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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote: At least he is a Republican with true Republican principles like fiscal conservatism. There’s not a single Republican in Congress or the Whitehouse that gives two shits.


But Republicanism is out of vogue. I’m not sure what this “conservatism” is about. It’s not about small government and liberty.


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Its about butthurt over a black President, I'm not sure they'll ever get over it

That is a dumb comment, even from you. The true racists are the ones who continually mention racism.


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tribe_pride wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I think the electoral landscape in terms of primaries and caucuses has shifted markedly since 1972, but are there parallels between the Nixon GOP convention of 1972 and the expected Trump convention of 2020? IIRC, in 1972, only one delegate vote (from New Mexico, of all places) went to a candidate other than Nixon.
You get that it is not unusual for either a Dem or Republican incumbent to get all or all but 1-20 votes, rights? This is not a D or an R thing. It's an incumbent thing at least in the modern era.
What you say accurately describes the GOP convention of 2004 (George W. Bush) and the Democratic Conventions of 1996 (Clinton) and 2012 (Obama). But non-incumbent candidates who fought through the primaries received convention votes in incumbent years (Pat Buchanan in ‘92; Ted Kennedy in ‘80). What struck me about ‘72, and I still remember it, was the lusty boos that erupted when New Mexico had to award one vote to Pete McCloskey under its state law, and the convention didn’t seat that delegate. I can see a parallel for the GOP in 2020 under Trump, but it’s even worse now because of the cancellations of state primaries.
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Ivytalk wrote:
tribe_pride wrote:
You get that it is not unusual for either a Dem or Republican incumbent to get all or all but 1-20 votes, rights? This is not a D or an R thing. It's an incumbent thing at least in the modern era.
What you say accurately describes the GOP convention of 2004 (George W. Bush) and the Democratic Conventions of 1996 (Clinton) and 2012 (Obama). But non-incumbent candidates who fought through the primaries received convention votes in incumbent years (Pat Buchanan in ‘92; Ted Kennedy in ‘80). What struck me about ‘72, and I still remember it, was the lusty boos that erupted when New Mexico had to award one vote to Pete McCloskey under its state law, and the convention didn’t seat that delegate. I can see a parallel for the GOP in 2020 under Trump, but it’s even worse now because of the cancellations of state primaries.
Let's look at since 1948 (Truman was in a weird spot so that is why stopping there):
1948 - D - Truman got 75% but had inherited the Presidency
1952 - No Incumbent
1956 - R - Eisenhower all but maybe 1 vote
1960 - No Incumbent
1964 - D - LBJ all votes
1968 - No Incumbent
1972 - R - Nixon all but 1 vote
1976 - R - Ford/Reagan split but like Truman Ford inherited the Presidency
1980 - D - Carter had Ted challenge
1984 - R - Reagan - Unanimous
1988 - No Incumbent
1992 - R- Bush all but 18 votes
1996 - D - Clinton all but 12 votes
2000 - No Incumbent
2004 - R - Bush all but 1 vote
2008 - No Incumbent
2012 - D - Obama all votes
2016 - No Incumbent

With the exception of inherited Presidencies, there was only one time (Carter administration) where there has been a Primary challenge to the President since the 1950s - getting 20 or fewer delegates is not a real challenge.

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93henfan wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:59 pm
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I was literally anyone but Clinton or Trump in the last election so anyone else would've been suitable than those two.

I'd be surprised if Trump ends up running for re-election. He's not a young guy, I'm not sure he ever really wanted to win in the first place other than to get the bragging rights that he could do it. Getting tagged with a re-election loss would be something I see him trying to avoid doing.

If Trump doesn't run then Pence pretty much automatically becomes a candidate too.
I think you nailed it.

More importantly, he also (even though I think the Dems win anyway) has to hope that a Republican is President when he finally gets his due for all of his misconduct so that he and his family can get pardons.
Came across this looking for something else.

Nope. Trump is going to run.

Don’t think the donks win.

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What’s the under on the protest Never-Trumper vote for Bill Weld tomorrow? I’m thinking he gets 3%.
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Wow, BDK digging way back for posts. How pathetic is that?

The Democrats win in November, I sadly believe. That's why I'm stacking ammo and guns deep this year and last. I just hope it's not Bloomberg. He's a serious gun grabber.
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GannonFan wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 am
Ibanez wrote: :lol: You're just blissfully ignorant to the facts.
The Democrats complicitness in 2016 that resulted in us having Trump as President is astounding. The lionization of the Clintons during that coronation and the steamrolling of the democratic process to get there, along with the Clintons likely being just as dirty and corrupt as Trump, were the perfect storm that needed to happen to have someone like Trump slip through and win the election. As kooky as Bernie was/is he'd have still won that election just because he would've been the only non-criminal on the ballot. As long as Trump runs again in 2020, his election defeat is almost a sure thing because the Dems will not short circuit the process this time and a legitimate candidate will emerge from that process who will be an easy-to-vote-for compared to Trump. Should've done that in 2016 and saved all of us the trouble. :coffee:
:lol: The short circuit is well underway...

