Is it? How many conk candidates from 2016 could clear it?Ivytalk wrote:Mighty low bar there, CIDCID1990 wrote:
What if I told you “not a cunt” was my main criteria?
Yang is the only one who is not a cunt
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If only the “makers” earned their crumbs...Ivytalk wrote:I don’t understand the so-called libertarian intelligentsia’s infatuation with Yang. He’s just a straight Buttigieg and almost as statist. Yang throws a few crumbs to the “makers” but that’s about it.CID1990 wrote:
I’m not afraid of things that can’t happen, which is why I’m not afraid of Yang’s “deal killers”
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AmashUNI88 wrote:Is it? How many conk candidates from 2016 could clear it?Ivytalk wrote: Mighty low bar there, CID
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There you go again with that “both sides suck” riff.UNI88 wrote:Is it? How many conk candidates from 2016 could clear it?Ivytalk wrote: Mighty low bar there, CID
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Skjellyfetti wrote:maybe republicans could come up with their own plan that would be better?AZGrizFan wrote: Universal healthcare used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. Medicare for all used to be a thing that “couldn’t happen”. The list goes on and on. Those things have a way of worming their way into the mainstream and that’s how we’ve gotten where we are.
Right now, where we were in 2008 was a better planIbanez wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
maybe republicans could come up with their own plan that would be better?
Oh, you were serious about that?
Good God that’s some convoluted logic. Exactly who would we be looking at if Trump weren’t president?JohnStOnge wrote:If I had to bet now I'd bet they nominate Warren. That disappoints me. I think she has a good chance to beat Trump. Better than 50:50 at this point, I think. But if they do nominate her it'll be a situation in which they could have done much better in terms of putting up a candidate likely to beat Trump. Biden would be a virtual lock if he Democrats had said, "OK, we've identified the best shot and we're going to rally behind him."
Also it means we could end up with Warren as President. That's not as bad as having Trump as President. But it's not good. It's just too bad the Republicans put us in this position by coming up with Trump. No way we'd be looking at a realistic possibility of Elizabeth Warren being President if the Republicans hadn't come up with Trump on their side.
After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.JohnStOnge wrote:If I had to bet now I'd bet they nominate Warren. That disappoints me. I think she has a good chance to beat Trump. Better than 50:50 at this point, I think. But if they do nominate her it'll be a situation in which they could have done much better in terms of putting up a candidate likely to beat Trump. Biden would be a virtual lock if he Democrats had said, "OK, we've identified the best shot and we're going to rally behind him."
Also it means we could end up with Warren as President. That's not as bad as having Trump as President. But it's not good. It's just too bad the Republicans put us in this position by coming up with Trump. No way we'd be looking at a realistic possibility of Elizabeth Warren being President if the Republicans hadn't come up with Trump on their side.
He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.Ivytalk wrote:After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.JohnStOnge wrote:If I had to bet now I'd bet they nominate Warren. That disappoints me. I think she has a good chance to beat Trump. Better than 50:50 at this point, I think. But if they do nominate her it'll be a situation in which they could have done much better in terms of putting up a candidate likely to beat Trump. Biden would be a virtual lock if he Democrats had said, "OK, we've identified the best shot and we're going to rally behind him."
Also it means we could end up with Warren as President. That's not as bad as having Trump as President. But it's not good. It's just too bad the Republicans put us in this position by coming up with Trump. No way we'd be looking at a realistic possibility of Elizabeth Warren being President if the Republicans hadn't come up with Trump on their side.
Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.GannonFan wrote:He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.Ivytalk wrote: After months and months of posts defending Donk policies and excusing the manifold shortcomings of Donk POTUS candidates, JSO makes watershed post hedging his bets and laying the groundwork for future CS attacks on the hard-left agenda of President Elizabeth Warren (if it happens). All in the name of preserving what’s left of his tattered “libertarian” street cred. What a profile in courage.
Oh, and Warren isn't winning anything without winning the Black vote and the organized labor vote and I don't see any indication she's going to win that. She's like a weaker Bernie than Bernie was in 2016 and Bernie couldn't crack the Democratic establishment. She won't fare any better. It'll be a slow, long, slog to the nomination, but assuming Biden doesn't have a health scare or (god forbid) dies he's the nominee.
Bad examples. McD's, BL, and the Cowboys look great on TV. They show well when put in front of the public. Flashy. Desireable. Biden and Warren are the opposite.kalm wrote:Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.GannonFan wrote:
He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.
Oh, and Warren isn't winning anything without winning the Black vote and the organized labor vote and I don't see any indication she's going to win that. She's like a weaker Bernie than Bernie was in 2016 and Bernie couldn't crack the Democratic establishment. She won't fare any better. It'll be a slow, long, slog to the nomination, but assuming Biden doesn't have a health scare or (god forbid) dies he's the nominee.
I think she's in a great role for her as a Senator. I'm not sure she'd make a very good President. And I don't think she really has a good shot at the nomination, either. Biden would literally need to die at this point for her to win. So she has a chance.kalm wrote:Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.GannonFan wrote:
He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.
