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The Republican Party is totally corrupt at this point. It's in the process of committing long term suicide.
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Because it is an unnecessary expense for someone to get just 5-10%, and I am being generous with that.Skjellyfetti wrote:why?Ivytalk wrote:Weld, Walsh, Sanford, etc. can go pound sand.
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Reek, you misread my post. I was being sarcastic. Read it again.Skjellyfetti wrote:why?Ivytalk wrote:Weld, Walsh, Sanford, etc. can go pound sand.
If there is no announced opposition to an incumbent President, it might make sense to cancel a primary in his/her party to save time and money. If there is, such party should allow the primary to go forward. Who knows? There may be a Pete McCloskey or a Pat Buchanan lurking in there somewhere.
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They would likely get more than that in some States; especially States that allow residents to vote in either primary regardless of Party registration. He's been consistently under water Job Approval wise among Independents.css75 wrote:Because it is an unnecessary expense for someone to get just 5-10%, and I am being generous with that.Skjellyfetti wrote:
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The State Republican Party people aren't doing this because of finances. It's not the first time it's been done. Both Parties have done it. But it's not being done to save money. Wasn't the reason when it's been done in the past either.
I think that this time the Republicans are particularly concerned. They're not concerned about him losing primaries. It's evident that people like Weld and Walsh are going to really go after Trump. They're worried about their input costing Trump votes in the general election. They know they've got a guy that is President by virtue of winning a handful of key States by very narrow margins and he can't afford to lose even marginal percentages
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JohnStOnge wrote:They would likely get more than that in some States; especially States that allow residents to vote in either primary regardless of Party registration. He's been consistently under water Job Approval wise among Independents.css75 wrote:
Because it is an unnecessary expense for someone to get just 5-10%, and I am being generous with that.
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The State Republican Party people aren't doing this because of finances. It's not the first time it's been done. Both Parties have done it. But it's not being done to save money. Wasn't the reason when it's been done in the past either.
I think that this time the Republicans are particularly concerned. They're not concerned about him losing primaries. It's evident that people like Weld and Walsh are going to really go after Trump. They're worried about their input costing Trump votes in the general election. They know they've got a guy that is President by virtue of winning a handful of key States by very narrow margins and he can't afford to lose even marginal percentages
You mean like every president since Reagan?
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No. H. W. Bush won by an overwhelming margin (426 electoral votes). Clinton won by overwhelming margins both times. Obama won by overwhelming margins both times. None of those elections were like it was with Trump.AZGrizFan wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
They would likely get more than that in some States; especially States that allow residents to vote in either primary regardless of Party registration. He's been consistently under water Job Approval wise among Independents.
The State Republican Party people aren't doing this because of finances. It's not the first time it's been done. Both Parties have done it. But it's not being done to save money. Wasn't the reason when it's been done in the past either.
I think that this time the Republicans are particularly concerned. They're not concerned about him losing primaries. It's evident that people like Weld and Walsh are going to really go after Trump. They're worried about their input costing Trump votes in the general election. They know they've got a guy that is President by virtue of winning a handful of key States by very narrow margins and he can't afford to lose even marginal percentages
You mean like every president since Reagan?
In none of those cases could you say "The winner won four States by less than one percentage point and if those three States had gone the other way the other candidate would've won."
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Trump won more states than Obama.
Hildabeast had 5 states (of the few that she won) that were < 5% from flipping red.
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
Hildabeast had 5 states (of the few that she won) that were < 5% from flipping red.
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
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Clinton never won with 50%+ of the vote, he was under 50% both times, even against Dole of all people. I know how being under 50% is anathema to you.JohnStOnge wrote:No. H. W. Bush won by an overwhelming margin (426 electoral votes). Clinton won by overwhelming margins both times. Obama won by overwhelming margins both times. None of those elections were like it was with Trump.AZGrizFan wrote:
You mean like every president since Reagan?
In none of those cases could you say "The winner won four States by less than one percentage point and if those three States had gone the other way the other candidate would've won."
