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So are you OK with us going along with a lie?

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I'm talking about the Saudi Arabia thing. We all can see what is developing. The Saudis lied for the past few weeks about the guy being dead. Now we can see that they are about to produce some scapegoats to cover for their Crown Prince. Someone is going to take the fall in order to justify not holding him responsible. And we can see that our government is going to facilitate the process. Our government is going to help them lie.

And BTW the guy was killed because he was arguing for freedom of expression in the Arab world.

So I can see that there are indeed reasons to avoid holding Saudi Arabia accountable. But are you OK with that? You know damn well that this wasn't some rouge outfit thing. You know damn well the Saudi Arabian government was behind it.

Are you going to be fine when Trump goes along with the scam?
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No. I'm not ok with it. But then, I'm a donk.

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Tod wrote:No. I'm not ok with it. But then, I'm a donk.

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But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.


But I know, her emails.


Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
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dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.


But I know, her emails.


Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
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A US President appeasing the Saudis...unprecedented! :lol:

If we don't have a president willing to shake his finger at them then they'll really be emboldened. :coffee:
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Pwns wrote:A US President appeasing the Saudis...unprecedented! :lol:

If we don't have a president willing to shake his finger at them then they'll really be emboldened. :coffee:
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So what happens if, say, a bunch of Saudi nationals carry out a terror attack on US soil and the Saudis just shrug their shoulders and we don't have a president willing to show them who's boss by writing a strongly-worded letter of condemnation? #resist.
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The reason they told this story is they are terrified of what Trump will do to them.

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I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?

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Saudi guy gets killed by other Saudi guys he used to pal around with.

Who da thunk that would have ever happened in a midieval desert theocracy.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I'm talking about the Saudi Arabia thing. We all can see what is developing. The Saudis lied for the past few weeks about the guy being dead. Now we can see that they are about to produce some scapegoats to cover for their Crown Prince. Someone is going to take the fall in order to justify not holding him responsible. And we can see that our government is going to facilitate the process. Our government is going to help them lie.

And BTW the guy was killed because he was arguing for freedom of expression in the Arab world.

So I can see that there are indeed reasons to avoid holding Saudi Arabia accountable. But are you OK with that? You know damn well that this wasn't some rouge outfit thing. You know damn well the Saudi Arabian government was behind it.

Are you going to be fine when Trump goes along with the scam?
Not once did you suggest a course of action.
What do you want to do, John? Did you want us to do something without hearing the recording, reviewing the evidence, and before SA commented on it?
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Why did he go into that building if he had a pretty good idea that something bad would happen?
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The Saudis are killing civilians every day in Yemen. They finance radical madrassas all over the world. They were complicit in 9/11

I don't understand why all you whiners are suddenly up in arms about them killing one guy

Oh wait... I do understand

And yes klam, Trump, with his statement on the Saudis, treated us to probably one of the most honest and transparent statements ever made by a US President about our relationship with those peaceful Bedouin degenerates


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dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.


But I know, her emails.


Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
You can back that up with proof, right?
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SeattleGriz wrote:
dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.


But I know, her emails.


Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
You can back that up with proof, right?
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If cousin is on the right, then its Vince Foster and Pizzagate

If cousin is on the left, then it looks a lot like this drivel Jon just posted ^^^^^


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CID1990 wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
You can back that up with proof, right?
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you have to understand... we all have that slightly wacky cousin who shows up every Thanksgiving and proceeds to shower everybody with conspiracies and discord

If cousin is on the right, then its Vince Foster and Pizzagate

If cousin is on the left, then it looks a lot like this drivel Jon just posted ^^^^^


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Is there truth to the report that this was brought on by a You Tube video and therefore our bigoted right wing populace in the US is to blame? Oh wait that was the last administration’s truth...


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kalm wrote:I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?

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Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote:I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?

Jeez!

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This right here is candor you're not going to get from a normal president. :nod: If I didn't know better, I'd say Trump is an intentional parody president. :lol:

I guess people prefer their BS with a thin veneer of legitimacy.
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Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...

Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?

2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened

3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals

4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging

5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
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Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...

Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?

2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened

3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals

4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging

5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
Because TRUMP!!! :rofl:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...

Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?

2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened

3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals

4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging

5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
Because TRUMP!!! :rofl:
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Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...

Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?

2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened

3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals

4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging

5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
See - here's why you go off the rails on these Trump threads

and it comes from you not reading clearly (thats surprising actually)

I've never said Trump was honest - I said his statements about the Sauds were honest... there is a marked difference. Trump probably only made the statements he did because 1) the truth was easy and 2) the truth gave him at least temporary cover

everything else you said was basically repeating me


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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...

Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?

2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened

3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals

4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging

5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
See - here's why you go off the rails on these Trump threads

and it comes from you not reading clearly (thats surprising actually)

I've never said Trump was honest - I said his statements about the Sauds were honest... there is a marked difference. Trump probably only made the statements he did because 1) the truth was easy and 2) the truth gave him at least temporary cover

everything else you said was basically repeating me


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