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:16 am
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:59 pm


I think you nailed it.

More importantly, he also (even though I think the Dems win anyway) has to hope that a Republican is President when he finally gets his due for all of his misconduct so that he and his family can get pardons.
Came across this looking for something else.

Nope. Trump is going to run.

Don’t think the donks win.
You should join forces with that born-again Trump-lover, Jearf. :coffee:
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I won't be voting for Trump this time, but it never really mattered anyway in this deep blue state.

Trump gets a penalty from me for putting me out of work for a month and a half.

My vote goes Libertarian this time.
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Lincoln Chafee won't be a bad vote. :thumb:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
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Lincoln Chafee won't be a bad vote. :thumb:
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93henfan wrote:I won't be voting for Trump this time, but it never really mattered anyway in this deep blue state.

Trump gets a penalty from me for putting me out of work for a month and a half.

My vote goes Libertarian this time.
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CID1990 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:40 am
93henfan wrote:I won't be voting for Trump this time, but it never really mattered anyway in this deep blue state.

Trump gets a penalty from me for putting me out of work for a month and a half.

My vote goes Libertarian this time.
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93henfan wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:32 am
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:52 am
Lincoln Chafee won't be a bad vote. :thumb:
Only Republican Senator to vote against the war in Iraq. :thumb:
Doesn’t sound very libertarian on guns..
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 am
GannonFan wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 am


The Democrats complicitness in 2016 that resulted in us having Trump as President is astounding. The lionization of the Clintons during that coronation and the steamrolling of the democratic process to get there, along with the Clintons likely being just as dirty and corrupt as Trump, were the perfect storm that needed to happen to have someone like Trump slip through and win the election. As kooky as Bernie was/is he'd have still won that election just because he would've been the only non-criminal on the ballot. As long as Trump runs again in 2020, his election defeat is almost a sure thing because the Dems will not short circuit the process this time and a legitimate candidate will emerge from that process who will be an easy-to-vote-for compared to Trump. Should've done that in 2016 and saved all of us the trouble. :coffee:
:lol: The short circuit is well underway...
Yup, I never thought the Dems could screw this up more than they did in 2016, but apparently they are more than up for the challenge of exceeding that screwup. Trump's ability to play with their heads is shocking. Just amazing. :ohno:
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GannonFan wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:07 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 am

:lol: The short circuit is well underway...
Yup, I never thought the Dems could screw this up more than they did in 2016, but apparently they are more than up for the challenge of exceeding that screwup. Trump's ability to play with their heads is shocking. Just amazing. :ohno:
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GannonFan wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:07 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 am

:lol: The short circuit is well underway...
Yup, I never thought the Dems could screw this up more than they did in 2016, but apparently they are more than up for the challenge of exceeding that screwup. Trump's ability to play with their heads is shocking. Just amazing. :ohno:
It really is. Libtards are so emotional, gullible and short-sighted. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:52 am
Lincoln Chafee won't be a bad vote. :thumb:
Chafee has no shot at the LP nomination.

In other news, Weld got one delegate in Iowa! The bad news: due to Byzantine GOP convention rules, that delegate may never have the chance to vote for Weld at the convention.
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Its about butthurt over a black President, I'm not sure they'll ever get over it

That is a dumb comment, even from you. The true racists are the ones who continually mention racism.


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Some close this thread. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Piss off, Jearf.

Weld got almost 10% of the GOP primary vote in NH, and the Vermont Republican governor will vote for Weld in the March 3 GOP primary there. Weld may actually pick up a few more delegates in states that don’t cancel their GOP primaries at the behest of the Trumpkin party bosses. I’m no big fan of Weld, a political chameleon, but at least he has the stones to fight the good fight.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:55 pm
Piss off, Jearf.

Weld got almost 10% of the GOP primary vote in NH, and the Vermont Republican governor will vote for Weld in the March 3 GOP primary there. Weld may actually pick up a few more delegates in states that don’t cancel their GOP primaries at the behest of the Trumpkin party bosses. I’m no big fan of Weld, a political chameleon, but at least he has the stones to fight the good fight.
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mainejeff wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:13 pm
Ivytalk wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:55 pm
Piss off, Jearf.

Weld got almost 10% of the GOP primary vote in NH, and the Vermont Republican governor will vote for Weld in the March 3 GOP primary there. Weld may actually pick up a few more delegates in states that don’t cancel their GOP primaries at the behest of the Trumpkin party bosses. I’m no big fan of Weld, a political chameleon, but at least he has the stones to fight the good fight.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:29 pm
mainejeff wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:13 pm


Go choke on some caviar, Ivee.
Keep on cross-dressing as a MAGA acolyte, you dweeb. Nobody believes you, although it’s a cute effort to avoid your second Ban Hammer. :coffee:
No one knows acolytes like you do. :thumb:
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