagine. The same is probably true for neo-nazis and the left.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:48 am
by 93henfan
kalm wrote:The same is probably true for neo-nazis and the left.
Not according to:
CNN
NBC
ABC
CBS
NPR
New Yorker
Slate
Al Jazeera
BBC
Politico
HuffPo
Every major newspaper beside WSJ and NYP
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:54 am
by kalm
93henfan wrote:kalm wrote:The same is probably true for neo-nazis and the left.
Not according to:
CNN
NBC
ABC
CBS
NPR
New Yorker
Slate
Al Jazeera
BBC
Politico
HuffPo
Every major newspaper beside WSJ and NYP
You misunderstood. I was saying coverage of neo-nazi's is overblown.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:56 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:The right is really good at defining the left, marching in lockstep, and bombarding on a subject.
They're rank amateurs compared to the left.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:17 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:The right is really good at defining the left, marching in lockstep, and bombarding on a subject.
They're rank amateurs compared to the left.
Depends on your perspective I guess. I’ve seen antifa shit everywhere for the past year....every bit as much as neo-nazi stuff. I’d guess it’s all pretty close but at least neo-nazis haven’t been invited to speak at posh conservative clubs that have hosted presidents...at least yet.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:25 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
They're rank amateurs compared to the left.
Depends on your perspective I guess. I’ve seen antifa shit everywhere for the past year....every bit as much as neo-nazi stuff. I’d guess it’s all pretty close but at least neo-nazis haven’t been invited to speak at posh conservative clubs that have hosted presidents...at least yet.
I'm not following you on this anymore.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:41 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Depends on your perspective I guess. I’ve seen antifa shit everywhere for the past year....every bit as much as neo-nazi stuff. I’d guess it’s all pretty close but at least neo-nazis haven’t been invited to speak at posh conservative clubs that have hosted presidents...at least yet.
I'm not following you on this anymore.
It might help if you read the article and notice I’m not defending antifa.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:44 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:It might help if you read the article
Better chance of me winning powerball.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:55 am
by SeattleGriz
That's where this famous video happened.
The two groups are always going at it.
Proud boys are tougher guy for guy by a good portion. They should just set up an MMA ring and go at it instead.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:50 am
by Ivytalk
I agree with SeaGriz. Let Antifa and Proud Boys duke it out publicly, and sell popcorn.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:53 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Im starting to like the Proud Boys, they dont talk much they act.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:14 am
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Im starting to like the Proud Boys, they dont talk much they act.
They aren't much to look at but you don't want to turn your back on a crowd of them.
Re: RE: Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:21 am
by SeattleGriz
houndawg wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Im starting to like the Proud Boys, they dont talk much they act.
They aren't much to look at but you don't want to turn your back on a crowd of them.
On Antifa. I know. Bunch of cheap shots.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:59 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
True they would never fight eye to eye, they hide on the internet and try to ruin lives and make white guys lose jobs.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:32 pm
by CID1990
They are all the same
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Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:53 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
They're rank amateurs compared to the left.
Depends on your perspective I guess. I’ve seen antifa shit everywhere for the past year....every bit as much as neo-nazi stuff. I’d guess it’s all pretty close but at least neo-nazis haven’t been invited to speak at posh conservative clubs that have hosted presidents...at least yet.
Are they ever calling ANTIFA out? Because I haven’t seen it...meanwhile, rank and file conservatives fillet groups like this on a regular basis.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:19 am
by CID1990
The difference between right wing terrorist groups and left wing terrorist groups is the direction in which their legitimacy moves as the years go by.
Klukkers/Nazis - less legitimate every year. They are already pretty radioactive out to 20 degrees of separation
Weathermen - terrorists in the 60s, now respected intellectuals.
ANTIFA is basically Action Directe or the Red Brigade. At some point one of them will do something heinous and wind up in prison to be a cause celebre for the next 30 years before President Ocasio-Cortez pardons them
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:16 am
by Gil Dobie
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:It might help if you read the article
Better chance of me winning powerball.
Did you win?
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:37 am
by Gil Dobie
CID1990 wrote:The difference between right wing terrorist groups and left wing terrorist groups is the direction in which their legitimacy moves as the years go by.
Klukkers/Nazis - less legitimate every year. They are already pretty radioactive out to 20 degrees of separation
Weathermen - terrorists in the 60s, now respected intellectuals.
ANTIFA is basically Action Directe or the Red Brigade. At some point one of them will do something heinous and wind up in prison to be a cause celebre for the next 30 years before President Ocasio-Cortez pardons them
Would not surprise me.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:59 am
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:The difference between right wing terrorist groups and left wing terrorist groups is the direction in which their legitimacy moves as the years go by.
Klukkers/Nazis - less legitimate every year. They are already pretty radioactive out to 20 degrees of separation
Weathermen - terrorists in the 60s, now respected intellectuals.
ANTIFA is basically Action Directe or the Red Brigade. At some point one of them will do something heinous and wind up in prison to be a cause celebre for the next 30 years before President Ocasio-Cortez pardons them
People still speak warmly of their days of kneecapping bankers.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:01 am
by houndawg
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
I'm not following you on this anymore.
It might help if you read the article and notice I’m not defending antifa.
....some of them, I assume, are fine people.
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:03 am
by houndawg
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:I'd never heard of this group or McInnes
So a watered down
version of Antifa?
watered down version of AlphaGriz..
Re: The Right's Antifa?
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:11 am
by CAA Flagship
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 927868002/
Antifa protestors chant outside Fox's Tucker Carlson's home, break door
A group of angry Antifa protestors gathered outside of Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson's home on Wednesday evening.
The anti-fascists group, possibly associated with Smash Racism D.C., chanted "Tucker Carlson, we will fight. We know where you sleep at night" outside of Carlson's Washington home, according to Fox News. In a video posted online, the group can also be heard saying, "Racist scumbag, leave town!"
Carlson's wife, Susie, was home alone at the time. He told Fox she locked herself into a pantry and called police.
The host of "Tucker Carlson Tonight" said the group broke his oak door and one person mentioned a pipe bomb, as heard on a security video.