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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
So, ignorant AND lazy. Gotcha. :coffee: :coffee: :suspicious:
This EXACTLY what I thought your response would be. :nod:

Thank you. :thumb:
You’re welcome. Glad I wasn’t breaking news to you. :lol:

Let me put it this way: You’d have to be living under a rock (or in Spokompton, apparently) to NOT know that every one of those things I listed has been stated, and/or repeated by multiple dem presidential candidates over the past 18 months. Every single one.

I know that. You know that. I know you know that. You’re just being difficult or lazy with the sudden need for MORE proof that they’re all batshit crazy socialists.
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: :lol: You're just blissfully ignorant to the facts.
The Democrats complicitness in 2016 that resulted in us having Trump as President is astounding. The lionization of the Clintons during that coronation and the steamrolling of the democratic process to get there, along with the Clintons likely being just as dirty and corrupt as Trump, were the perfect storm that needed to happen to have someone like Trump slip through and win the election. As kooky as Bernie was/is he'd have still won that election just because he would've been the only non-criminal on the ballot. As long as Trump runs again in 2020, his election defeat is almost a sure thing because the Dems will not short circuit the process this time and a legitimate candidate will emerge from that process who will be an easy-to-vote-for compared to Trump. Should've done that in 2016 and saved all of us the trouble. :coffee:
Isn't there some statute to limitations that he needs to wait out in office?
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I WILL vote for him this time around. I'd love NOT to, but I have to, and it's because the Dems have gone full fucking retard with their slate of candidates and their wacko positions:

Blatant embracing of full-on socialism
Identity politics EVERYWHERE
EVERYTHING is racist if you deign to disagree
Open borders/banning ICE
Gun confiscation/mandatory buybacks
Reparations for African Americans
Reparations for LGBQT
Cancelling all student debt
free everything for illegals
voting rights for illegals
Hatred of the flag and all it represents
post-birth abortion ok but godforfuckingbid you break an eagle's egg (5 years in prison)
sanctuary cities (where they openly shit in the streets)
labeling NRA as a terrorist organization (while ignoring organizations that systematically kill millions)
banning straws & 32 oz sodas because they know what's best for you
universal healthcare
zero fossil fuel emissions requirement (with zero understanding of how battery power is generated)
Supporting green new deal to bankrupt the country
Embracing ANTIFA

I'll take crazy Donald Trump and his dumb tweets over all this every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
You keep posting these lists like they're accurate, meaningful, and that 1/10th of the items have a snowballs chance of getting implemented. (pst...it's a primary where the candidates pander to the base...think Obama bringing troops home from Afghanistan, installing single payer, and taking it to those bastards on Wall Street :lol: )

Look at all those Dem candidates embracing ANTIFA and hating on the flag! :hide:

Quit being such a hack. You're better than this. :ohno:
Oh really? Obama in 2008:
„The Afghan government needs to do more. But we have to understand that the situation is precarious and urgent here in Afghanistan. And I believe this has to be our central focus, the central front, on our battle against terrorism," Obama said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"I think one of the biggest mistakes we've made strategically after 9/11 was to fail to finish the job here, focus our attention here. We got distracted by Iraq," he said.

Obama said troop levels must increase in Afghanistan.

"For at least a year now, I have called for two additional brigades, perhaps three," he told CBS. "I think it's very important that we unify command more effectively to coordinate our military activities. But military alone is not going to be enough."....“
https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/20 ... ghanistan/

Obama promised single payer during the 2008 donk primary or the general? Got a link for that? Because all I can find is he called for it in 03‘ but didn‘t advocate it during the donk primary..

The current leading donks are running WAY left of where Obama ran in the 2008 donk primary. Heck, he was even against gay marriage in 2008..

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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
This EXACTLY what I thought your response would be. :nod:

Thank you. :thumb:
You’re welcome. Glad I wasn’t breaking news to you. :lol:

Let me put it this way: You’d have to be living under a rock (or in Spokompton, apparently) to NOT know that every one of those things I listed has been stated, and/or repeated by multiple dem presidential candidates over the past 18 months. Every single one.

I know that. You know that. I know you know that. You’re just being difficult or lazy with the sudden need for MORE proof that they’re all batshit crazy socialists.
Jesus H. Christ on a hay bale, you’re fucking thick. :lol:

Again...feel free to provide direct quotes rather than your interpretation or as CID likes to say...STFU.

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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
You’re welcome. Glad I wasn’t breaking news to you. :lol:

Let me put it this way: You’d have to be living under a rock (or in Spokompton, apparently) to NOT know that every one of those things I listed has been stated, and/or repeated by multiple dem presidential candidates over the past 18 months. Every single one.

