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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby SDHornet » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:58 pm

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Ibanez wrote:There still isn’t a crisis. Border crossings are at historical lows, most drugs come through PoE. Our immigration laws need to be enforced and we could use some extra support where it matters.

But Trump has fabricated this crisis so his low-information base won’t bail on him after he’s caved on the wall during the shutdown and caved on his promise that Mexico will pay.


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I disagree. There IS a crisis on the southern border...Not sure a “national emergency” declaration is the path to a solution, but there most definitely IS a crisis on the border. I’ve lived in border states for the past 28 years. There’s a crisis.

This. Anyone thinking there isn't an issue with illegal immigration on the southern border is completely clueless.

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby SDHornet » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:04 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, since mark won’t answer I’ll ask you...what’s your number? What number is “ok” and at what point does a crisis exist?

Let me rephrase for you, Russian. How many of Putin’s jackbooted thugs pouring across the Ukraine border is too many?

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:37 am

Looks like libertarian Justin Amash is the only GOP Congressman thus far to sign on to the Donk resolution opposing the “national emergency.” Good to see at least one nominal Republican who will stand up for Constitutional principle. :|

That said, all the Donks are political opportunists who invoke the Constitution because ... Trump. :coffee:
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby CID1990 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:39 am

Ivytalk wrote:Looks like libertarian Justin Amash is the only GOP Congressman thus far to sign on to the Donk resolution opposing the “national emergency.” Good to see at least one nominal Republican who will stand up for Constitutional principle. :|

That said, all the Donks are political opportunists who invoke the Constitution because ... Trump. :coffee:


HotAir called this the “How Dare You Use The Authority We Surrendered 43 Years Ago” bill

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Skjellyfetti » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:40 am

Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby CID1990 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:26 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.


You and your post are meaningless


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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:37 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.


That was uncalled for. Amash has a better concept of liberty than you and your Russian partner put together.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Skjellyfetti » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:13 am

Not saying anything negative about Amash. :kisswink:

We're on the same side on this "National Emergency" :thumb:

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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:33 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash. :kisswink:

We're on the same side on this "National Emergency" :thumb:


Good to hear it. Remember that post next time we have a Democratic POTUS who can’t get what (s)he wants from Congress. :twocents:
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby CID1990 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:07 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash. :kisswink:

We're on the same side on this "National Emergency" :thumb:



Then what were you saying?

You were doing some of your trademark shallow binary thinking again, weren’t you?


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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby BDKJMU » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:50 pm

2/21
Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.

It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby SDHornet » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:08 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash. :kisswink:

We're on the same side on this "National Emergency" :thumb:



Then what were you saying?

You were doing some of your trademark shallow binary thinking again, weren’t you?


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Probably something about the Constitution just being a piece of paper or something. :coffee:

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:56 am

BDKJMU wrote:2/21
Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.

It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html

What’s a bollard? :?
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby HI54UNI » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:57 am

Ivytalk wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:2/21
Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.

It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html

What’s a bollard? :?


Bollards

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Bollard style border fence

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Re: RE: Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby UNI88 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:57 am

Ivytalk wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:2/21
Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.

It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html

What’s a bollard? :?


Never Mind the Bollards ...

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:58 am

HI54UNI wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:What’s a bollard? :?


Bollards

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Bollard style border fence

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Thanks. I’ve heard of collards, but dem tings ain’t no greens.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:36 pm

So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.

So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:43 pm

There are two checks on the executive. They won't be able to override the veto... but SCOTUS will finish it off, imo.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:50 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:There are two checks on the executive. They won't be able to override the veto... but SCOTUS will finish it off, imo.


Maybe, if SCOTUS doesn’t find some lame-ass political question argument to duck it.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby AZGrizFan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:23 pm

I’m fine with the Senate voting this down. It’s a piss poor use of the national emergency declaration.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

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AZGrizFan wrote:I’m fine with the Senate voting this down. It’s a piss poor use of the national emergency declaration.


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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:34 am

Ivytalk wrote:So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.

So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.

I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:37 am

Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.

So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.

I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.

Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:39 am

Ivytalk wrote:
Ibanez wrote:I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.

Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.

I was just reading about it, the article on Politico says
The White House did appear to have sway on Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, who initially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post denouncing Trump's emergency declaration. But prior to the vote Tillis announced he would vote against the resolution,
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Re: National Emergency Declared!

Postby Ivytalk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:59 am

Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.

I was just reading about it, the article on Politico says
The White House did appear to have sway on Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, who initially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post denouncing Trump's emergency declaration. But prior to the vote Tillis announced he would vote against the resolution,

I guess Tillis is worried about getting primaried by a Tar Heel Trumpbot. He’s up next year as well.
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