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HI54UNI wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
How does that possibly help the economy? We're talking about $1.6 TRILLION dollars. Again: EVERY DOLLAR THEY SPEND IS OUR MONEY. To get that amount, they'd have to raise taxes like a motherfucker, spin it through the incredibly inept government machine, waste 9/10ths of it and spit out about 1/10th of it on the other side, and then redistribute it like the benevolent being that they are.
Haven't you learned anything from AOC? Just print it.

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Exactly.

AZ, do you really think I'm advocating for that?
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UNI88 wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
Haven't you learned anything from AOC? Just print it.

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Exactly.

AZ, do you really think I'm advocating for that?
No. :thumb:

But Trip (and others are)...and they have ZERO answers as to how this would play out. Much like most socialist wet dreams, there's no accounting of the cost.
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Their annual subsidies rival the pentagon's budget. :coffee:

You can call it something different if you want to - but it's still our money.
Similar can be said for the Pentagon's budget which, like bank bailouts is also something Z is supposedly against. We can't afford subsidized education because were not done bombing the middle east yet.
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the trillion dollar costs of war are undertaken with little to no discussion but them fucking deadbeat kids aren't getting any free lunch even if we we have to abolish the Department of Education.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Their annual subsidies rival the pentagon's budget. :coffee:

You can call it something different if you want to - but it's still our money.
No shit, sherlock. Every dime the government spends is our money. When you and other people start realizing that, we'll all be a lot better off.
..and they just gave a trillion dollars of it to the same people that crashed the economy about ten years ago. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
Exactly.

AZ, do you really think I'm advocating for that?
No. :thumb:

But Trip (and others are)...and they have ZERO answers as to how this would play out. Much like most socialist wet dreams, there's no accounting of the cost.
which is the precise number of answers you and your parasitic peers have about how twenty years of war, undeclared, will play out.

Which is staggering profits for the banker scum that fund both sides of all wars and crippling debt for the rest of us.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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Their annual subsidies rival the pentagon's budget. :coffee:

You can call it something different if you want to - but it's still our money.
Nope. Taking less tax $$ from the oil companies (who are operating under the same tax laws as everyone else) doesn't equal a bailout, or a subsidy.
I guess it only feels that way to those making up the difference. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
No. :thumb:

But Trip (and others are)...and they have ZERO answers as to how this would play out. Much like most socialist wet dreams, there's no accounting of the cost.
which is the precise number of answers you and your parasitic peers have about how twenty years of war, undeclared, will play out.

Which is staggering profits for the banker scum that fund both sides of all wars and crippling debt for the rest of us.
Me? You know where I stand on all these wars, overseas bases, and the need for the US to be world police. Don't lump me in that group.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
which is the precise number of answers you and your parasitic peers have about how twenty years of war, undeclared, will play out.

Which is staggering profits for the banker scum that fund both sides of all wars and crippling debt for the rest of us.
Me? You know where I stand on all these wars, overseas bases, and the need for the US to be world police. Don't lump me in that group.
Yeah this BS from the same wee banshees that howled when Trump criticized NATO and suggested Korea should pay for our presence there

Don’t waste your time AZ... you’re dealing with some brain addled derangement on the part of these guys when it comes to foreign policy and forever war
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CID1990 wrote:
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Me? You know where I stand on all these wars, overseas bases, and the need for the US to be world police. Don't lump me in that group.
Yeah this BS from the same wee banshees that howled when Trump criticized NATO and suggested Korea should pay for our presence there

Don’t waste your time AZ... you’re dealing with some brain addled derangement on the part of these guys when it comes to foreign policy and forever war
Oh relax. You like to point out how the Nordic’s could only afford universal healthcare and free education because of our military...which are good points. Questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget and/or corporate welfare today is just as fair.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Yeah this BS from the same wee banshees that howled when Trump criticized NATO and suggested Korea should pay for our presence there

Don’t waste your time AZ... you’re dealing with some brain addled derangement on the part of these guys when it comes to foreign policy and forever war
Oh relax. You like to point out how the Nordic’s could only afford universal healthcare and free education because of our military...which are good points. Questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget and/or corporate welfare today is just as fair.
:suspicious: :suspicious: WE ARE questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget. And imagine how much corporate welfare, free education, yada yada yada we could give away if we didn't piss away money on stupid shit (defense budget being just ONE of many "stupid shit" buckets).
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Oh relax. You like to point out how the Nordic’s could only afford universal healthcare and free education because of our military...which are good points. Questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget and/or corporate welfare today is just as fair.
:suspicious: :suspicious: WE ARE questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget. And imagine how much corporate welfare, free education, yada yada yada we could give away if we didn't piss away money on stupid shit (defense budget being just ONE of many "stupid shit" buckets).
You were the one asking how we’re going to pay for debt forgiveness. You have a couple of answers now.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:suspicious: :suspicious: WE ARE questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget. And imagine how much corporate welfare, free education, yada yada yada we could give away if we didn't piss away money on stupid shit (defense budget being just ONE of many "stupid shit" buckets).
You were the one asking how we’re going to pay for debt forgiveness. You have a couple of answers now.
Debt forgiveness IS one of the "stupid shit" buckets. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:suspicious: :suspicious: WE ARE questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget. And imagine how much corporate welfare, free education, yada yada yada we could give away if we didn't piss away money on stupid shit (defense budget being just ONE of many "stupid shit" buckets).
You were the one asking how we’re going to pay for debt forgiveness. You have a couple of answers now.
Why do we want to pay for debt forgiveness? Why do we want to reward poor decision-making? Doesn't that go against the Law of Natural Selection? Why do liberals pick and choose which aspects of science they follow?
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While it's harsh, student debt as it relates to college has been a well debated topic now for a decade or two. If you haven't heard about the rising costs of college and the danger of taking out too much money to pay for college then it's almost a self-fulfilling issue. Why people continue to make these mistakes is certainly a question, but these folks are not being hoodwinked and haven't been for awhile now. Pick a college that's affordable, study a major with a goal of one day being employed in a decent job, and go from there.
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GannonFan wrote:While it's harsh, student debt as it relates to college has been a well debated topic now for a decade or two. If you haven't heard about the rising costs of college and the danger of taking out too much money to pay for college then it's almost a self-fulfilling issue. Why people continue to make these mistakes is certainly a question, but these folks are not being hoodwinked and haven't been for awhile now. Pick a college that's affordable, study a major with a goal of one day being employed in a decent job, and go from there.
There's a sense of entitlement out there that if I'm accepted to a $60k/yr school, then by God I should get to go there. Never mind that I have no money, my parents have no money, and I'd have to go $300,000 in debt to get a degree from there. And this flawed mindset is compounded by the fact that many, many kids attending college have no clue what they're going to do with the degree they get once (and if) they graduate, or get a degree that seems "fun" with no clue as to the type or job (or pay) they can demand once they're done. Hence the # of education majors who subsequently bitch incessantly about the pay teachers get. :coffee:

