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File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:21 pm
by Chizzang
"Mitch McConnell Admits He’s Against High Voter Turnout Because He Suspects People Will Vote for Democrats"

The game Republicans play to make voting more difficult to protect "the integrity of the system"
has been - and always will be - a distant second to just keeping people from voting in general

:lol:

https://www.gq.com/story/mcconnell-voter-turnout-bad

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:55 pm
by Baldy
Chizzang wrote:"Mitch McConnell Admits He’s Against High Voter Turnout Because He Suspects People Will Vote for Democrats"

The game Republicans play to make voting more difficult to protect "the integrity of the system"
has been - and always will be - a distant second to just keeping people from voting in general

:lol:

https://www.gq.com/story/mcconnell-voter-turnout-bad
GQ :lol:

Even CID jokes about it on here all the time.

The Federal bureaucracy is 80%+ Donk, so it's no surprise that the Donks in Congress want to give them the day off with pay. No wonder McConnell is mocking the idea. :rofl:

Elections just aren't Luke Darby thing. He needs to stick to subjects more in his wheelhouse like Cardi B, Lady GaGa, and the Spice Girls.

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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:51 pm
by CID1990
I watched the video (instead of taking the author's word for it)

I agree with McConnell. We have enough Hatch Act violations around the workplace in the Fed government as it is without paying us to go shill at the polls.

BTW Federal workers have a VERY HIGH voter turnout rate ... in spite of not getting the day off. Somehow we all manage to do our civic duty on work days because it really isn't that hard to take a few hours off. Just take 12 less coffee breaks or lay off Candy Crush for just one day and its easy.

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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:01 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:I watched the video (instead of taking the author's word for it)

I agree with McConnell. We have enough Hatch Act violations around the workplace in the Fed government as it is without paying us to go shill at the polls.

BTW Federal workers have a VERY HIGH voter turnout rate ... in spite of not getting the day off. Somehow we all manage to do our civic duty on work days because it really isn't that hard to take a few hours off. Just take 12 less coffee breaks or lay off Candy Crush for just one day and its easy.
I just liked the authors sassy tone
and balls for saying out loud what nobody will actually say out loud"

:lol:

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:49 am
by Baldy
Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I watched the video (instead of taking the author's word for it)

I agree with McConnell. We have enough Hatch Act violations around the workplace in the Fed government as it is without paying us to go shill at the polls.

BTW Federal workers have a VERY HIGH voter turnout rate ... in spite of not getting the day off. Somehow we all manage to do our civic duty on work days because it really isn't that hard to take a few hours off. Just take 12 less coffee breaks or lay off Candy Crush for just one day and its easy.
I just liked the authors sassy tone
and balls for saying out loud what nobody will actually say out loud"

:lol:
:suspicious:

When it comes to elections and voting, what he said out loud is the #1 subject that Leftists cry about.

He isn't exactly going out on a limb or breaking new ground here.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:00 am
by CID1990
Actually.. I’m not sold on the notion that if we had 100% voter turnout that it would benefit the Democrats in the long run.

Australia has compulsory voting and suddenly theyre shifting right.

Nothing like actual pie in the sky government in practice to wake people up. That’s why I wouldn’t be averse to about a decade of complete Dem control

Just long enough for them to start locking people up for offensive social media posts


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Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:"Mitch McConnell Admits He’s Against High Voter Turnout Because He Suspects People Will Vote for Democrats"

The game Republicans play to make voting more difficult to protect "the integrity of the system"
has been - and always will be - a distant second to just keeping people from voting in general

:lol:

https://www.gq.com/story/mcconnell-voter-turnout-bad
GQ :lol:

Even CID jokes about it on here all the time.

The Federal bureaucracy is 80%+ Donk, so it's no surprise that the Donks in Congress want to give them the day off with pay. No wonder McConnell is mocking the idea. :rofl:

Elections just aren't Luke Darby thing. He needs to stick to subjects more in his wheelhouse like Cardi B, Lady GaGa, and the Spice Girls.
I remember going through a GQ reading phase in my 20's. There were actually some pretty damned good articles and authors like PJ O'rourke. You must read a lot of Luke Darby, Baldy? :suspicious:

Question: If it became a federal holiday, wouldn't many private industries follow suit?

The irony of McConnell being against it is only matched by the irony of all those people voting establishment Dem so that the Corey Bookers and Chuck Shumers of the world can pretend they're actually liberal. :lol:

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:57 am
by CAA Flagship
CID1990 wrote:Actually.. I’m not sold on the notion that if we had 100% voter turnout that it would benefit the Democrats in the long run.

Australia has compulsory voting and suddenly theyre shifting right.

Nothing like actual pie in the sky government in practice to wake people up. That’s why I wouldn’t be averse to about a decade of complete Dem control

Just long enough for them to start locking people up for offensive social media posts


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Not sure. But I would be interested in knowing what would happen if all states split their EC votes based on percentage of election votes. That may flush out the hopeless D's in R states and the hopeless R's in D states.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:18 am
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
Question: If it became a federal holiday, wouldn't many private industries follow suit?
Most likely not - most private industries don't follow a lot of the federal holidays already, just the biggies like New Years, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. Anything else are floating holidays (unless a big enough manufacturing site where they tell people when shutdowns are and vacations get taken then).