I know that. You know that. I know you know that. You’re just being difficult or lazy with the sudden need for MORE proof that they’re all batshit crazy socialists.
Jesus H. Christ on a hay bale, you’re fucking thick. :lol:

Again...feel free to provide direct quotes rather than your interpretation or as CID likes to say...STFU.

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89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Jesus H. Christ on a hay bale, you’re fucking thick. :lol:

Again...feel free to provide direct quotes rather than your interpretation or as CID likes to say...STFU.

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89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

:thumb:
So are you acknowledging through this post that the REST of the list is accurate? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: You're picking out four things out of a list of 20?
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mainejeff2 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
What is FAKE Fox News reporting?
Direct quotes, that's what they're reporting. :thumb:
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Here's a sample: O'Rourke, De Blaiso, Gillibrand and Booker ALL supporting a mandatory buyback of "assault" weapons (whatever THAT means). Supporting Red Flag laws that potentially STRIP YOU OF A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT without ANY due process....
O'Rourke: “I see more clearly than I ever have — that not only do we need universal background checks; not only do we need red flag laws, that would stop somebody when they pose a danger to themselves or someone else; not only do we need to end the sale of assault weapons and weapons of war, that were designed for the battlefield and have no place in our communities,” he said. “We must as a country buy those weapons, take them off the streets altogether.”
O’Rourke, who has previously said he was “open” to such a measure but has stopped short of explicitly endorsing it, joins fellow Democratic candidates New York Mayor Bill De Blasio and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) in calling for a mandatory federal buyback program. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) has also indicated support for the measure.
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Newsweek article which states nearly EVERY declared dem candidate supports the Green New Deal:

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-202 ... al-1325775

Democratic 2020 contenders appear to have taken note of the resolution's widespread appeal. Thus far, numerous Democrats have declared their intention to run for the presidency in 2020, including Senator Cory Booker from New Jersey, Mayor Pete Buttigieg from South Bend, Indiana, former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro, former Representative John Delaney from Maryland, Representative Tulsi Gabbard from Hawaii, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand from New York, Senator Kamala Harris from California, Senator Elizabeth Warren from Massachusetts and as of today, Senator Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota. With the exception of Delaney, all those candidates have publicly backed the Green New Deal. Delaney has in the past supported a "carbon tax," again voicing his backing for such a move in a recent tweet. "We need something big done ASAP," he wrote.
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Where they stand on reparations (hint: vast majority support them! Shocker, I know):
Sen. Cory Booker: Booker introduced a Senate companion version of a House bill by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas.) that would establish a commission to study the impact of slavery and continuing discrimination against black Americans, and make recommendations on reparation proposals for descendants of slaves. Former Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) was first to introduce legislation in 1989;
Sen. Kamala Harris: Harris said in an interview on "The Breakfast Club" in February that she supports government reparations for black Americans. Harris told NPR's "Morning Edition" last month that the term reparations "means different things to different people," and that allocating funds for mental health treatment would be one form of reparations.
Sen. Bernie Sanders: In 2016, Sanders was dismissive of reparations, saying, "First of all, its likelihood of getting through Congress is nil. Second of all, I think it would be very divisive."
During an appearance last month on "The View," Sanders doubled down on his position: "I think that right now, our job is to address the crises facing the American people and our communities, and I think there are better ways to do that than just writing out a check."
However, on April 5, Sanders told Rev. Al Sharpton that, if elected, he would support Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee's bill, setting up a commission to study reparations. "If the House and Senate pass that bill of course I would sign it ... There needs to be a study," Sanders said the National Action Network conference.
Julián Castro: The former San Antonio mayor and housing secretary under President Obama has arguably been the most vocal candidate on this issue. Castro said he would create a commission to study reparations and determine the best policy proposal.
Castro notably took shot at Sanders by name in an interview last month on CNN, saying: "It’s interesting to me that when it comes to 'Medicare for All,' health care, you know, the response there has been, 'We need to write a big check.' That when it comes to tuition-free or debt-free college, the answer has been that we need to write a big check."
Sen. Amy Klobuchar: In an interview on NBC’s 'Meet the Press' last month, Klobuchar said: "I believe we have to invest in those communities that have been so hurt by racism. It doesn't have to be a direct pay for each person, but what we can do is invest in those communities. Acknowledge what’s happened. ... Making sure we have that shared dream of opportunity for all Americans."
Sen. Elizabeth Warren: She tweeted in support of Jackson Lee's bill last month, saying: "Slavery is a stain on America & we need to address it head on. I believe it’s time to start a national, full-blown conversation about reparations. I support the bill in the House to support a congressional panel of experts so that our nation can do what’s right & begin to heal."
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand: She said at Al Sharpton's National Action Network's annual convention last week that she supports legislation to study reparations. "This is a conversation that is long overdue," she said.
Beto O'Rourke: Like Sanders, O’Rourke has been less enthusiastic about reparations, but said he supports Jackson Lee's bill.
Marianne Williamson: The best-selling author is the only candidate, despite her long-shot bid, to present a plan with specifics. She proposed $100 billion in reparations or $10 billion a year to be distributed over 10 years for economic and educational projects , Williamson told CNN in January.
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Pete Buttplug endorsing post birth abortion:

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I gotta go back to work but that's just the tip of the iceberg of what's out there regarding these issues.