Oh, and Warren isn't winning anything without winning the Black vote and the organized labor vote and I don't see any indication she's going to win that. She's like a weaker Bernie than Bernie was in 2016 and Bernie couldn't crack the Democratic establishment. She won't fare any better. It'll be a slow, long, slog to the nomination, but assuming Biden doesn't have a health scare or (god forbid) dies he's the nominee.
What if he changed it to Murica has show a tendency to look at style over substance? Would that work?CAA Flagship wrote:Bad examples. McD's, BL, and the Cowboys look great on TV. They show well when put in front of the public. Flashy. Desireable. Biden and Warren are the opposite.kalm wrote:
Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.
Try that again.
But his first three sentences are spot on.CAA Flagship wrote:Bad examples. McD's, BL, and the Cowboys look great on TV. They show well when put in front of the public. Flashy. Desireable. Biden and Warren are the opposite.kalm wrote:
Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.
Try that again.
God can you imagine that breathless whining for at least 4 years?GannonFan wrote:I think she's in a great role for her as a Senator. I'm not sure she'd make a very good President. And I don't think she really has a good shot at the nomination, either. Biden would literally need to die at this point for her to win. So she has a chance.kalm wrote:
Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.
I've had a hard time listening to Presidents live since somewhere during Clinton's second term. They've all become cringe-worthy for different reasons. I don't think I'd change that aversion with her being President.CID1990 wrote:God can you imagine that breathless whining for at least 4 years?GannonFan wrote:
I think she's in a great role for her as a Senator. I'm not sure she'd make a very good President. And I don't think she really has a good shot at the nomination, either. Biden would literally need to die at this point for her to win. So she has a chance.
I hope we have a normal President again before I die
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Maybe that’s part of my affinity for Yang. I’m actually interested in listening to him because he makes reasoned arguments.GannonFan wrote:I've had a hard time listening to Presidents live since somewhere during Clinton's second term. They've all become cringe-worthy for different reasons. I don't think I'd change that aversion with her being President.CID1990 wrote:
God can you imagine that breathless whining for at least 4 years?
I hope we have a normal President again before I die
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kalm wrote:Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.GannonFan wrote:
He literally has no idea what he's for and what he's against anymore. He's done so many flips and turns he's just dizzy now.
Oh, and Warren isn't winning anything without winning the Black vote and the organized labor vote and I don't see any indication she's going to win that. She's like a weaker Bernie than Bernie was in 2016 and Bernie couldn't crack the Democratic establishment. She won't fare any better. It'll be a slow, long, slog to the nomination, but assuming Biden doesn't have a health scare or (god forbid) dies he's the nominee.
I remember you used to watch TYT. There’s still some great reporting and entertaining shows and Cenk, Ben, and Brent Erlich are good but man, some of the fill-in guest hosts are bat shit crazy SJW left.SDHornet wrote:kalm wrote:
Warren is not impressive in debates. She doesn’t exude leadership...more like panic. I think Biden, with his senility, and Warren’s lack of confident stage presence are significant liabilities that Trump can exploit. ‘ Murica has shown a tendency to look past quality...see McDonalds, Budlight, Dancing With The Stars, and the Dallas Cowboys.
Actually I stopped watching when Cenk booted Jimmy Dore from his platform for not towing the DNC line. TYT's Biden's Corn Pop story was one of the first ones to come up on the Youtube search.kalm wrote:I remember you used to watch TYT. There’s still some great reporting and entertaining shows and Cenk, Ben, and Brent Erlich are good but man, some of the fill-in guest hosts are bat shit crazy SJW left.SDHornet wrote:
I liked Jimmy too, but Cenk is no friend of the DNC. Was that Jimmy’s take?SDHornet wrote:Actually I stopped watching when Cenk booted Jimmy Dore from his platform for not towing the DNC line. TYT's Biden's Corn Pop story was one of the first ones to come up on the Youtube search.kalm wrote:
I remember you used to watch TYT. There’s still some great reporting and entertaining shows and Cenk, Ben, and Brent Erlich are good but man, some of the fill-in guest hosts are bat shit crazy SJW left.
It was over the candidates. Basically TYT is in the tank for all the "progressive" folks, and Dore is a Bernie guy (and he kinda likes Tulsi).kalm wrote:I liked Jimmy too, but Cenk is no friend of the DNC. Was that Jimmy’s take?SDHornet wrote: Actually I stopped watching when Cenk booted Jimmy Dore from his platform for not towing the DNC line. TYT's Biden's Corn Pop story was one of the first ones to come up on the Youtube search.
*toeingSDHornet wrote:Actually I stopped watching when Cenk booted Jimmy Dore from his platform for not towing the DNC line. TYT's Biden's Corn Pop story was one of the first ones to come up on the Youtube search.kalm wrote:
I remember you used to watch TYT. There’s still some great reporting and entertaining shows and Cenk, Ben, and Brent Erlich are good but man, some of the fill-in guest hosts are bat shit crazy SJW left.