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:23 am
by GannonFan
As for voting in general, let's face it, it shouldn't be hard to vote on Election Day if it's done well at the local level - make sure there are enough polling places, make sure there are enough machines, and that should be it. Even where I live it's interesting how things vary from county to county. I'm in Montgomery County (PA - Philly suburb) and generally you don't wait in any line - walk up, sign the book next to your name, vote, and that's it. Whole thing generally takes about 5 minutes, and the polling place is about 5 minutes away. No one's driving more than 5 or 10 minutes to a polling place. Some places in Chester County (county next door) has some local spots where you wait for an hour in line, sometimes more. Just depends on how it's handled locally in most cases.

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:35 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
Baldy wrote: GQ :lol:

Even CID jokes about it on here all the time.

The Federal bureaucracy is 80%+ Donk, so it's no surprise that the Donks in Congress want to give them the day off with pay. No wonder McConnell is mocking the idea. :rofl:

Elections just aren't Luke Darby thing. He needs to stick to subjects more in his wheelhouse like Cardi B, Lady GaGa, and the Spice Girls.
I remember going through a GQ reading phase in my 20's. There were actually some pretty damned good articles and authors like PJ O'rourke. You must read a lot of Luke Darby, Baldy? :suspicious:

Question: If it became a federal holiday, wouldn't many private industries follow suit?

The irony of McConnell being against it is only matched by the irony of all those people voting establishment Dem so that the Corey Bookers and Chuck Shumers of the world can pretend they're actually liberal. :lol:
I understand, and Rolling Stone used to be a publication about music. Lots of things change in 20+ years.

I've never heard of the guy until I saw that article, but looking at his bibliography shows that he likes him some Cardi B, GaGa, etc, and a pretty staunch proponent of boilerplate 'progressive' blather. In other words, he knows a lot about nothing.

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:43 am
by Chizzang
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
I remember going through a GQ reading phase in my 20's. There were actually some pretty damned good articles and authors like PJ O'rourke. You must read a lot of Luke Darby, Baldy? :suspicious:

Question: If it became a federal holiday, wouldn't many private industries follow suit?

The irony of McConnell being against it is only matched by the irony of all those people voting establishment Dem so that the Corey Bookers and Chuck Shumers of the world can pretend they're actually liberal. :lol:
I understand, and Rolling Stone used to be a publication about music. Lots of things change in 20+ years.

I've never heard of the guy until I saw that article, but looking at his bibliography shows that he likes him some Cardi B, GaGa, etc, and a pretty staunch proponent of boilerplate 'progressive' blather. In other words, he knows a lot about nothing.
Oh thank goodness we have you here to clear that up for us...
Never mind what the article actually said, that's irrelevant

:lol:

I think Trump stole Baldy's account password

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:56 am
by Grizalltheway
Not sure why Baldy is so triggered by this. He and others here have made it abundantly clear that universal suffrage is not ideal. :coffee:

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:00 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
I remember going through a GQ reading phase in my 20's. There were actually some pretty damned good articles and authors like PJ O'rourke. You must read a lot of Luke Darby, Baldy? :suspicious:

Question: If it became a federal holiday, wouldn't many private industries follow suit?

The irony of McConnell being against it is only matched by the irony of all those people voting establishment Dem so that the Corey Bookers and Chuck Shumers of the world can pretend they're actually liberal. :lol:
I understand, and Rolling Stone used to be a publication about music. Lots of things change in 20+ years.

I've never heard of the guy until I saw that article, but looking at his bibliography shows that he likes him some Cardi B, GaGa, etc, and a pretty staunch proponent of boilerplate 'progressive' blather. In other words, he knows a lot about nothing.
RS was reporting on politics from the start. Ever heard of some dude named Hunter S. Something or other? :lol:

Otherwise, I have to hand it to ya. You know more background on liberal writers and media than I could ever hope to. You are quite the coinnoisuer. :lol:

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:23 am
by Chizzang
Grizalltheway wrote:Not sure why Baldy is so triggered by this. He and others here have made it abundantly clear that universal suffrage is not ideal. :coffee:
Because some guy he doesn't know or respect is making entertaining and sarcastic observations about it...

When Ben Shapiro and Right Wing Pundits talk about it they get to use the clever guise that we're all better off with restricted access and then they tie it to the joys of the Electoral College...
Which allows them to lose elections and retain power

:lol:

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:56 am
by ∞∞∞
I say go further: let anyone vote in federal elections...be it legal aliens, felons, etc. Make it a true democratic representation of the People under our government's rule. And you're automatically registered in a national database once you qualify.

Age can be decided by the states as long as it doesn't exceed the Constitution.

