2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[css75]

And you call yourself a conservative, that is a joke, Romney is a Dem in GOP clothing.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

No he isn't. He might not be as hardline conservative as you would like but he is not a Dem in GOP clothing. This "if you're not 100% with me than you're against me" crap is baloney. Romney (and Amash) are no more DOnks than Robert Johnson is a Conk. Dissenting opinions and debating ideas on their merits is a good thing.

Agree with 100% argument, but Romney,is just a bitter person, who is envious of Trump. He could not have won anywhere else, so he carried his carpetbag to Utah, where the Mormons listened like sheep to the LDS leaders in SLC and made him Senator. Republicans will sooner or later regret having him in Senate.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[SDHornet]

Sounds like pretty much everyone is turning on Biden after last nights debate and some of the msm talking heads questioning what the DNC should do now. That's one hell of a Ukrainian boomerang right there.

[GannonFan]

Sounds like pretty much everyone is turning on Biden after last nights debate and some of the msm talking heads questioning what the DNC should do now. That's one hell of a Ukrainian boomerang right there.

It's a long way to the end of February 2020 and the South Carolina primary. Biden needs to find a way to survive until then. I'm not sure he makes it and I wouldn't have said that months ago.

[CID1990]

Sounds like pretty much everyone is turning on Biden after last nights debate and some of the msm talking heads questioning what the DNC should do now. That's one hell of a Ukrainian boomerang right there.

It's a long way to the end of February 2020 and the South Carolina primary. Biden needs to find a way to survive until then. I'm not sure he makes it and I wouldn't have said that months ago.

He’s definitely much more incoherent now than he was during his 8 years as Veep. If he gets elected theres even odds that his VP will become POTUS by succession.

Which might be an interesting thought exercise... should he be the nominee, should he go with a vanilla running mate to draw the moderates and swing voters, or should he go with one of the far lefties to court the moonbat vote?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Ivytalk]

It's a long way to the end of February 2020 and the South Carolina primary. Biden needs to find a way to survive until then. I'm not sure he makes it and I wouldn't have said that months ago.

He’s definitely much more incoherent now than he was during his 8 years as Veep. If he gets elected theres even odds that his VP will become POTUS by succession.

Which might be an interesting thought exercise... should he be the nominee, should he go with a vanilla running mate to draw the moderates and swing voters, or should he go with one of the far lefties to court the moonbat vote?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rumor has it that Biden is coming out with a sequel to Promise Me, Dad that will be called Hang It Up, Dad.

[Pwns]

That moment when Joe Biden sounds like the editorial page of National Review.

[kalm]

That moment when Joe Biden sounds like the editorial page of National Review.

How much of that would be balanced by a reduction in your healthcare costs?

[GannonFan]

That moment when Joe Biden sounds like the editorial page of National Review.

How much of that would be balanced by a reduction in your healthcare costs?

Depends how much we ration. What services and drugs are unnecessary and can be eliminated?

[89Hen]

Again: I am a conservative.

[Skjellyfetti]

What position does JSO have that isn't conservative?

[CAA Flagship]

What position does JSO have that isn't conservative?

I don't know, but he sure can't put policy ahead of personality. I would think most conservatives would be able to do that.

[89Hen]

What position does JSO have that isn't conservative?

Voting for them.

[kalm]

How much of that would be balanced by a reduction in your healthcare costs?

Depends how much we ration. What services and drugs are unnecessary and can be eliminated?

So if we offer Medicare for all at the same levels of service coverage will their be a net increase costs between increased middle class taxes and healthcare expenses?

[Baldy]

Depends how much we ration. What services and drugs are unnecessary and can be eliminated?

So if we offer Medicare for all at the same levels of service coverage will their be a net increase costs between increased middle class taxes and healthcare expenses?

*there

[AZGrizFan]

That moment when Joe Biden sounds like the editorial page of National Review.