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And, if you magically subtract Trump's biggest EC states (FL and TX), Hillary wins the EC quite comfortably. Does it mean anything? No.AZGrizFan wrote:
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
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In your scenario neither wins the EC dum dum.Skjellyfetti wrote:And, if you magically subtract Trump's biggest EC states (FL and TX), Hillary wins the EC quite comfortably. Does it mean anything? No.AZGrizFan wrote:
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
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* dumb dumb89Hen wrote:In your scenario neither wins the EC dum dum.Skjellyfetti wrote:
And, if you magically subtract Trump's biggest EC states (FL and TX), Hillary wins the EC quite comfortably. Does it mean anything? No.
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You're right. But neither does any of Johns incessant blathering on and on about the election. It is what it is. He's the president, and likely will be for another six years. Hell, he'll probably not win the popular vote AGAIN in 2020, given the concentration of donks in NY and CA.Skjellyfetti wrote:And, if you magically subtract Trump's biggest EC states (FL and TX), Hillary wins the EC quite comfortably. Does it mean anything? No.AZGrizFan wrote:
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
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Yes, because the EC is what decides things.Skjellyfetti wrote:And, if you magically subtract Trump's biggest EC states (FL and TX), Hillary wins the EC quite comfortably. Does it mean anything? No.AZGrizFan wrote:
Hildabeast won NY and CA by 5mm votes. Lost the rest of the country by 3.5 million.
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Yes because there was a significant third Party candidate both times. But it was not a situation in which very small margins one way or another made a difference.GannonFan wrote:Clinton never won with 50%+ of the vote, he was under 50% both times, even against Dole of all people. I know how being under 50% is anathema to you.JohnStOnge wrote:
No. H. W. Bush won by an overwhelming margin (426 electoral votes). Clinton won by overwhelming margins both times. Obama won by overwhelming margins both times. None of those elections were like it was with Trump.
In none of those cases could you say "The winner won four States by less than one percentage point and if those three States had gone the other way the other candidate would've won."
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Note that I said three key States went Trump by <1%. 1% is less than 5%.AZGrizFan wrote:Trump won more states than Obama.
Hildabeast had 5 states (of the few that she won) that were < 5% from flipping red.
But the point is that it was a close election. He lost the popular vote and his electoral college win was narrow in historical terms. Trump cannot afford to lose much and still win.
This is what I'm talking about using Clinton's 1992 win over GW Bush as an example:
Clinton won only one State, Georgia, by less than 1% over Bush (43.5% to 42.9%). And if Georgia had gone the other way Clinton would still have won the election easily.
Trump won Michigan by 0.2%. He won Pennsylvania by 0.7%. He won Wisconsin by 0.8%. And, while it's not in the <1% club, he won Florida by 1.2%. And he won Florida while getting a lower overall percentage of the vote than Romney did. It's just that enough people voted third Party this time to create a situation in which he could win with that.
He won by the skin of his teeth. He can't lose much and win.
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If there’s not a meaningful 3rd party candidate stealing votes from him you may see the popular vote be a lot closer this time, and some of those states won’t be as close as they were in ‘16. Every single person I know who voted 3rd party (which is almost everyone I know that’s not a hardcore donk) is voting Trump this time because of the kooks being put forward by the communist party.JohnStOnge wrote:Note that I said three key States went Trump by <1%. 1% is less than 5%.AZGrizFan wrote:Trump won more states than Obama.
Hildabeast had 5 states (of the few that she won) that were < 5% from flipping red.
But the point is that it was a close election. He lost the popular vote and his electoral college win was narrow in historical terms. Trump cannot afford to lose much and still win.
This is what I'm talking about using Clinton's 1992 win over GW Bush as an example:
Clinton won only one State, Georgia, by less than 1% over Bush (43.5% to 42.9%). And if Georgia had gone the other way Clinton would still have won the election easily.
Trump won Michigan by 0.2%. He won Pennsylvania by 0.7%. He won Wisconsin by 0.8%. And, while it's not in the <1% club, he won Florida by 1.2%. And he won Florida while getting a lower overall percentage of the vote than Romney did. It's just that enough people voted third Party this time to create a situation in which he could win with that.
