So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
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So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
I'm talking about the Saudi Arabia thing. We all can see what is developing. The Saudis lied for the past few weeks about the guy being dead. Now we can see that they are about to produce some scapegoats to cover for their Crown Prince. Someone is going to take the fall in order to justify not holding him responsible. And we can see that our government is going to facilitate the process. Our government is going to help them lie.
And BTW the guy was killed because he was arguing for freedom of expression in the Arab world.
So I can see that there are indeed reasons to avoid holding Saudi Arabia accountable. But are you OK with that? You know damn well that this wasn't some rouge outfit thing. You know damn well the Saudi Arabian government was behind it.
Are you going to be fine when Trump goes along with the scam?
And BTW the guy was killed because he was arguing for freedom of expression in the Arab world.
So I can see that there are indeed reasons to avoid holding Saudi Arabia accountable. But are you OK with that? You know damn well that this wasn't some rouge outfit thing. You know damn well the Saudi Arabian government was behind it.
Are you going to be fine when Trump goes along with the scam?
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
No. I'm not ok with it. But then, I'm a donk.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Holy Cow! A Tod sighting!!Tod wrote:No. I'm not ok with it. But then, I'm a donk.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.
But I know, her emails.
Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
But I know, her emails.
Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
But.... Tod!!!!dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.
But I know, her emails.
Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
A US President appeasing the Saudis...unprecedented!
If we don't have a president willing to shake his finger at them then they'll really be emboldened.![#coffee :coffee:](./images/smilies/coffee.gif)
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If we don't have a president willing to shake his finger at them then they'll really be emboldened.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Yeah, we don’t see Truthy JSO posting that 2009 picture of his hero Obama with King Abdullah. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.Pwns wrote:A US President appeasing the Saudis...unprecedented!![]()
If we don't have a president willing to shake his finger at them then they'll really be emboldened.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
So what happens if, say, a bunch of Saudi nationals carry out a terror attack on US soil and the Saudis just shrug their shoulders and we don't have a president willing to show them who's boss by writing a strongly-worded letter of condemnation? #resist.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
The reason they told this story is they are terrified of what Trump will do to them.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Saudi guy gets killed by other Saudi guys he used to pal around with.
Who da thunk that would have ever happened in a midieval desert theocracy.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Not once did you suggest a course of action.JohnStOnge wrote:I'm talking about the Saudi Arabia thing. We all can see what is developing. The Saudis lied for the past few weeks about the guy being dead. Now we can see that they are about to produce some scapegoats to cover for their Crown Prince. Someone is going to take the fall in order to justify not holding him responsible. And we can see that our government is going to facilitate the process. Our government is going to help them lie.
And BTW the guy was killed because he was arguing for freedom of expression in the Arab world.
So I can see that there are indeed reasons to avoid holding Saudi Arabia accountable. But are you OK with that? You know damn well that this wasn't some rouge outfit thing. You know damn well the Saudi Arabian government was behind it.
Are you going to be fine when Trump goes along with the scam?
What do you want to do, John? Did you want us to do something without hearing the recording, reviewing the evidence, and before SA commented on it?
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Why did he go into that building if he had a pretty good idea that something bad would happen?
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
The Saudis are killing civilians every day in Yemen. They finance radical madrassas all over the world. They were complicit in 9/11
I don't understand why all you whiners are suddenly up in arms about them killing one guy
Oh wait... I do understand
And yes klam, Trump, with his statement on the Saudis, treated us to probably one of the most honest and transparent statements ever made by a US President about our relationship with those peaceful Bedouin degenerates
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I don't understand why all you whiners are suddenly up in arms about them killing one guy
Oh wait... I do understand
And yes klam, Trump, with his statement on the Saudis, treated us to probably one of the most honest and transparent statements ever made by a US President about our relationship with those peaceful Bedouin degenerates
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
You can back that up with proof, right?dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.
But I know, her emails.
Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
SG-SeattleGriz wrote:You can back that up with proof, right?dbackjon wrote:But back to SA - completely disgusting. He was banned from SA because he was critical of Trump. Jared gave the Saudi's intel that allowed their purge.
But I know, her emails.
Then Trump followed that up by encouraging more violence against the press during his rally in Missoula.
you have to understand... we all have that slightly wacky cousin who shows up every Thanksgiving and proceeds to shower everybody with conspiracies and discord
If cousin is on the right, then its Vince Foster and Pizzagate
If cousin is on the left, then it looks a lot like this drivel Jon just posted ^^^^^
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Thank you.CID1990 wrote:SG-SeattleGriz wrote:
You can back that up with proof, right?
you have to understand... we all have that slightly wacky cousin who shows up every Thanksgiving and proceeds to shower everybody with conspiracies and discord
If cousin is on the right, then its Vince Foster and Pizzagate
If cousin is on the left, then it looks a lot like this drivel Jon just posted ^^^^^
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Is there truth to the report that this was brought on by a You Tube video and therefore our bigoted right wing populace in the US is to blame? Oh wait that was the last administration’s truth...
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
kalm wrote:I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?
Jeez!
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
JSO has made that abundantly clear.Pwns wrote:kalm wrote:I think this is where CID comes in saying at least Trump is honest. They’re buying weapons and laying down a shit ton of cash as Trump admitted. What are we supposed to do? Place a moratorium on Muslim immigration or something?
Jeez!
This right here is candor you're not going to get from a normal president.If I didn't know better, I'd say Trump is an intentional parody president.
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Because TRUMP!!!Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
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Yeah! Fuck you moran!!AZGrizFan wrote:Because TRUMP!!!Chizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
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Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
See - here's why you go off the rails on these Trump threadsChizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
and it comes from you not reading clearly (thats surprising actually)
I've never said Trump was honest - I said his statements about the Sauds were honest... there is a marked difference. Trump probably only made the statements he did because 1) the truth was easy and 2) the truth gave him at least temporary cover
everything else you said was basically repeating me
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Re: RE: Re: So are you OK with us going along with a lie?
Psuedo intellectual mother fucker.CID1990 wrote:See - here's why you go off the rails on these Trump threadsChizzang wrote:Expecting Trump to do any different than he's doing right now is ridiculous...
Let's review:
1) They killed a journalist
How exactly is that going to bother a guy that says journalists are the enemy of the state ..?
2) Trump was already in bed with House of Saud long before any of this happened
3) It's an arms deal - we're a Military Industrial Complex - all things are secondary to Military deals
4) This idea that Trump is somehow being "honest" is also hilarious...
He's bragging bout an arms deal that he want's to take full credit for
being "honest" would imply there was some larger moral issues in play... No, he's just bragging
5) we've turned a blind eye to Saudi bullsh!t for 75 years, why does it matter now
and it comes from you not reading clearly (thats surprising actually)
I've never said Trump was honest - I said his statements about the Sauds were honest... there is a marked difference. Trump probably only made the statements he did because 1) the truth was easy and 2) the truth gave him at least temporary cover
everything else you said was basically repeating me
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