How much of that would be balanced by a reduction in your healthcare costs?

That's cute.

[kalm]

How much of that would be balanced by a reduction in your healthcare costs?

That's cute.

You do understand healthcare costs include insurance premiums, right?

[GannonFan]

Depends how much we ration. What services and drugs are unnecessary and can be eliminated?

So if we offer Medicare for all at the same levels of service coverage will their be a net increase costs between increased middle class taxes and healthcare expenses?

Eh, don't know. And don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of a single payer health system. I don't see how we don't go that way. I'm also realistic that the discussion for the next century or so then will be how come the people with money go outside the system to get their health care and how come people without money are stuck in a health care system that doesn't offer the same levels of service that the private rich people's one does. You know, like the UK has been arguing about for 70 years.

[AZGrizFan]

That's cute.

You do understand healthcare costs include insurance premiums, right?

It's cute that you are naïve enough to think ANYTHING the government gest involved in is somehow going to become magically cheaper because "government benevolent". I suppose it'll work something like college tuition did with the implementation of government guaranteed student loans....

[UNI88]

So if we offer Medicare for all at the same levels of service coverage will their be a net increase costs between increased middle class taxes and healthcare expenses?

Eh, don't know. And don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of a single payer health system. I don't see how we don't go that way. I'm also realistic that the discussion for the next century or so then will be how come the people with money go outside the system to get their health care and how come people without money are stuck in a health care system that doesn't offer the same levels of service that the private rich people's one does. You know, like the UK has been arguing about for 70 years.

I agree. They'll come up with a better single-payer plan if Congress is covered by the same plan.

[kalm]

You do understand healthcare costs include insurance premiums, right?

It's cute that you are naïve enough to think ANYTHING the government gest involved in is somehow going to become magically cheaper because "government benevolent". I suppose it'll work something like college tuition did with the implementation of government guaranteed student loans....

Different arguments. You can go without a college degree...insulin...not so much.

You can poke holes in every system. But if my taxes go up $3000 and I save $8000 in premiums...

[Skjellyfetti]

You do understand healthcare costs include insurance premiums, right?

It's cute that you are naïve enough to think ANYTHING the government gest involved in is somehow going to become magically cheaper because "government benevolent". I suppose it'll work something like college tuition did with the implementation of government guaranteed student loans....

I assume you'll be opting out of Medicare when you're eligible since you'll save so much money through a private plan?

[SeattleGriz]

Hillary says that Gabbard is a Russian asset.

Man, she's like grampa Simpson when he was claiming Death was coming to get him.

[GannonFan]

It's cute that you are naïve enough to think ANYTHING the government gest involved in is somehow going to become magically cheaper because "government benevolent". I suppose it'll work something like college tuition did with the implementation of government guaranteed student loans....

I assume you'll be opting out of Medicare when you're eligible since you'll save so much money through a private plan?

He'll do what all rich people do - he'll take what the government gives him and then with his own money he'll also buy in to a program that gets him the pills and the procedures faster and with better doctors and hospitals. Again, the UK is a perfect model to see what will happen and I can live with that - but I'm also not poor so I won't be waiting for a bed.

[GannonFan]

Hillary says that Gabbard is a Russian asset.

Man, she's like grampa Simpson when he was claiming Death was coming to get him.

Hey, she said Stein was a Russian asset in 2016 as well. Darn it, I purposely tried not to vote for a Russian asset - they're just everywhere apparently.

[AZGrizFan]

It's cute that you are naïve enough to think ANYTHING the government gest involved in is somehow going to become magically cheaper because "government benevolent". I suppose it'll work something like college tuition did with the implementation of government guaranteed student loans....

Different arguments. You can go without a college degree...insulin...not so much.

You can poke holes in every system. But if my taxes go up $3000 and I save $8000 in premiums...

If you REALLY think that's the way the math is going to work out, I've got some oceanfront property in AZ I'd like to sell you.