Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!Ivytalk wrote:Hey, dback! Big day for you! Hildabeast told the BBC that she’s “under enormous pressure” to get into the race! And Mayor Pete is now ahead in Iowa!
I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;GannonFan wrote:Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!Ivytalk wrote:Hey, dback! Big day for you! Hildabeast told the BBC that she’s “under enormous pressure” to get into the race! And Mayor Pete is now ahead in Iowa!
AZGrizFan wrote:I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;GannonFan wrote:
Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
I could vote for the guy if he were the nominee. Especially if it looks as though the Senate will remain red.GannonFan wrote:Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!Ivytalk wrote:Hey, dback! Big day for you! Hildabeast told the BBC that she’s “under enormous pressure” to get into the race! And Mayor Pete is now ahead in Iowa!
Support for something and actually making it happen are two different things.AZGrizFan wrote:I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;GannonFan wrote:
Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
Yes, I realize that. We’ve had this discussion before. And I stand by my assertion that there’s lots of things we have now that started out as “support” for something.CID1990 wrote:Support for something and actually making it happen are two different things.AZGrizFan wrote:
I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
Neither of those things will come to pass in our lifetimes.
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It takes more leadership & administrative chops to run a college town than it does to run a Congressional staff so that actually puts him ahead of most of the other Donk candidates.css75 wrote:Lack of running something other than a college time is huge, as are the 2 points you mention.AZGrizFan wrote:
I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
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Yeah, and they've been easy sellsAZGrizFan wrote:Yes, I realize that. We’ve had this discussion before. And I stand by my assertion that there’s lots of things we have now that started out as “support” for something.CID1990 wrote:
Support for something and actually making it happen are two different things.
Neither of those things will come to pass in our lifetimes.
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Both of them?Col Hogan wrote:New Hmpahire backers of Joe Biden worry about Michael Bloomberg getting into the Democratic race for the nomination...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... -candidacyBloomberg's looming presidential candidacy is effectively a vote of no confidence in Biden's chances, amid slipping poll numbers and slack fundraising. Bloomberg, New York City mayor for 12 years starting in 2002, would reportedly spend "whatever it takes" to win the Democratic nomination and fall 2020 fight against President Trump. With an estimated net worth of $53 billion, Bloomberg expects that he can ignore the first four primary states and instead flood airwaves with advertisements in hopes of scoring a series of wins on Super Tuesday, March 3, when more than a dozen states and entities vote.
Big ideas for sure. And candidates should have big ideas.AZGrizFan wrote:I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;GannonFan wrote:
Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
So you have a problem with a guy that’s only run city but you’re ok with a guy that’s run multiple businesses into bankruptcy and has never run a government?css75 wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
Lack of running something other than a college time is huge, as are the 2 points you mention.
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There's a lot of truth in this.HI54UNI wrote:Mayor Pete is the latest fad. The Donks won't nominate a white guy unless it is Pedo Joe. Plus they need African American support and AAs in general are not going to vote for a gay man.
Well, if you're stipulating that we've started down that slippery slope and it's inevitable, then what the fuck, I guess I can vote for him and just accelerate the process...Ibanez wrote:Big ideas for sure. And candidates should have big ideas.AZGrizFan wrote:
I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
But I don’t see any of those happening. If they do, it’ll be around the time 2A is repealed and the “3rd” American Revolution begins.
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I have stipulated no such thing. "Around the time 2A is repealed" can be read as " when pigs fly."AZGrizFan wrote:Well, if you're stipulating that we've started down that slippery slope and it's inevitable, then what the fuck, I guess I can vote for him and just accelerate the process...Ibanez wrote: Big ideas for sure. And candidates should have big ideas.
But I don’t see any of those happening. If they do, it’ll be around the time 2A is repealed and the “3rd” American Revolution begins.
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I agree, if I felt those were real positions he'd pursue then I wouldn't vote for him either. But he's been showing real pragmatism by walking back both those positions in the past few months. He's seeing the weakness in Biden as the "less whacky" candidate and is already moving to fill that void. That's the same reason why Bloomberg is suddenly in the game, but I think he's too late to stop Mayor Pete from seizing that mantle. The Dems will never allow Sanders to get the nomination - they rigged it that way in 2016 and they'll do it again in 2020 - and Warren is just too far gone to be a legitimate nominee. Mayor Pete is probably helped a bit from the fact that the Senate is likely to stay red after 2020 - to get anything done you'll have to be less of a radical, and he's that compared to Warren.AZGrizFan wrote:I could stomach most of his political positions. He’s got two that really concern me, however;GannonFan wrote:
Hey, if Mayor Pete can beat the Democratic Party machine and actually get the nomination he likely has my vote. Take that Jill Stein, darn Russian asset!
* He supports abolition of the electoral college
* He supports expansion of the SC to up to 15 seats
Not sure if I consider those to be showstoppers, but they’re pretty big deals. I’d have to think about that a while....
Billionaire white dude.AZGrizFan wrote:I saw a presidential ad for a guy yesterday I've NEVER heard of.
Tom Steyer? Who the fuck?
His ads have been plastered all over the Carolina's for months.AZGrizFan wrote:I saw a presidential ad for a guy yesterday I've NEVER heard of.
Tom Steyer? Who the fuck?
Ivytalk wrote:Billionaire white dude.AZGrizFan wrote:I saw a presidential ad for a guy yesterday I've NEVER heard of.
Tom Steyer? Who the fuck?
Can I still vote for him to accelerate the process?Ibanez wrote:I have stipulated no such thing. "Around the time 2A is repealed" can be read as " when pigs fly."AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, if you're stipulating that we've started down that slippery slope and it's inevitable, then what the fuck, I guess I can vote for him and just accelerate the process...
You're lucky you don't live in Iowa. That dumbass has been on TV since Trump took office. First he was pushing impeachment and now his campaign ads.AZGrizFan wrote:I saw a presidential ad for a guy yesterday I've NEVER heard of.
Tom Steyer? Who the fuck?
AZGrizFan wrote:Can I still vote for him to accelerate the process?Ibanez wrote: I have stipulated no such thing. "Around the time 2A is repealed" can be read as " when pigs fly."
Sure why not. Do you live in a state where your vote counts? Mine doesn't. It only counts if I vote for Trump.Ibanez wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Can I still vote for him to accelerate the process?
His whole ad was about big bad bankers and how they've stolen so much money from Americans since the recession...and how he and his benevolent wife started a "community non-profit bank" to share profits with the community. Yeah, motherfucker, it's called a CREDIT UNION. Acts like he fucking invented a concept that's been around for 150 years.HI54UNI wrote:You're lucky you don't live in Iowa. That dumbass has been on TV since Trump took office. First he was pushing impeachment and now his campaign ads.AZGrizFan wrote:I saw a presidential ad for a guy yesterday I've NEVER heard of.
Tom Steyer? Who the fuck?
I wish I was a billionaire so I could just light money on fire. I read something awhile back about how much money Steyer has spent between backing congressional candidates (virtually none of which one), impeachment, and now his candidacy. The consultants working for him have to be laughing all the way to the bank.
