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More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

Why?

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

I was literally anyone but Clinton or Trump in the last election so anyone else would've been suitable than those two.

I'd be surprised if Trump ends up running for re-election. He's not a young guy, I'm not sure he ever really wanted to win in the first place other than to get the bragging rights that he could do it. Getting tagged with a re-election loss would be something I see him trying to avoid doing.

If Trump doesn't run then Pence pretty much automatically becomes a candidate too.

GannonFan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

I was literally anyone but Clinton or Trump in the last election so anyone else would've been suitable than those two.

I'd be surprised if Trump ends up running for re-election. He's not a young guy, I'm not sure he ever really wanted to win in the first place other than to get the bragging rights that he could do it. Getting tagged with a re-election loss would be something I see him trying to avoid doing.

If Trump doesn't run then Pence pretty much automatically becomes a candidate too.

Pence is much more likable than Trump. Of course he'd have to ask Mother first.

There would have to be an amazing choice for me to vote R or D again.

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

Did you know his dad was a mailman?

mainejeff wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
I was literally anyone but Clinton or Trump in the last election so anyone else would've been suitable than those two.

I'd be surprised if Trump ends up running for re-election. He's not a young guy, I'm not sure he ever really wanted to win in the first place other than to get the bragging rights that he could do it. Getting tagged with a re-election loss would be something I see him trying to avoid doing.

If Trump doesn't run then Pence pretty much automatically becomes a candidate too.

Pence is much more likable than Trump. Of course he'd have to ask Mother first.

#NikkiHaley

Rand Paul ?

GannonFan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

I was literally anyone but Clinton or Trump in the last election so anyone else would've been suitable than those two.

I'd be surprised if Trump ends up running for re-election. He's not a young guy, I'm not sure he ever really wanted to win in the first place other than to get the bragging rights that he could do it. Getting tagged with a re-election loss would be something I see him trying to avoid doing.

If Trump doesn't run then Pence pretty much automatically becomes a candidate too.

I think you nailed it.

More importantly, he also (even though I think the Dems win anyway) has to hope that a Republican is President when he finally gets his due for all of his misconduct so that he and his family can get pardons.

Skjellyfetti wrote:More and more likely that someone hops in to challenge Trump.

I would have voted for Kasich in 2016. He'd be a very good option. Don't think he'd win, but someone needs to challenge Trump to save face for the party.

Kasich would be good for a lib like you, to the rest of us he is a douche.


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Enough with the Rand Paul stuff....guy is a non-starter.

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

YES! I'd campaign for her.

And I can't tell you how many democrats/leftist tell me that if she were to run, they'd either vote for her or have to seriously debate between R and D. She's got a lot of appeal in the South, she's a woman, child of immigrants, she's appealing to Democrats and she's not a bible-thumper.

Ibanez wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

YES! I'd campaign for her.

And I can't tell you how many democrats/leftist tell me that if she were to run, they'd either vote for her or have to seriously debate between R and D. She's got a lot of appeal in the South, she's a woman, child of immigrants, she's appealing to Democrats and she's not a bible-thumper.

Her appeal to Democrats will end the day she throws her hat in the race as a Republican. Her transformation into the devil will occur with relativistic velocity

CID1990 wrote:

Ibanez wrote: YES! I'd campaign for her.

And I can't tell you how many democrats/leftist tell me that if she were to run, they'd either vote for her or have to seriously debate between R and D. She's got a lot of appeal in the South, she's a woman, child of immigrants, she's appealing to Democrats and she's not a bible-thumper.

Her appeal to Democrats will end the day she throws her hat in the race as a Republican. Her transformation into the devil will occur with relativistic velocity

CID1990 wrote:

Ibanez wrote: YES! I'd campaign for her.

And I can't tell you how many democrats/leftist tell me that if she were to run, they'd either vote for her or have to seriously debate between R and D. She's got a lot of appeal in the South, she's a woman, child of immigrants, she's appealing to Democrats and she's not a bible-thumper.

Her appeal to Democrats will end the day she throws her hat in the race as a Republican. Her transformation into the devil will occur with relativistic velocity

She never was appealing. Then her time as Trump's lackey at the UN working to undermine the US sealed it.

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

I hope some Republican gets in the race and protests this if the GOP decides to it.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

God bless those South Carolina Deplorables!

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:#NikkiHaley

Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

Well, fixing the primaries by controlling the political party worked out so well for Clinton in 2016, why wouldn't the GOP try the same thing for their party in 2020? What could go wrong??

GannonFan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

Well, fixing the primaries by controlling the political party worked out so well for Clinton in 2016, why wouldn't the GOP try the same thing for their party in 2020? What could go wrong??

You can't fix stupid!

mainejeff wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Seems like she'd be a pretty serious threat to Trump.

Probably why SC Republicans are going ahead and looking at going ahead and declaring Trump the winner this Summer.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/19/politics ... index.html

God bless those South Carolina Deplorables!

You do realize they'd essentially be doing what the DNC did in 2016 -just more open about it.

Ibanez wrote:

mainejeff wrote:
God bless those South Carolina Deplorables!

You do realize they'd essentially be doing what the DNC did in 2016 -just more open about it.

Sure...yeah...whatever.

As long as they keep Trump as the GOP nominee in 2020!

mainejeff wrote:

Ibanez wrote: You do realize they'd essentially be doing what the DNC did in 2016 -just more open about it.

Sure...yeah...whatever.

As long as they keep Trump as the GOP nominee in 2020!

You're just blissfully ignorant to the facts.

Ibanez wrote:

mainejeff wrote:
Sure...yeah...whatever.

As long as they keep Trump as the GOP nominee in 2020!

You're just blissfully ignorant to the facts.

The Democrats complicitness in 2016 that resulted in us having Trump as President is astounding. The lionization of the Clintons during that coronation and the steamrolling of the democratic process to get there, along with the Clintons likely being just as dirty and corrupt as Trump, were the perfect storm that needed to happen to have someone like Trump slip through and win the election. As kooky as Bernie was/is he'd have still won that election just because he would've been the only non-criminal on the ballot. As long as Trump runs again in 2020, his election defeat is almost a sure thing because the Dems will not short circuit the process this time and a legitimate candidate will emerge from that process who will be an easy-to-vote-for compared to Trump. Should've done that in 2016 and saved all of us the trouble.