Then make federal elections a week-long affair.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:45 pm
by 89Hen
∞∞∞ wrote:I say go further: let anyone vote in federal elections...be it legal aliens, felons, etc. Make it a true democratic representation of the People under our government's rule.
:? If you are not here legally, you are not under US rule.

BTW, I do agree that felons, once they've served their sentence, should be eligible. If you did the time, you did the time.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:57 pm
by Ibanez
∞∞∞ wrote:I say go further: let anyone vote in federal elections...be it legal aliens, felons, etc. Make it a true democratic representation of the People under our government's rule. And you're automatically registered in a national database once you qualify.

Age can be decided by the states as long as it doesn't exceed the Constitution.

Then make federal elections a week-long affair.
:shock: :shock: I like how the Brits have a short campaign season. Let's start there.


I agree with felons, if you've finished your sentence then you can vote.

I'm not sure how I feel about people non-citizens voting, like someone on a student visa.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:41 pm
by ∞∞∞
Ibanez wrote::shock: :shock: I like how the Brits have a short campaign season. Let's start there.

I agree with felons, if you've finished your sentence then you can vote.

I'm not sure how I feel about people non-citizens voting, like someone on a student visa.
I meant that we should give people an entire week to cast their ballot.

I can agree that non-resident aliens (like students) shouldn't be able to vote, but I think resident aliens working should have a voice in the government (and they did for most US history).

As for felons, I meant all felons - included incarcerated ones. And speaking of it, we should also work on making slavery unconstitutional. :coffee:

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:48 pm
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:I say go further: let anyone vote in federal elections...be it legal aliens, felons, etc. Make it a true democratic representation of the People under our government's rule.
:? If you are not here legally, you are not under US rule.

BTW, I do agree that felons, once they've served their sentence, should be eligible. If you did the time, you did the time.
I guess you're going to have to say what "rule" means to you.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:57 pm
by Winterborn
∞∞∞ wrote: I meant that we should give people an entire week to cast their ballot.

I can agree that non-resident aliens (like students) shouldn't be able to vote, but I think resident aliens working should be able to have a voice in the government (and they did for most US history).

As for felons, I meant all felons - included incarcerated ones. And speaking of felons, we should also work on making slavery unconstitutional. :coffee:
Why? Isn't that what absentee ballot voting is for? In ND you have 40 days to vote absentee. And you can even fill out the application to vote absentee online, it gets mailed to an address of your choice and you can mail it back. There is even no postage due. The application takes about 5 minutes to fill out and the official paper copy about the same.

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:02 pm
by 89Hen
∞∞∞ wrote:As for felons, I meant all felons - included incarcerated ones.
See, and just when we maybe find some common ground, you have to move further to the extreme. :suspicious:

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:17 pm
by Ibanez
∞∞∞ wrote:
Ibanez wrote::shock: :shock: I like how the Brits have a short campaign season. Let's start there.

I agree with felons, if you've finished your sentence then you can vote.

I'm not sure how I feel about people non-citizens voting, like someone on a student visa.
I meant that we should give people an entire week to cast their ballot.

I can agree that non-resident aliens (like students) shouldn't be able to vote, but I think resident aliens working should have a voice in the government (and they did for most US history).

As for felons, I meant all felons - included incarcerated ones. And speaking of it, we should also work on making slavery unconstitutional. :coffee:
You do realize that true voter fraud, on a mass scale existed in the time frame you're referencing?
Also, we used to do a lot of things like eugenics and slavery that doesn't mean we should bring them back.


Currently incarcerated - no. They broke the social laws and that's a punishment. I'm not sure why you think a week is better than 1 day. 1 day seems to be working just fine. Are there cases of other elections spanning more than 1 day? We already have early voting and absentee ballots. If you can't take an hour or so out of your life in the month BEFORE an election, should we really continue to hold your hand for the days after?

We really have to stop catering to the lowest common denominators in our society.

Re: File under: No sh!t...

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:16 pm
by SDHornet
89Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:As for felons, I meant all felons - included incarcerated ones.
See, and just when we maybe find some common ground, you have to move further to the extreme. :suspicious:
It's the progtard way apparently. Have you not been paying attention to all the leftist candidates "out lefting" each other? :rofl:

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:23 pm
by CID1990
I just read the bill McConnell was talking about

This thread title might be more aptly named "holy sh!t"

Taxpayer funded subsidies for political donors and campaigns

Federal government matching political donations (!)

Election Day another paid holiday for federal workers a paid leave offering of up to 6 days to hang out at polls

Just what we need - a Washington controlled, taxpayer subsidized political donation Grand Central Station, and those oh so "essential" Federal workers lurking around polling places

MConnell was correct in calling this what it is - a political power grab by the Democrats. The civilian federal workforce is overwhelmingly Democrat. Ask yourselves what people like Nancy Pelosi would be saying if the GOP proferred this same bill but instead of extending this to civilian workers, they substituted military officers?

Complete horsesh!t... but let's focus on Ol Cocaine Mitch not wanting people to vote