Educate yourself, klammy. I'm tired of doing your legwork for you.
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A couple more, because they're biggies:

Tulsi Gabbard on the "Open Borders" issue:

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And an article (try not to shoot the messenger/source) on stated positions regarding the border and border security:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/03/ob ... n-borders/
Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) announced on Tuesday that he would “virtually eliminate immigration detention” through an executive order on his first day in office if elected. Julian Castro said in last week’s debate that he would decriminalize illegal border crossings, a policy that other candidates in the race flocked to support.

Other prominent Democrats have called for a more cautious approach in crafting immigration policy, but they are increasingly few and far between. Jeh Johnson, who served as secretary of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama’s second term, criticized the idea to decriminalize illegally crossing the border.
“That is tantamount to declaring publicly that we have open borders,” Johnson told the Washington Post, going on to warn that decriminalization would cause migration numbers to skyrocket. “That is unworkable, unwise and does not have the support of a majority of American people or the Congress, and if we had such a policy, instead of 100,000 apprehensions a month, it will be multiples of that.”
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/02/politics ... index.html
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
"I don't think ICE today is working as intended," Gillibrand said Thursday night on CNN's "Cuomo PrimeTime." "I believe that it has become a deportation force, and I think you should separate the criminal justice from the immigration issues."
Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
In a Facebook post on Saturday, Warren wrote, "The President's deeply immoral actions have made it obvious that we need to rebuild our immigration system from top to bottom, starting by replacing ICE with something that reflects our values," a line that mirrored her statements in a speech at a protest in Boston.
House members
Mark Pocan of Wisconsin
"From conducting raids at garden centers, and meatpacking plants, to breaking up families at churches and schools, ICE is tearing apart families and ripping the moral fabric of our nation," he said in a statement.
Pramila Jayapal of Washington
"We need to set up a commission that looks at the alternatives to ICE and really starts to understand how do we have these functions in a way that is accountable, transparent and humane," Jayapal told The Hill.
Earl Blumenauer of Oregon
"We should be prioritizing the protection of families and our borders in a humane and thoughtful way. People should be treated with compassion and respect. ICE is simply not doing that," Blumenauer said in a statement. "Trump and his administration have made the agency so toxic that it's time to abolish ICE, and start over."
Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
"We need to start a fresh conversation. If there are elements that work, we can maintain and strengthen those aspects. Otherwise, we need to thoroughly reevaluate and re-think immigration enforcement," he said in a post to his website.
Rep. Nydia Velázquez of New York
"While eliminating ICE would be an important step, it alone is not enough to halt Donald Trump's deportation machine," she said in a statement. "This Administration is attacking immigrants on a multitude of fronts and we must resist on all of them. That includes reuniting and releasing families separated at the border, ending family detention and passing protections for Dreamers and TPS recipients."
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Long article on wiping out student debt: A number of dem candidates are all or mostly for eliminating student debt:

http://www.mtv.com/news/3134045/2020-pr ... ebt-plans/
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Dem controlled house votes to allow illegals to vote:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... nt-voting/
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Dems and their support of Green New Deal, their fight against fossil fuels and their zero fossil fuel emissions requirement which many candidates support:

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-step-p ... 00248.html
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
89 did 90% of the work for you FFS. The fact you're too lazy to push "play" and LISTEN is something I can't help you with. And like I said earlier, every single one of those is a verified position by (typically) multiple presidential candidates on the left. Course, you won't hear about them on CNN or MSNBC or ABC or CBS or NBC, so there's probably a good chance you haven't heard the clips.
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

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Nah, kalmia is from the Palouse, the don't do pretty up there. Antigua's too pretty for those hardened souls, hence why he'd be against any candidate that got all chummy-chummy with Antigua. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Show me where any candidate...

Said they hated the flag
Suggested giving everything for free to illegals
Embraced Antigua
Proposed complete state control of the means of production

Or...

Accept your loss and STFU.

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Ibanez wrote:
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I've been to Antigua. What's wrong with Antigua? It's beautiful and I'd go back in a heartbeat.
The Beach Boys left it out of there song...


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Ibanez wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
I've been to Antigua. What's wrong with Antigua? It's beautiful and I'd go back in a heartbeat.
The Beach Boys left it out of there song...


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Maybe Kokomo was their code word for Antigua since they had trouble rhyming lyrics with the latter? :coffee:
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