True story: My wife (a journalist by trade) worked with a girl who went to Harvard. HARVARD. And got a journalism degree to go make $25,000 per year. Never mind there's 20 other schools that have award-winning, nationally recognized journalism programs at 1/4 or 1/5 the price.... :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
You were the one asking how we’re going to pay for debt forgiveness. You have a couple of answers now.
Why do we want to pay for debt forgiveness? Why do we want to reward poor decision-making? Doesn't that go against the Law of Natural Selection? Why do liberals pick and choose which aspects of science they follow?
Different question than how. I’m not a fan of blanket debt forgiveness but I’m open at least revisiting the bankruptcy laws commensurate to other forms of debt.
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kalm wrote:
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Yeah this BS from the same wee banshees that howled when Trump criticized NATO and suggested Korea should pay for our presence there

Don’t waste your time AZ... you’re dealing with some brain addled derangement on the part of these guys when it comes to foreign policy and forever war
Oh relax. You like to point out how the Nordic’s could only afford universal healthcare and free education because of our military...which are good points. Questioning the priority of a bloated defense budget and/or corporate welfare today is just as fair.
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Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain
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MARCH 21, 20195:45 AM

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-r ... -left.html
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kalm wrote:Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-r ... -left.html
:lol: It's like both parties are trying to win most dysfunctional. But there can only be one winner and the Dems are surging into the lead.
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kalm wrote:Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain
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https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-r ... -left.html
*effect
**Chait

Those are just nits. You’re right about this. :thumb:
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain
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By JUSTIN PETERS
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https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-r ... -left.html
*effect
**Chait

Those are just nits. You’re right about this. :thumb:
99% of the time (a number I just made up) it’s effect. Not sure why I chose the “a” here.

I think “affect” should be stripped from the dictionary. :twisted:

*** should be “Choad”. He also preached that Hillary was the one who would beat Trump.
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: *effect
**Chait

Those are just nits. You’re right about this. :thumb:
99% of the time (a number I just made up) it’s effect. Not sure why I chose the “a” here.

I think “affect” should be stripped from the dictionary. :twisted:

*** should be “Choad”. He also preached that Hillary was the one who would beat Trump.
Chait certainly is a choad! :lol:
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kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: *effect
**Chait

Those are just nits. You’re right about this. :thumb:
99% of the time (a number I just made up) it’s effect. Not sure why I chose the “a” here.

I think “affect” should be stripped from the dictionary. :twisted:

*** should be “Choad”. He also preached that Hillary was the one who would beat Trump.
If you stripped "affect" from the dictionary, it would have the effect of affecting the way you use the English language, effectively.
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This is interesting. Is it really a "gun violence" victim if they're seeking out criminals and challenging them to a fight? Are they just hoping nobody bothers to look up anything about the back story here? What kind of gun control laws would have prevented this death?

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fort ... 535443.php
Witnesses told deputies they were riding with Kemp in Kemp’s vehicle. Kemp drove to the Lakemont subdivision to confront Brandon Lacour over a personal matter. Kemp parked down the street from Lacour’s residence and called him on his cell phone, challenging Lacour, 17, to a fight. Lacour showed up with several other persons, all riding in Lacour’s vehicle.

Lacour and his passengers exited the vehicle and approached Kemp. One of Lacour’s passengers was carrying a hand gun. Witnesses told deputies that Lacour told the subject with the gun to shoot George Kemp, which he did.
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kalm wrote:Now that he’s surging in the polls, Operation Kill Bernie is in full affect. Hit pieces from across the Dem establishment spectrum like Jonathan Chaite in NYM. anyone remotely complimentary will also be targeted like this here...

Joe Rogan’s Galaxy Brain
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By JUSTIN PETERS
MARCH 21, 20195:45 AM

https://slate.com/culture/2019/03/joe-r ... -left.html
:nod:

The outrage over the Joe Rogan "endorsement" should be all anyone needs to see to know they are totally butthurt about the Bernie surge.

Also interesting to note that the Never Trumpers are probably just as butthurt as corporate Dems. :lol:
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