He won by the skin of his teeth. He can't lose much and win.
course, that all depends on whether or not we get the desired (from the left and JSO) recession prior to November of ‘20. If that happens, all bets are off.
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Yeah! You guys show them commies and vote for Trump THIS time around!AZGrizFan wrote:If there’s not a meaningful 3rd party candidate stealing votes from him you may see the popular vote be a lot closer this time, and some of those states won’t be as close as they were in ‘16. Every single person I know who voted 3rd party (which is almost everyone I know that’s not a hardcore donk) is voting Trump this time because of the kooks being put forward by the communist party.JohnStOnge wrote:
Note that I said three key States went Trump by <1%. 1% is less than 5%.
But the point is that it was a close election. He lost the popular vote and his electoral college win was narrow in historical terms. Trump cannot afford to lose much and still win.
This is what I'm talking about using Clinton's 1992 win over GW Bush as an example:
Clinton won only one State, Georgia, by less than 1% over Bush (43.5% to 42.9%). And if Georgia had gone the other way Clinton would still have won the election easily.
Trump won Michigan by 0.2%. He won Pennsylvania by 0.7%. He won Wisconsin by 0.8%. And, while it's not in the <1% club, he won Florida by 1.2%. And he won Florida while getting a lower overall percentage of the vote than Romney did. It's just that enough people voted third Party this time to create a situation in which he could win with that.
He won by the skin of his teeth. He can't lose much and win.
course, that all depends on whether or not we get the desired (from the left and JSO) recession prior to November of ‘20. If that happens, all bets are off.
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I'd think it's more cronyism than anything else. But it does remind me of this song...mainejeff2 wrote:It's laughable that some on here refer to the Democratic Party as "Communist". That would be totally the Republican Party!
Yes....Republicans cancelling primaries so that challengers to Dictator Trump have no chance to beat him for the Republican nomination. Not only that but rigging the system so that businesses, orgs and individuals that line the pockets of Republican politicians are rewarded with political favors and financial gain.
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Hold on, I'm confused. Are Republicans Commies or Nazis?mainejeff2 wrote:It's laughable that some on here refer to the Democratic Party as "Communist". That would be totally the Republican Party!
Yes....Republicans cancelling primaries so that challengers to Dictator Trump have no chance to beat him for the Republican nomination. Not only that but rigging the system so that businesses, orgs and individuals that line the pockets of Republican politicians are rewarded with political favors and financial gain.
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They’re feudalistic communazis...UNI88 wrote:Hold on, I'm confused. Are Republicans Commies or Nazis?mainejeff2 wrote:It's laughable that some on here refer to the Democratic Party as "Communist". That would be totally the Republican Party!
Yes....Republicans cancelling primaries so that challengers to Dictator Trump have no chance to beat him for the Republican nomination. Not only that but rigging the system so that businesses, orgs and individuals that line the pockets of Republican politicians are rewarded with political favors and financial gain.
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Hey, when people don't have a historical understanding of what any these terms even mean, then of course the GOP can be "feudalistic communazis".kalm wrote:They’re feudalistic communazis...UNI88 wrote:Hold on, I'm confused. Are Republicans Commies or Nazis?
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OK...how about neo-feudalistic reverse mercantilists?GannonFan wrote:Hey, when people don't have a historical understanding of what any these terms even mean, then of course the GOP can be "feudalistic communazis".kalm wrote:
They’re feudalistic communazis...
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I WILL vote for him this time around. I'd love NOT to, but I have to, and it's because the Dems have gone full fucking retard with their slate of candidates and their wacko positions:kalm wrote:Yeah! You guys show them commies and vote for Trump THIS time around!AZGrizFan wrote:
If there’s not a meaningful 3rd party candidate stealing votes from him you may see the popular vote be a lot closer this time, and some of those states won’t be as close as they were in ‘16. Every single person I know who voted 3rd party (which is almost everyone I know that’s not a hardcore donk) is voting Trump this time because of the kooks being put forward by the communist party.
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